How to Talk to Your Children About Artificial Intelligence (AI) with Dr. William T. Choctaw (Part 2)

1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:03,280 Dr William T. Choctaw: Just, just for fun, uh, and I said, uh, and, 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:04,970 and so I, I went to the chat bot. 3 00:00:04,970 --> 00:00:08,480 I said, tell me all the great things you've done in the last 12 months. 4 00:00:08,719 --> 00:00:11,440 What, what have you learned in the last 12 months? 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Uh, and so it says, well, uh, we've made advances in powering 6 00:00:16,849 --> 00:00:18,450 new drug discovery processes. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,180 Think about the, uh, pandemic, and think about vaccines, and think 8 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:26,680 about the issue of, well, how fast can you get that vaccine done? 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,250 It used to take months and years to do that. 10 00:00:29,449 --> 00:00:30,900 Doesn't take months and years now. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,450 Why? 12 00:00:31,529 --> 00:00:34,710 Because the pharmaceutical companies have artificial intelligence 13 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:36,910 equipment in their organization. 14 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:39,900 Uh, quantum computing that solves problems. 15 00:00:40,510 --> 00:00:42,420 Um, that classic computers cannot solve. 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,150 So what it's done is to take, it's taken those big smart computers 17 00:00:46,340 --> 00:00:47,870 and it's taken them up a notch. 18 00:00:47,979 --> 00:00:50,590 So whatever they were doing, this can do it faster. 19 00:00:51,810 --> 00:00:55,239 Uh, increased improvements in, in cleaning and surgery, and 20 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,290 we talked about that already. 21 00:00:57,749 --> 00:01:02,170 Um, the computers, the robots, particularly in surgery, are smaller, 22 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:04,239 uh, and can do the work faster. 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,060 Um, what kind of network do you have in your neighborhood? 24 00:01:08,380 --> 00:01:12,850 If you have a 5G network, you know, that's because of the, 25 00:01:12,850 --> 00:01:14,649 uh, artificial intelligence. 26 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:19,009 Because they want to push stuff out to the customer so you can watch those 27 00:01:19,049 --> 00:01:23,560 movies and games faster with fewer interruptions, et cetera, et cetera. 28 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:30,070 Um, and climate change mitigation is working overtime, uh, for some to help 29 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:32,160 to decrease the climate change problem. 30 00:01:32,765 --> 00:01:33,835 So, what are the risks? 31 00:01:33,835 --> 00:01:34,585 Very quickly. 32 00:01:34,765 --> 00:01:38,955 The risk is, uh, just like we always said about any computer, 33 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:41,145 garbage in, garbage out. 34 00:01:41,455 --> 00:01:44,365 Somebody has to put the information in the computer. 35 00:01:44,595 --> 00:01:46,244 Somebody has to give it the data. 36 00:01:46,455 --> 00:01:48,565 Somebody has to give it the proposition. 37 00:01:48,814 --> 00:01:50,744 Somebody has to give it the problem. 38 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:53,585 That somebody is a human, initially. 39 00:01:53,774 --> 00:01:56,475 So, who is that human or humans? 40 00:01:57,090 --> 00:01:58,850 What, what is their understanding? 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Uh, what, what are their proclivities? 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,710 Are they biased? 43 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:06,810 Are they all of a particular race or culture? 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,950 And so, is what they put into that computer skewed? 45 00:02:10,999 --> 00:02:15,680 And sometimes, um, unconsciously, you know, that means they're bad people. 46 00:02:15,999 --> 00:02:18,870 And so, these are some of the things that one has to be careful of. 47 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:25,340 Uh, with, with, um, information from, uh, the artificial intelligence vehicle. 48 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:29,300 Uh, and so you have to make, make sure that information makes sense. 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Another reason why you want to know what your children are watching, 50 00:02:32,859 --> 00:02:34,840 and what they're listening to, okay? 51 00:02:35,289 --> 00:02:35,989 Safety. 52 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:40,249 Um, you could imagine, just like there are good people in the world, 53 00:02:40,249 --> 00:02:41,370 there are bad people in the world. 54 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:44,110 And those bad people in the world are just as smart as some of 55 00:02:44,110 --> 00:02:45,200 those good people in the world. 56 00:02:45,410 --> 00:02:46,940 And they're working overtime. 57 00:02:47,230 --> 00:02:52,810 You see how they can use that information and technology to, uh, continue 58 00:02:52,820 --> 00:02:54,960 along their bad or negative course. 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,979 And so you want to be aware of that. 60 00:02:57,190 --> 00:03:00,330 And profiling and, and deception, sort of like bias. 61 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:06,040 That, um, uh, one, one of the chatbots said things that, um, uh, tell me 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,620 about the doctors in the country. 63 00:03:08,090 --> 00:03:11,280 And it says, well, the doctors are male and they do this and do that. 64 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:13,230 The reality is. 65 00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:19,690 More doctors graduated from medical school in 2024, female, not male, right? 66 00:03:19,870 --> 00:03:22,490 So that's a bias in the system. 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,259 No doubt put in when the data was put in, and maybe back then that was the case. 68 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:27,560 It's not the case now. 69 00:03:28,019 --> 00:03:30,500 And so those are some of the things you have to be concerned about. 70 00:03:30,709 --> 00:03:34,154 And the same thing could be racial bias and etc., etc., etc. 71 00:03:34,644 --> 00:03:35,354 Profiler. 72 00:03:35,634 --> 00:03:39,894 Well, if you are this height and, and look this way and this color, 73 00:03:40,114 --> 00:03:44,304 more likely than not, you're going to do X as compared to doing Y. 74 00:03:44,864 --> 00:03:45,344 Right? 75 00:03:45,534 --> 00:03:49,684 So the law enforcement said, well, I'm going to stop him before he does X. 76 00:03:49,964 --> 00:03:52,334 And so I'm, I'm, I'm protecting these other people. 77 00:03:52,975 --> 00:03:54,704 So again, you want to be careful of that. 78 00:03:55,495 --> 00:03:56,665 Knowledge is power. 79 00:03:56,855 --> 00:04:01,455 So if you're aware that that's a particular problem with this, this 80 00:04:01,455 --> 00:04:05,605 technology, then you can make sure that that doesn't cause a problem. 81 00:04:05,975 --> 00:04:08,904 And again, some of the things we talked about in health care, clinical 82 00:04:08,904 --> 00:04:13,204 decision support, helping us doctors to make the right decision about 83 00:04:13,264 --> 00:04:17,294 what to do with patients, literature searches, procedure searches. 84 00:04:19,769 --> 00:04:22,050 This is particularly for hospitals. 85 00:04:22,540 --> 00:04:27,810 Real quickly before we close, this gentleman, Jeffrey Hinton, he 86 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:30,520 was vice president of Google, um. 87 00:04:30,709 --> 00:04:35,179 And he resigned last year, and one of the reasons he resigned was, 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,600 and he's considered the god father of artificial intelligence Uh, 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,283 I may have mentioned him before. 90 00:04:40,283 --> 00:04:41,684 But he's at Sccree, ups. 91 00:04:42,224 --> 00:04:47,765 His fear and his worry, and he had to create AI, is that it's more 92 00:04:47,765 --> 00:04:49,555 intelligent than we are right now. 93 00:04:49,724 --> 00:04:52,754 Now, of course, the company said, no, no, no, no, we're, we're working on 94 00:04:52,754 --> 00:04:56,374 it, we're, we have it under control, there's nothing to worry about, but 95 00:04:56,374 --> 00:04:58,594 this guy helped invent it, and he quit. 96 00:04:59,239 --> 00:04:59,859 He quit. 97 00:05:00,189 --> 00:05:03,349 So I said, Hmm, I wonder why he quit. 98 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:09,959 What does he know that I don't know, since he created this, this technology. 99 00:05:10,369 --> 00:05:13,099 And so what I'm sure he didn't have to work anymore. 100 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:17,620 And so what he's doing is, I think he feels a little guilty. 101 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:21,710 And he's gone around trying to make it right, you know, and educate people. 102 00:05:23,559 --> 00:05:26,780 But he's saying that it's more intelligent than us. 103 00:05:27,234 --> 00:05:31,755 Right now that it will figure out ways to manipulate us that 104 00:05:31,755 --> 00:05:33,684 we cannot stop working on it. 105 00:05:34,195 --> 00:05:38,655 Um, and, uh, and that he wanted to be able to speak freely. 106 00:05:39,474 --> 00:05:43,354 Now, I don't know enough about it to do all these things, but I do know enough. 107 00:05:43,715 --> 00:05:48,795 To just try to be careful and again, go back to our original belief. 108 00:05:48,795 --> 00:05:49,875 Knowledge is power. 109 00:05:50,095 --> 00:05:51,025 Knowledge is power. 110 00:05:51,025 --> 00:05:52,625 I don't want something controlling me. 111 00:05:52,975 --> 00:05:57,145 I want to have enough knowledge and information so at least I can protect 112 00:05:57,145 --> 00:05:59,895 myself and those that I care about again. 113 00:05:59,895 --> 00:06:04,593 The same thing we're talking about in terms of limited memory and self aware. 114 00:06:04,593 --> 00:06:05,072 A. 115 00:06:05,072 --> 00:06:06,508 I real quickly. 116 00:06:06,508 --> 00:06:08,424 We talked about sentience. 117 00:06:08,705 --> 00:06:09,975 They're building a field. 118 00:06:10,415 --> 00:06:15,945 Um, let's go back and then you remember way back from the first podcast or the 119 00:06:15,945 --> 00:06:23,515 first, uh, um, um, presentation we made about this, uh, in terms of masterclass 120 00:06:23,815 --> 00:06:25,345 is our good friend, the amygdala. 121 00:06:26,234 --> 00:06:31,615 If we cut the brain in half, uh, that red area there is called the amygdala. 122 00:06:32,175 --> 00:06:35,735 Uh, and the amygdala is the emotion center of the brain. 123 00:06:36,085 --> 00:06:39,995 It's where the feelings come from, good feelings, bad feelings, right? 124 00:06:40,735 --> 00:06:47,365 What distinguishes us, in my opinion, from, um, uh, Copilot or 125 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:51,735 Bard or some of these others that they don't have amygdalas yet. 126 00:06:54,355 --> 00:06:54,725 Yet. 127 00:06:55,135 --> 00:06:56,664 Well, I should say that I know of. 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 I should qualify that, right? 129 00:07:00,490 --> 00:07:06,210 Because clearly, my belief is that once they get an amygdala or an amygdala 130 00:07:07,419 --> 00:07:13,880 type structure or function or that functionality, They can then feel. 131 00:07:14,130 --> 00:07:15,020 They can then feel. 132 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:17,990 They can be happy or they can be sad. 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,460 What do you do when you're happy? 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,529 What do you do when you're sad? 135 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:22,170 Right? 136 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,879 What, what, what do you do when you're running around 137 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,380 and everything is going well? 138 00:07:26,569 --> 00:07:28,160 What do you do when you're angry? 139 00:07:28,359 --> 00:07:30,179 Anger is an emotion. 140 00:07:30,419 --> 00:07:31,459 It's an emotion. 141 00:07:31,469 --> 00:07:33,400 Love is an emotion. 142 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Uh, and I think most of us humans would admit we don't 100 percent 143 00:07:39,310 --> 00:07:43,939 understand all these emotions, let alone control them 100 percent of 144 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,309 the time, right, if we choose to. 145 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:51,185 Um, think if you put that into this powerful entity, That's 146 00:07:51,185 --> 00:07:52,775 smarter than you, right? 147 00:07:52,784 --> 00:07:54,914 Cause you made it and you made it. 148 00:07:54,914 --> 00:07:56,474 So it would be smarter than you. 149 00:07:56,815 --> 00:08:02,564 And then you, you give it the ability to feel and experience emotion. 150 00:08:02,814 --> 00:08:03,774 I'll just stop there. 151 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:07,544 I'm sure you're going to, I'll let you marinate on that. 152 00:08:10,395 --> 00:08:15,065 I believe, and we're almost done, I believe it is important that parents 153 00:08:15,065 --> 00:08:19,055 don't have to be experts on computers, and I am certainly not suggesting that. 154 00:08:19,614 --> 00:08:23,414 I am suggesting, though, as a parent, that you at least be able to speak 155 00:08:23,414 --> 00:08:25,075 some of the language of computers. 156 00:08:25,404 --> 00:08:26,164 Basic stuff. 157 00:08:26,765 --> 00:08:27,495 Basic stuff. 158 00:08:27,765 --> 00:08:29,365 Why do you need to speak some of the language? 159 00:08:29,515 --> 00:08:31,304 So, I'll tell you what this is. 160 00:08:31,544 --> 00:08:32,534 No, no, no, don't do that. 161 00:08:32,664 --> 00:08:35,845 I mean, they would love it, because they want to turn those tables, right? 162 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:38,105 You remember what it was like to be a teenager? 163 00:08:38,305 --> 00:08:39,534 You know, you wanted to assert. 164 00:08:40,505 --> 00:08:42,745 That manhood or womanhood or whatever. 165 00:08:43,174 --> 00:08:46,175 Uh, but, but, but you want to speak the language. 166 00:08:46,565 --> 00:08:48,355 What, what, what do I mean by speaking language? 167 00:08:48,724 --> 00:08:50,775 You want to always be able to communicate. 168 00:08:51,295 --> 00:08:53,464 Remember I always talk about relationships, mutual 169 00:08:53,464 --> 00:08:54,875 respect, mutual trust. 170 00:08:55,305 --> 00:09:00,375 I believe the most important part of that trilogy is good communication. 171 00:09:00,775 --> 00:09:02,364 You can fuss and fight with your kids. 172 00:09:02,364 --> 00:09:02,714 Okay. 173 00:09:02,754 --> 00:09:03,334 That's fine. 174 00:09:03,749 --> 00:09:07,920 But you never, never, never, never, never want to lose communication with them. 175 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:10,840 You don't want them to stop talking to you, right? 176 00:09:11,390 --> 00:09:11,870 Why? 177 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,959 Because if they don't talk to you, you don't know what's going on. 178 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:17,720 And if you don't know what's going on, you can't help. 179 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:19,480 I don't care how right you are. 180 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,860 I don't care how, I think I told the story, I don't know, 181 00:09:22,890 --> 00:09:24,370 but I'll tell it real quick. 182 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:27,849 But when my sons, and they grew up in St. 183 00:09:27,849 --> 00:09:33,505 Stephen's, when my sons were teenagers, They must've been preteen and teenager. 184 00:09:33,815 --> 00:09:37,075 I had a thing about where you dress a certain way when you come to church. 185 00:09:37,455 --> 00:09:40,155 I was taught as God's house, you be respectful. 186 00:09:40,465 --> 00:09:42,175 You don't dress any way come to church. 187 00:09:42,875 --> 00:09:43,874 Just, just my thing. 188 00:09:44,155 --> 00:09:47,335 And so my, I had this thing about you should wear a tie. 189 00:09:47,734 --> 00:09:52,444 If you go to Sunday morning service, well, they thought that was silly. 190 00:09:53,964 --> 00:09:56,295 I said, why do I have to wear a tie? 191 00:09:56,645 --> 00:09:58,344 What, what, what difference does it make? 192 00:09:58,694 --> 00:09:59,794 And I went through my whole day. 193 00:09:59,834 --> 00:10:00,865 They still thought it was silly. 194 00:10:01,795 --> 00:10:04,575 So I said, you know, the ultimate Trump. 195 00:10:04,874 --> 00:10:07,104 I am your father, right? 196 00:10:07,995 --> 00:10:09,864 You will do it, you know, that whole thing. 197 00:10:09,865 --> 00:10:13,315 I learned a long time ago that that just doesn't work after a while. 198 00:10:13,515 --> 00:10:14,285 But, but, um. 199 00:10:14,855 --> 00:10:18,105 Thank God, uh, that God said, you know what? 200 00:10:18,405 --> 00:10:21,185 Really Choctaw, does it really matter? 201 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:25,225 I mean, seriously, but this is my, my conversation with the person in the 202 00:10:25,225 --> 00:10:28,780 mirror and, and I, and I came to the inclusion, it, it really doesn't matter 203 00:10:29,245 --> 00:10:32,905 that what, what's most important that they go to church, that that thing 204 00:10:32,905 --> 00:10:34,825 walk into the building, who cares? 205 00:10:35,185 --> 00:10:39,975 Continue that conversation with them, uh, so that they can tell me when 206 00:10:39,975 --> 00:10:42,204 they think I'm being silly, right? 207 00:10:42,324 --> 00:10:45,120 Because if they're afraid of me, they say, oh, no, I can't say that to dad. 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,400 I'll get. 209 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:50,859 Now, I don't know, so then I'm going to continue down this path being wrong, 210 00:10:51,209 --> 00:10:52,650 and I'm certainly not reaching them. 211 00:10:52,780 --> 00:10:53,400 What's my point? 212 00:10:53,449 --> 00:10:57,790 My point is, you always want to keep communication with your kids, and 213 00:10:57,849 --> 00:10:59,239 you don't have to always be right. 214 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:02,219 The other thing I learned from that very quickly is I went 215 00:11:02,219 --> 00:11:03,119 back and apologized to them. 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,409 I went back and said, you know what, you were right, and I was wrong. 217 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:11,999 I was way out in the field, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 218 00:11:12,159 --> 00:11:13,089 Why did I do that? 219 00:11:13,089 --> 00:11:14,634 Because I'm trying to teach them. 220 00:11:14,905 --> 00:11:16,725 that everybody makes mistakes. 221 00:11:17,265 --> 00:11:21,375 And when you make a mistake, the way you get over it, the way you grow, the way 222 00:11:21,375 --> 00:11:23,695 you learn from it, is you acknowledge it. 223 00:11:24,105 --> 00:11:24,865 I'm sorry. 224 00:11:24,865 --> 00:11:25,545 I screwed up. 225 00:11:25,575 --> 00:11:26,385 I shouldn't have done it. 226 00:11:26,395 --> 00:11:27,414 Please forgive me. 227 00:11:27,754 --> 00:11:28,524 Blah, blah, blah. 228 00:11:28,525 --> 00:11:30,565 God is not finished with me yet. 229 00:11:30,995 --> 00:11:34,475 Whatever, whatever you want to say, but acknowledge it and acknowledge 230 00:11:34,475 --> 00:11:38,995 it to the person, particularly children, particularly children, that 231 00:11:38,995 --> 00:11:40,155 you're having this conversation with. 232 00:11:40,555 --> 00:11:45,735 You can find information about artificial intelligence anywhere on, uh, on, online. 233 00:11:46,065 --> 00:11:50,365 I would encourage you to go to various universes, Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Yale, 234 00:11:50,385 --> 00:11:55,725 Stanford, UCLA, USC, wherever you're comfortable, and just put in artificial 235 00:11:55,725 --> 00:11:59,225 intelligence and children, and you'll, you'll get a whole host of information. 236 00:12:00,610 --> 00:12:03,560 In summary, artificial intelligence is not our future. 237 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:04,450 It is our present. 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,150 It is here now. 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,890 I would, I would argue it's been here for a while. 240 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:13,709 The most important part about the learning is really, um, uh, the machine 241 00:12:13,709 --> 00:12:18,580 learning, uh, which is the basic, and then it goes all the way up to, 242 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:21,380 um, the machine being able to feel. 243 00:12:21,570 --> 00:12:23,620 Uh, the chatbots are very, very nice. 244 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:27,540 Uh, they're, they're put in place to be, uh, evaluated and 245 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:28,960 to be attracted to children. 246 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:32,859 But as parents, it's our job to protect our children from everything. 247 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:36,530 You know, particularly those things that are not in their best interest. 248 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:40,819 Robots and, and certain types of AI have been used for years, uh, 249 00:12:40,829 --> 00:12:45,749 but it's important to recognize that these artificial intelligence 250 00:12:45,939 --> 00:12:51,874 types of material and, and, and representatives have downsides. 251 00:12:52,084 --> 00:12:55,594 And we need to be aware of those downsides because then and only 252 00:12:55,594 --> 00:12:57,484 then can we protect our children. 253 00:12:57,784 --> 00:12:59,724 Real quickly, my basic principles. 254 00:12:59,734 --> 00:13:01,984 I always like to, um, mention this. 255 00:13:02,185 --> 00:13:03,974 God is in charge of my life. 256 00:13:04,124 --> 00:13:04,974 It has been. 257 00:13:05,305 --> 00:13:09,584 Um, and, uh, he directs where I go and what I do. 258 00:13:10,115 --> 00:13:12,545 Um, I, I don't have bad days. 259 00:13:12,715 --> 00:13:14,755 I figured out that my days are good or bad. 260 00:13:15,015 --> 00:13:19,015 When I said they were, and so I don't, I no longer say they are bad. 261 00:13:20,145 --> 00:13:22,795 Don't sweat the small stuff and most stuff is small. 262 00:13:23,275 --> 00:13:24,535 Uh, I've learned that. 263 00:13:24,565 --> 00:13:28,255 And so I don't worry about little things anymore as much as I used to. 264 00:13:28,634 --> 00:13:30,455 Forgiveness is therapy. 265 00:13:30,714 --> 00:13:33,765 So when people do or say things to you that you feel. 266 00:13:34,134 --> 00:13:38,135 Um, uh, is, is not, uh, appropriate. 267 00:13:38,345 --> 00:13:39,064 Forgive them. 268 00:13:39,704 --> 00:13:40,395 Forgive them. 269 00:13:40,764 --> 00:13:43,814 Don't try to figure it out, don't look at the facts, just forgive them. 270 00:13:43,994 --> 00:13:50,844 Um, uh, and finally, um, relationships, everything is a relationship. 271 00:13:51,290 --> 00:13:54,320 Based on mutual respect, mutual trust, good communication. 272 00:13:54,839 --> 00:13:58,189 Um, if you have those three things, you have a good relationship. 273 00:13:58,609 --> 00:14:00,999 If you do not, then you have work to do. 274 00:14:01,219 --> 00:14:02,339 Are there any questions? 275 00:14:02,499 --> 00:14:04,169 Anybody online with any questions? 276 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:05,639 Hi, Dr. 277 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:05,729 Tucker. 278 00:14:06,449 --> 00:14:08,389 Um, I had a question. 279 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:11,589 I don't know if it was a year or two ago. 280 00:14:11,589 --> 00:14:17,584 There was, um, I think it was New York, or Somewhere and there was a stadium 281 00:14:18,055 --> 00:14:22,755 and there was a particular law firm representing like a group And they had 282 00:14:22,765 --> 00:14:26,334 to do they had like face recognition and they didn't let those people 283 00:14:26,395 --> 00:14:29,955 come into the stadium Is there any? 284 00:14:30,555 --> 00:14:34,084 Like is the regulation against that like or is it just each 285 00:14:34,085 --> 00:14:35,505 company can do what they want? 286 00:14:35,505 --> 00:14:39,275 And if they don't like how you voted or how you did something they can exclude 287 00:14:39,275 --> 00:14:43,105 you from a venue even though you paid For the tickets and you know, I think 288 00:14:43,105 --> 00:14:46,115 it was like a basketball stadium or some the basketball game or something 289 00:14:46,665 --> 00:14:50,375 Yes, it was, and that's an excellent question, because, yeah, and your 290 00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:54,685 question goes to, well, what kind of regulation is protecting us, the public? 291 00:14:55,205 --> 00:14:58,395 From all of these things that are happening, and the reality is the 292 00:14:58,395 --> 00:15:03,855 regulation is not fast enough, and it's not smart enough, because you're right, 293 00:15:04,005 --> 00:15:08,685 uh, law enforcement obviously is trying to be ahead of the game, and if they 294 00:15:08,685 --> 00:15:13,255 can put spatial recognition and identify you at a stadium among thousands of 295 00:15:13,265 --> 00:15:18,475 people, uh, you really have your rights being more limited than they should be. 296 00:15:18,715 --> 00:15:23,925 The reality is that our Congress, most of them are, I don't know, 297 00:15:24,229 --> 00:15:28,939 Septuagenarians or, or whatever, and they don't even understand 298 00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:31,150 the, the artificial intelligence. 299 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:32,270 So it's a problem. 300 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,829 They're trying to catch up. 301 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:38,589 They're using consultants and some of the people with AI, uh, with the 302 00:15:38,590 --> 00:15:40,680 Microsoft and Google are trying to help. 303 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:43,629 But it's not there yet, to be honest with you. 304 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:47,689 And so right now, we do not have good regulation to 305 00:15:47,689 --> 00:15:49,680 protect the public right now. 306 00:15:50,515 --> 00:15:50,895 Thank you. 307 00:15:50,905 --> 00:15:51,505 Good question. 308 00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:52,935 Any other questions? 309 00:15:53,185 --> 00:15:53,585 Yes, sir. 310 00:16:00,925 --> 00:16:02,904 Some of what, uh, Faye was asking. 311 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,415 The government is slow. 312 00:16:05,645 --> 00:16:10,535 Um, you know, if you watch CNN or anything, you know, the process of getting 313 00:16:10,535 --> 00:16:14,665 things done is very deliberate, and it goes back and forth and back and forth. 314 00:16:14,844 --> 00:16:17,924 And as we mentioned, this artificial intelligence stuff 315 00:16:17,934 --> 00:16:19,864 moves in seconds and minutes. 316 00:16:20,244 --> 00:16:22,775 And so the government is already at a disadvantage. 317 00:16:23,319 --> 00:16:28,020 It is trying to do some of those things, but it is still very, very 318 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:32,320 slow, and chances are, even though it may do some things, it may not, 319 00:16:32,350 --> 00:16:33,910 it may not really do it fast enough. 320 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:37,620 Um, I think that it's already at the amygdala. 321 00:16:38,115 --> 00:16:40,115 But that's just me, to be honest with. 322 00:16:40,425 --> 00:16:40,815 Yes, ma'am. 323 00:16:43,285 --> 00:16:46,314 Way faster than regulation. 324 00:16:46,584 --> 00:16:46,805 Yeah. 325 00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:52,855 So by the time the government catches up with what they're doing right now, the 326 00:16:52,855 --> 00:16:56,655 scientists have evolved 10, 15 years. 327 00:16:56,665 --> 00:17:01,820 So all we have to do is then to Be careful. 328 00:17:02,270 --> 00:17:06,630 Well, I think, I think the government is, it will do some things and they'll, 329 00:17:06,670 --> 00:17:08,280 they'll try to make it retroactive. 330 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,119 And so I don't want it to sound like that nothing is done, but to your point, 331 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:16,200 scientists have already started before the government even knew about the problem. 332 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:19,129 Uh, most of the times, then when the government finds out about it, 333 00:17:19,130 --> 00:17:20,899 it has to understand the problem. 334 00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:24,279 Um, and then after it understands the problem is then got to 335 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:26,660 agree of what the remedy is. 336 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,610 And each one of those three stages, Takes months, sometimes months and 337 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:35,460 years, whereas, uh, this stuff is just going, you know, in seconds again. 338 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:39,590 Uh, so I think the government will do some things, but it probably will 339 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:44,350 not be 100 percent adequate, which is why conversations like the ones we're 340 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,009 having this morning are so important. 341 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:50,889 We have to do it ourselves and, and not rely on the government 100%. 342 00:17:51,090 --> 00:17:54,670 Yeah, the government may help, but we, we've got to take care of our own. 343 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,120 Uh, and again, knowledge is power. 344 00:17:59,195 --> 00:18:05,855 When you're talking about AI, I remember watching the, um, I think 345 00:18:05,855 --> 00:18:12,684 it was Chicago police, um, on TV and it had show, it was AI that they 346 00:18:12,685 --> 00:18:18,414 had used the system to determine whether someone is guilty or innocent. 347 00:18:19,314 --> 00:18:26,284 And they made a mistake in regards about people of color and it was never tested. 348 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,990 On people of color. 349 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:34,680 It was tested on the other race and they accused as they went with AI 350 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:40,920 and they accused a person of being guilty of something and it was facial 351 00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:47,100 acknowledge on it and the person was not guilty and end up dying. 352 00:18:47,409 --> 00:18:51,760 And this, this is one of the problems with bias, with bias. 353 00:18:52,304 --> 00:18:58,425 If, if I, if I look at, at, at Jesse, and he's wearing black shoes, and I 354 00:18:58,425 --> 00:19:03,165 say, all people who wear black shoes are, and you can fill in the blank, 355 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,514 whatever you want to fill in, that, that's the way I view people with black 356 00:19:06,515 --> 00:19:11,844 shoes, so when I see somebody with black shoes, I said, uh huh, I know. 357 00:19:12,195 --> 00:19:13,764 All because I have that belief system. 358 00:19:13,764 --> 00:19:17,425 Remember we talked about our beliefs affects how we think and how we think 359 00:19:17,435 --> 00:19:22,125 affects how We feel and how we feel affects how we act if I have that belief 360 00:19:22,125 --> 00:19:25,904 system that if you wear black shoes You more likely than not are going 361 00:19:25,904 --> 00:19:30,224 to steal somebody's purse or whatever However, you want to put it then it 362 00:19:30,224 --> 00:19:34,375 is not that uncommon that i'm going to create stuff to that point in healthcare 363 00:19:34,405 --> 00:19:40,270 And i've talked about this before Uh, we treated a heart attack A certain, 364 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,889 we treated women with heart attack the way, same way we treated with men. 365 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,230 And that because it was based on data that was biased against women. 366 00:19:49,819 --> 00:19:52,199 Because the information that we used to come up with those 367 00:19:52,199 --> 00:19:53,610 ideas didn't include women. 368 00:19:54,050 --> 00:19:56,979 The same thing is true with, with, with different racial. 369 00:19:56,999 --> 00:19:58,530 They didn't include African Americans. 370 00:19:58,790 --> 00:20:01,249 They were, they only included Caucasians. 371 00:20:01,699 --> 00:20:04,009 And, and so again, garbage in, garbage out. 372 00:20:04,629 --> 00:20:09,000 Uh, and, and that, that's one of the concerns, uh, but at least if you're aware 373 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,220 of it, then you don't accept everything just because they say it is, uh, I am, and 374 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:18,509 I, I mentioned this in sense of it, I, I won't, I'm really skeptical about numbers, 375 00:20:19,209 --> 00:20:23,810 you give me a number, you know, I'm going to send, so where'd you get that number? 376 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,170 And how did, how did they get it? 377 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:26,710 Whatever. 378 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:31,770 Because many times numbers and pseudoscience or fake science 379 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:33,870 are used to influence people. 380 00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:35,649 Because then it stops debate. 381 00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:38,279 You don't question, well, you know, they said that, that the 382 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,720 statistics say blah, blah, blah. 383 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,139 Well, what's statistics? 384 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,860 Who put those statistics together? 385 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:43,450 Blah, blah, blah. 386 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,170 So my, my suggestion is be a little skeptical about everything. 387 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:51,050 You know, that doesn't mean you're distrustful, but ask questions. 388 00:20:51,470 --> 00:20:52,250 Ask questions. 389 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:57,040 I, and I think our government will help us, but I, I, I believe it won't 390 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,360 be fastened and that we're going to have to supplement that protection by 391 00:21:02,370 --> 00:21:04,230 having knowledge and power ourselves. 392 00:21:04,879 --> 00:21:10,659 Doc, let me, let me say this without jeopardizing myself as much as I 393 00:21:10,659 --> 00:21:13,630 possibly can, uh, incident did happen. 394 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,830 What we're doing, what we're trying to do was put in the dump starts in, 395 00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:23,700 and I won't go into that detail, to, uh, have the machine to, to adhere to 396 00:21:23,769 --> 00:21:25,530 our, uh, our, uh, our, uh, Okay, okay. 397 00:21:25,530 --> 00:21:29,220 That's what I'm saying about it is the machine exceeds, like 398 00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:30,350 it thinks faster than we do. 399 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:31,300 Yes, it does. 400 00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:35,430 So it exceeded the parameters that we were trying to put in for it. 401 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:36,110 Yes. 402 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:37,399 They're still working on it. 403 00:21:37,439 --> 00:21:39,320 Yes, I understand. 404 00:21:39,419 --> 00:21:41,240 Uh, but that's as much as I can say about it. 405 00:21:41,269 --> 00:21:42,699 No, I, I, I understand. 406 00:21:42,699 --> 00:21:43,369 I understand exactly. 407 00:21:43,749 --> 00:21:45,609 And my point is that. 408 00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:50,149 Since, since we humans are catching up, you know, and, and we, we didn't 409 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:51,639 know how this stuff's going to happen. 410 00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:55,189 So, so we have the first thing is being aware of the problem. 411 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,749 Now we can come up with ways to mitigate that. 412 00:21:57,860 --> 00:22:01,909 You know, we could modify the machines, change the data, do different things. 413 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:03,590 Whatever that works. 414 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:09,370 But, but we need to be aware that it's not 100%, 100%, um, and, and, 415 00:22:09,370 --> 00:22:12,899 and that's just the knowledge and the gift that God has given us. 416 00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:13,459 Yeah. 417 00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:14,000 Right. 418 00:22:14,110 --> 00:22:16,040 That, that God expects us. 419 00:22:16,524 --> 00:22:20,865 To use the minds that he's given us and the way he's blessed us and said 420 00:22:21,095 --> 00:22:25,955 give me more information I'm not quite there yet, and we can do that in love. 421 00:22:25,955 --> 00:22:28,355 It doesn't have to be a confrontational thing or a mean 422 00:22:28,365 --> 00:22:30,714 thing Uh, but that's how we grow. 423 00:22:30,844 --> 00:22:35,784 That's how we all grow the way I can understand why the gentleman resigned 424 00:22:35,785 --> 00:22:41,525 I can understand so can I so can I because if i'm in a situation where 425 00:22:41,525 --> 00:22:47,940 I fundamentally disagree With what's going on, and I cannot change it, or 426 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:50,450 I feel like I'm not being listened to. 427 00:22:51,145 --> 00:22:53,705 I will, I will move to a different, different area. 428 00:22:53,995 --> 00:22:55,095 I, I will walk away. 429 00:22:55,804 --> 00:22:56,094 Yeah. 430 00:22:56,324 --> 00:23:01,835 Um, uh, and, and I think that that's okay, but, but we, we have to stay in power. 431 00:23:01,965 --> 00:23:02,825 That's what I'm trying to say. 432 00:23:03,064 --> 00:23:04,195 We don't want to be limits. 433 00:23:04,205 --> 00:23:07,035 We don't want to be led, you know, this way, that way, that way. 434 00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:08,954 Any other questions? 435 00:23:09,185 --> 00:23:10,525 I just wanted to make a comment. 436 00:23:10,625 --> 00:23:15,475 Um, in my experience with it, I was at my beautician and she's like, Oh, 437 00:23:15,505 --> 00:23:18,385 I can show you what you look like, but like a different hairstyle. 438 00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,774 She a picture of you. 439 00:23:20,215 --> 00:23:25,164 So she took a picture on her phone and then it made all of these images with 440 00:23:25,164 --> 00:23:28,244 my face and like put me in the body. 441 00:23:28,244 --> 00:23:29,195 So I'm going to show you. 442 00:23:29,195 --> 00:23:31,945 So this one of them, so I'm not sure if you can see it. 443 00:23:31,945 --> 00:23:32,724 So this is what. 444 00:23:33,225 --> 00:23:38,294 She took my face and that's the image that came out, but she could like post 445 00:23:38,294 --> 00:23:40,254 that someplace and say that was face. 446 00:23:40,254 --> 00:23:41,684 She was, you know what I mean. 447 00:23:41,684 --> 00:23:44,194 So that kind of scared me because it was different. 448 00:23:44,344 --> 00:23:47,324 I mean, there's other hairstyles that it showed and, you know, different 449 00:23:47,524 --> 00:23:53,304 clothes and it was like instant that she made this, you know, right. 450 00:23:55,035 --> 00:23:58,305 Well, you know, that battle is being fought right now in places like 451 00:23:58,305 --> 00:24:02,165 Hollywood and all the people who are very artistic, who use, because 452 00:24:02,165 --> 00:24:03,454 that's, I didn't even go into that. 453 00:24:03,654 --> 00:24:09,154 That's a whole different area in terms of the arts, you know, pictures and images, 454 00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:11,964 which are even more difficult to control. 455 00:24:12,174 --> 00:24:13,605 But that's clearly a part of it. 456 00:24:14,165 --> 00:24:18,514 You know, because someone could hijack your, your image, you know, 457 00:24:18,514 --> 00:24:21,165 and say, is this the person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I say, 458 00:24:21,165 --> 00:24:24,235 yeah, that's her, that's her, and you don't know anything about that. 459 00:24:24,435 --> 00:24:26,665 And these are some of the things that we, we have to correct 460 00:24:26,905 --> 00:24:28,595 and just, just to be aware of. 461 00:24:28,954 --> 00:24:30,805 Yeah, but that, that is definitely a problem. 462 00:24:31,145 --> 00:24:34,114 And it's more difficult, I think, to control than the words. 463 00:24:34,865 --> 00:24:39,795 Yeah, yeah, because I just, I didn't know what I thought it was going to show, 464 00:24:40,375 --> 00:24:42,185 but I was just like, oh my goodness. 465 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:44,315 Yeah, yeah. 466 00:24:44,554 --> 00:24:48,005 And probably the safest thing is to just say, no, thank you. 467 00:24:48,035 --> 00:24:48,935 No, that's okay. 468 00:24:49,184 --> 00:24:53,034 I, I, it's great young people because they take pictures all the time and selfies and 469 00:24:53,065 --> 00:24:54,915 this, they don't think anything about it. 470 00:24:55,145 --> 00:24:59,025 But that, that's where it's probably just to slow it down a bit if possible. 471 00:24:59,215 --> 00:25:00,025 No, good, good point. 472 00:25:00,970 --> 00:25:04,540 Sure, sure, you don't even think about it, because it's done so fast 473 00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:05,860 and you don't want to be the bad guy. 474 00:25:07,124 --> 00:25:12,614 Right, right, right, because if they have no picture. 475 00:25:12,704 --> 00:25:13,614 Yeah, exactly. 476 00:25:13,954 --> 00:25:14,485 Exactly. 477 00:25:14,674 --> 00:25:15,274 Good point. 478 00:25:15,485 --> 00:25:17,704 Well, it's happening right now in Hollywood. 479 00:25:18,214 --> 00:25:25,684 Um, the, the artist and, and the, uh, the movie stars are realizing that 480 00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:33,584 out there, someone is posting pictures of them that created, uh, with AI. 481 00:25:33,584 --> 00:25:35,455 It's not a real picture, but it is. 482 00:25:35,794 --> 00:25:36,995 But it looks so real. 483 00:25:36,995 --> 00:25:37,294 Right. 484 00:25:37,394 --> 00:25:38,284 And you can't tell. 485 00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:42,655 Like you say, they can, they can place that image wherever, 486 00:25:43,104 --> 00:25:45,114 either to damage or to benefit us. 487 00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:48,495 So we have to be careful that the risk is out there already. 488 00:25:48,745 --> 00:25:49,054 Right. 489 00:25:49,274 --> 00:25:49,964 And, and think about it. 490 00:25:49,964 --> 00:25:50,725 If you're an artist. 491 00:25:51,385 --> 00:25:56,035 And your livelihood is based on your creativity, and someone steals your 492 00:25:56,035 --> 00:25:58,045 creativity and then embellishes it. 493 00:25:58,345 --> 00:26:01,804 They can put you out of business, or your career is over. 494 00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:04,705 Because the public doesn't know, you know. 495 00:26:04,885 --> 00:26:07,475 And these are battles that are being fought right now. 496 00:26:07,904 --> 00:26:10,685 And they haven't been resolved yet, but they're being fought. 497 00:26:16,255 --> 00:26:17,825 Right, while they were demonstrated. 498 00:26:18,555 --> 00:26:19,325 Yeah, yeah. 499 00:26:22,705 --> 00:26:26,465 They can use their images and put them in movies without even having them there. 500 00:26:26,770 --> 00:26:30,679 And we can tell the difference and they do that to some extent, but they put 501 00:26:30,679 --> 00:26:34,909 some of the movies and make them look younger, you know, and you said, no, 502 00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:39,749 that, that person that's old as I am, how can they look like, how would they 503 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,500 look that way, you know, all of this is happening before I was very serious. 504 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:45,129 Right. 505 00:26:45,159 --> 00:26:46,199 And they don't have to get paid for it. 506 00:26:46,449 --> 00:26:49,929 And that's what I mean, that the company can just kick them out and says, no, no, 507 00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:55,120 no, we're going to go with the avatar, you know, your avatar, we don't need you. 508 00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:56,630 We just use your avatar. 509 00:26:57,215 --> 00:26:57,735 Exactly. 510 00:26:58,145 --> 00:27:00,945 You know, uh, just a word about the profiling. 511 00:27:01,515 --> 00:27:02,425 Aspect of it. 512 00:27:02,515 --> 00:27:02,895 Mm hmm. 513 00:27:03,225 --> 00:27:08,525 Uh, there was a movie called the minority report Okay, it does that 514 00:27:08,565 --> 00:27:13,045 if you if you haven't watched that that And I think it's like I don't 515 00:27:13,045 --> 00:27:14,765 know seven eight ten years ago. 516 00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:20,801 That was with tom cruise uh, believe either him or or matt damon or Right. 517 00:27:20,801 --> 00:27:24,235 And it was one of those futuristic movies. 518 00:27:24,245 --> 00:27:29,655 Yes, and they would, it would arrest people just on based on the information. 519 00:27:29,694 --> 00:27:30,134 Right. 520 00:27:30,445 --> 00:27:32,665 You know, five years from now, you're going to do this. 521 00:27:32,675 --> 00:27:33,424 So, right, right. 522 00:27:33,425 --> 00:27:34,915 So they would arrest you ahead of time. 523 00:27:35,935 --> 00:27:38,985 And then the problem is because if you get in the computer, then you can screw 524 00:27:38,985 --> 00:27:41,605 it up and make people get arrested who. 525 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,850 Shouldn't get arrested. 526 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,490 I think that was part of the whole plot. 527 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Yeah. 528 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:46,270 Yeah. 529 00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:47,220 Right. 530 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:51,600 And, and again, I, you know, I, this is my opinion and I'll stop with it. 531 00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:56,949 I think, you know, God sets up things a certain way for a reason. 532 00:27:57,420 --> 00:28:00,869 Now we, we humans try to understand it and I'm a scientist and I try 533 00:28:00,869 --> 00:28:05,610 to understand it, but at the end of the day, you know, we may not 534 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,190 understand it a hundred percent. 535 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,700 Um, and a lot of times when we try to understand it so much, we screw it up. 536 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,110 We screw it up. 537 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:15,900 Uh, but, but this is where we are now. 538 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,280 This is where we are now. 539 00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:20,170 And I think all of us, Christians and everybody else, 540 00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:21,759 we need to be knowledgeable. 541 00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:23,219 We need to be knowledgeable. 542 00:28:23,219 --> 00:28:24,160 We need to study. 543 00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:25,110 We need to read. 544 00:28:25,439 --> 00:28:26,589 We need to understand. 545 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:32,400 We need to teach, educate, et cetera, so we can lead in a proper, a proper way. 546 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,560 Any other slides? 547 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:34,900 I mean, any other questions? 548 00:28:35,625 --> 00:28:38,064 I know it's harsh, indeed. 549 00:28:40,045 --> 00:28:40,525 Yes, sir. 550 00:28:41,014 --> 00:28:43,414 Pastor Jose Rivas: Not a question, but I think it would be good to 551 00:28:43,424 --> 00:28:46,344 bring this topic, uh, into church. 552 00:28:47,635 --> 00:28:53,504 So, because, I mean, once, uh, I have to tell Siri to shut up 553 00:28:53,504 --> 00:28:53,804 Dr William T. Choctaw: here. 554 00:28:53,825 --> 00:28:56,874 Ha ha. 555 00:28:57,534 --> 00:28:58,774 So your phone is going off. 556 00:28:58,814 --> 00:28:59,324 I was like, yeah. 557 00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:02,495 They're just watching you speak, man. 558 00:29:02,495 --> 00:29:03,994 Yeah, 559 00:29:05,675 --> 00:29:07,754 Pastor Jose Rivas: because of the, you know how the end times 560 00:29:07,754 --> 00:29:09,175 are, I mean, are coming in. 561 00:29:09,475 --> 00:29:13,604 And who knows, this might be babble hour, or babble problem. 562 00:29:13,804 --> 00:29:18,694 This thing, you know, bringing to a point so we can be recognized in such 563 00:29:18,694 --> 00:29:20,404 a way that it's our own distraction. 564 00:29:20,814 --> 00:29:22,124 I mean, that's going to the limit. 565 00:29:22,134 --> 00:29:27,410 But what I'm saying is it's important for us to know to So how to teach in the 566 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:31,980 church, because we can go to the fanatic side or the unrealistic side, but we 567 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:38,140 have to be knowledgeable on that too, because it will, it will involve us. 568 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,769 And we are involved already. 569 00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:43,109 I mean, it's either with knowledge or without it. 570 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,939 Dr William T. Choctaw: This thing, you know, pastors, I 571 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,229 think that's an excellent point. 572 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,659 I, I, I, I, and this is just me now. 573 00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:56,390 I, I think as a Christian, the way I evangelize, Um, is I, again, I think you 574 00:29:56,390 --> 00:30:01,490 go where people are, you know, and if we're concerned about losing people, ask 575 00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:03,130 yourself, well, why is that happening? 576 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:06,130 And I'm going to submit it's not always their fault. 577 00:30:06,479 --> 00:30:10,860 Maybe, just maybe, we Christians can do a little better. 578 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:16,310 Maybe, to your point, we can reach out to them and say, you know what, we're 579 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:17,780 going to have a discussion about AI. 580 00:30:18,475 --> 00:30:22,945 Because we recognize blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that maybe 581 00:30:23,205 --> 00:30:26,045 that, that people say, well, you know, I'm going to start going to that church 582 00:30:26,045 --> 00:30:29,444 because I, I've been worried about this stuff and, or whether it's don't 583 00:30:29,445 --> 00:30:35,164 make a mess or whatever, that the more relevant we are to their life allows 584 00:30:35,164 --> 00:30:39,015 them to maybe to pay more attention to what we want to communicate to them. 585 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,500 But, but if they don't believe that we're relevant to their life, they, 586 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:46,850 they may say, well, you know, I've got so much to do over here, I, I, 587 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:48,410 I'm sorry, but thank you very much. 588 00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:50,650 And so, to your point, I, I agree with you. 589 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,060 I think the more we can do, uh, and hence, one of the reasons 590 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:57,990 for these masterclasses, uh, is to say, this is real world. 591 00:30:58,210 --> 00:30:59,180 We understand that. 592 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:00,190 We all live in it. 593 00:31:00,210 --> 00:31:02,170 This is how we get through it. 594 00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:05,110 How can we help you to get through it, type thing. 595 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:09,000 Um, and that that may be one of the best ways to evangelize. 596 00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:14,500 Other than standing up high and speaking down low, uh, to folks about what they 597 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,100 should and should not do, just my opinion. 598 00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:21,220 Any other questions, comments, pastor Vis, would you close us 599 00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:22,420 with the word of prayer, please? 600 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,110 Pastor Jose Rivas: Yeah, heaven. 601 00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:27,640 Father, we thank you for this day, Lord God in the word on me, 29 29. 602 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,500 It says that the things hidden belongs to you and the one 603 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,780 that reveals our for ourself. 604 00:31:35,665 --> 00:31:36,860 And Father, we thank you. 605 00:31:37,085 --> 00:31:39,225 For even science belongs to you. 606 00:31:39,405 --> 00:31:43,725 You are the all knowledge, omniscient God whom we serve. 607 00:31:44,585 --> 00:31:47,105 Therefore, Lord God, we thank you for this opportunity. 608 00:31:47,285 --> 00:31:48,405 Thank you for Dr. 609 00:31:48,445 --> 00:31:51,604 Chao Tao and the group, Lord God, that make this possible. 610 00:31:53,255 --> 00:31:58,505 Bring us that information so we can be better prepared for Whatever you 611 00:31:58,505 --> 00:32:05,435 have us to do today and in the near future, and in the future way beyond. 612 00:32:05,675 --> 00:32:11,235 Let us be the light of this world and help us be the salt, your precious name. 613 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,725 We ask, and we thank you for everything. 614 00:32:13,995 --> 00:32:14,535 Amen. 615 00:32:14,805 --> 00:32:15,165 Amen. 616 00:32:15,170 --> 00:32:15,450 Dr William T. Choctaw: Amen. 617 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:15,730 Amen. 618 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,090 Amen. 619 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:16,850 Amen. 620 00:32:17,145 --> 00:32:17,505 Thank you. 621 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,890 Bye-Bye bye. 622 00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:28,090 Uhhuh.