The Inspiring Odyssey of a Gen Z Leader through a Pandemic Landscape

1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,404 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 2 00:00:02,504 --> 00:00:08,064 podcast with Dr William Chokta, MDJD. Our mission is to empower 3 00:00:08,125 --> 00:00:11,897 you with the knowledge and the tools you need to thrive in all 4 00:00:12,099 --> 00:00:16,184 aspects of your life. Join us now as we discuss everything 5 00:00:16,265 --> 00:00:19,823 from nutrition and exercise to money management and personal 6 00:00:19,842 --> 00:00:24,733 growth. Dr Chokta will provide insightful advice on how to 7 00:00:24,774 --> 00:00:28,064 improve your physical and financial health, as well as 8 00:00:28,103 --> 00:00:31,460 your emotional and mental well-being. Whether you're 9 00:00:31,481 --> 00:00:35,915 looking to boost your energy levels, unlock financial freedom 10 00:00:35,915 --> 00:00:40,228 or cultivate a more positive mindset, we've got you covered. 11 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:45,909 Get ready to become the best version of yourself? So let's 12 00:00:45,951 --> 00:00:50,329 get started. Here's Dr William Chokta, MDJD. 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,045 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Healthy, wealthy and Wise 14 00:00:54,067 --> 00:00:58,801 podcast. I'm delighted to have you with us today, and today we 15 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:03,847 have a very unique topic. We're going to talk about leadership, 16 00:01:04,268 --> 00:01:06,379 and we're going to talk about a number of issues, but we're 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,141 going to talk about it from a unique perspective. We're going 18 00:01:10,161 --> 00:01:13,929 to interview a very outstanding and dynamic young man by the 19 00:01:13,968 --> 00:01:19,906 name of Vincent. Vincent is 17 years old and he's a member of 20 00:01:19,965 --> 00:01:25,513 that Gen Z group that we hear so much about. I'm the favorite of 21 00:01:25,513 --> 00:01:29,987 Vincent. I'm the extreme, but one of the things I have learned 22 00:01:29,987 --> 00:01:34,760 is that the Gen Z individuals have a unique perspective on 23 00:01:34,820 --> 00:01:39,734 life, and not only is their perspective on life unique, we 24 00:01:39,775 --> 00:01:43,245 can all benefit just from talking to each other and 25 00:01:43,305 --> 00:01:50,290 exchanging ideas. So this is the thrill, the surprise, the gem 26 00:01:50,409 --> 00:01:54,447 that we have for you today. As always, I like to start off with 27 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:57,587 my beliefs. I believe that life is about being of service to 28 00:01:57,667 --> 00:02:01,701 other people. I believe knowledge is power. I believe 29 00:02:01,781 --> 00:02:06,325 leaders can change the world. This is part of our masterclass 30 00:02:06,364 --> 00:02:10,206 series, these podcasts, and basically it has to do with 31 00:02:10,266 --> 00:02:14,186 healthcare, it has to do with education and has to do with 32 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:19,205 spirituality. One of the areas that we're going to dev into is 33 00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:25,385 the education area and how that has impacted us individually and 34 00:02:25,385 --> 00:02:29,286 indirectly. And so we're going to talk about education from the 35 00:02:29,286 --> 00:02:33,302 perspective of our interviewee today, vincent, and have him 36 00:02:33,342 --> 00:02:37,092 just sort of bring us up today with what's going on and how 37 00:02:37,151 --> 00:02:40,986 things have developed in his life. He's at a very unique 38 00:02:41,087 --> 00:02:43,679 flexion point in his life and we're going to have him talk 39 00:02:43,699 --> 00:02:48,008 about that and how he got there, what he's learned and what he's 40 00:02:48,008 --> 00:02:52,930 doing to move on. As always, we'd like to give you an outline 41 00:02:52,930 --> 00:02:55,801 , and the outline is that we're going to introduce Vincent to 42 00:02:55,862 --> 00:03:00,961 you shortly. We're going to talk about leadership. In addition 43 00:03:01,002 --> 00:03:04,917 to that, some of the challenges that he's gone through, 44 00:03:05,016 --> 00:03:09,852 certainly in terms of the COVID period. We're going to talk 45 00:03:09,893 --> 00:03:12,721 about soccer, which is one of the loves of his life, and how 46 00:03:12,782 --> 00:03:15,992 that is important to his development and how that has 47 00:03:16,052 --> 00:03:19,626 helped him, and about his outlook and his plans for the 48 00:03:19,686 --> 00:03:26,131 future. As I said, we all know that the Gen Z is a unique 49 00:03:26,192 --> 00:03:29,390 generation, and a couple of things that have been said about 50 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:33,026 this generation is that they tend to be the lonelier 51 00:03:33,206 --> 00:03:36,090 generation. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I think 52 00:03:36,169 --> 00:03:41,006 part of it means that they have not had a privilege of the 53 00:03:41,145 --> 00:03:44,661 socialization that a lot of us sort of grew up with, and so 54 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:51,655 they tend to use their phones and their computers and insulate 55 00:03:51,655 --> 00:03:57,086 themselves and calm themselves and learn in ways that a lot of 56 00:03:57,207 --> 00:04:00,062 us, certainly back in the baby boom generation, did not learn. 57 00:04:02,460 --> 00:04:05,606 One of the other issues that's said about the Gen Z generation 58 00:04:06,027 --> 00:04:09,824 is that they are more diverse and they're more comfortable 59 00:04:09,905 --> 00:04:13,670 with diversity and those of us back in the baby boomers and 60 00:04:13,790 --> 00:04:16,201 others who've struggled and fought the wars and this, and 61 00:04:16,242 --> 00:04:20,040 that the Gen Z folks don't worry about that a lot. They just 62 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:23,322 sort of go with the flow, and that's a good thing and that's 63 00:04:23,362 --> 00:04:26,538 something that I think that we can all learn about in terms of 64 00:04:26,577 --> 00:04:32,896 what we have to do and that sort of thing. Thank you issue that 65 00:04:32,978 --> 00:04:37,172 came up when I did some research was that they are also very 66 00:04:37,232 --> 00:04:39,437 concerned about their mental health, which I found 67 00:04:39,478 --> 00:04:47,235 interesting and to some extent, unique. So, not to spend too 68 00:04:47,254 --> 00:04:50,440 much more time, let's go ahead and get into it, let's get right 69 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:57,139 on it. So, benson, why don't you tell us who you are and how 70 00:04:57,259 --> 00:04:59,165 old you are and what state you live in? 71 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:04,406 Speaker 3: I live in the state of California, I am 17 years old 72 00:05:04,406 --> 00:05:08,194 and I am going into my senior year of high school. 73 00:05:08,997 --> 00:05:13,302 Speaker 2: Okay, you go into your senior year of high school. 74 00:05:13,302 --> 00:05:21,838 Were there any things that you learned? Well, let me back up. 75 00:05:23,041 --> 00:05:26,752 Has your journey to your senior year of high school been easy or 76 00:05:26,752 --> 00:05:31,302 has it been hard? It's been challenging. What are some of 77 00:05:31,322 --> 00:05:32,004 those challenges? 78 00:05:33,386 --> 00:05:35,370 Speaker 3: For. The first one is COVID. 79 00:05:37,595 --> 00:05:38,959 Speaker 2: How was that a challenge for you? 80 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,125 Speaker 3: It was a challenge, because I'll do middle school. 81 00:05:46,274 --> 00:05:53,235 That's when COVID really started to come up. Okay, yeah. So I 82 00:05:53,297 --> 00:05:58,505 mean we thought that for stream break we were going to get two 83 00:05:58,526 --> 00:06:05,185 weeks off or three weeks off because COVID was rising, ended 84 00:06:05,245 --> 00:06:09,237 up turning into two and a half years of no in Persian school. 85 00:06:09,517 --> 00:06:12,204 Speaker 2: Two and a half years. So how did you adjust to that? 86 00:06:14,939 --> 00:06:18,908 Speaker 3: So some kids can agree with me, some kids will 87 00:06:18,947 --> 00:06:23,757 not. I feel like throughout my eighth grade year coming into my 88 00:06:23,757 --> 00:06:34,918 high school, my freshman year, and we were all online and it 89 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:40,771 was hard but easy, because for me, I had more distractions in 90 00:06:40,851 --> 00:06:45,461 school than at home but at the same time, I had the ability to 91 00:06:46,362 --> 00:06:50,776 pick and choose when I could do my schooling at home. Vice versa 92 00:06:50,776 --> 00:06:55,351 , if I would go to school, I'd have that time set where I'd 93 00:06:55,391 --> 00:06:58,362 have to go to this class at this time, I'd have to do homework 94 00:06:58,442 --> 00:07:02,235 at this time, or so, on and so forth, so you had more 95 00:07:02,454 --> 00:07:07,209 flexibility. Basically, yeah, oh , okay. And I feel like a lot of 96 00:07:07,209 --> 00:07:10,918 kids take advantage of that and got their classes done, and a 97 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,944 lot of kids didn't take advantage of that and that 98 00:07:13,985 --> 00:07:17,403 resulted into kids losing credit to their freshman and sophomore 99 00:07:17,403 --> 00:07:20,615 year because they didn't fulfill the requirements they 100 00:07:20,656 --> 00:07:25,062 needed to. Okay, okay so what? 101 00:07:25,182 --> 00:07:28,067 Speaker 2: so from an academic point of view, do you think 102 00:07:28,127 --> 00:07:31,672 COVID or the pandemic and being out of school that created time 103 00:07:31,692 --> 00:07:35,103 where you had to do everything on zoom? I guess? What was that? 104 00:07:35,103 --> 00:07:36,567 A plus or minus for you? 105 00:07:38,863 --> 00:07:43,860 Speaker 3: Both because well, let's get into the pluses I was 106 00:07:43,901 --> 00:07:46,543 more focused, I was more dedicated into getting good 107 00:07:46,564 --> 00:07:51,050 grades because I mean I wouldn't want to not graduate because I 108 00:07:51,089 --> 00:07:57,502 missed credits my freshman year. A negative component of that 109 00:07:57,541 --> 00:08:01,026 was there was a lot of issues with the computers and a lot of 110 00:08:01,086 --> 00:08:05,930 issues with the, say, the internet. Say, basically, your 111 00:08:05,971 --> 00:08:09,214 class rely on the internet and if the internet went out, I mean 112 00:08:09,214 --> 00:08:14,024 you can't do your class. So I feel like also that's why a lot 113 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:17,951 of kids struggled, because maybe they didn't have an internet 114 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:21,134 and they couldn't go to school or didn't have good internet. 115 00:08:21,321 --> 00:08:23,562 Yeah, good, okay, okay. 116 00:08:23,983 --> 00:08:27,649 Speaker 2: So did you have good internet? Oh yeah, I could do. 117 00:08:28,562 --> 00:08:37,370 Okay good, how did you deal with not being around your friends 118 00:08:37,590 --> 00:08:42,034 and that sort of thing? Was that a plus or a minus, or how did 119 00:08:42,054 --> 00:08:42,895 you adjust to that? 120 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,986 Speaker 3: To be honest, it was a plus because it was a 121 00:08:46,027 --> 00:08:50,822 transition to a grade to high school. So in middle school, I 122 00:08:50,863 --> 00:08:54,828 feel like that's when kids start to, I guess, develop into their 123 00:08:54,828 --> 00:08:57,693 own selves and start exploring more, because I mean, you're 124 00:08:57,714 --> 00:09:00,860 basically graduating from elementary to middle school and 125 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:04,203 I feel like middle school is where you really get to 126 00:09:04,323 --> 00:09:07,687 experience that change of getting six, seven classes a day 127 00:09:07,687 --> 00:09:13,533 , getting six, seven different teachers, having to do PE, 128 00:09:14,073 --> 00:09:18,124 having to do hardcore PE for the first time. Okay, yeah, and I 129 00:09:18,163 --> 00:09:23,025 feel like my friends were a bad influence on me. In what way? 130 00:09:24,301 --> 00:09:30,668 Smoking gangs, all that. So as soon as I was isolated from that 131 00:09:30,668 --> 00:09:35,874 environment, I mean I found new friends that can provide a 132 00:09:35,913 --> 00:09:36,715 better environment. 133 00:09:36,754 --> 00:09:39,802 Speaker 2: Interesting. So it was a plus because it allows you 134 00:09:39,802 --> 00:09:42,927 to separate from the present group that was there at the 135 00:09:42,967 --> 00:09:46,211 school and gave you the opportunity to just look at 136 00:09:46,352 --> 00:09:50,186 alternative associations, and that was a plus for you. It was 137 00:09:50,225 --> 00:09:57,265 a plus for me. Excellent, excellent, what? Have you been 138 00:09:57,306 --> 00:10:00,870 involved in any type of leadership at your school or 139 00:10:00,910 --> 00:10:04,335 related to your school and, if so, tell me about that. 140 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,571 Speaker 3: I'd say I was captain of my varsity soccer team for 141 00:10:09,811 --> 00:10:10,633 about three years now. 142 00:10:12,004 --> 00:10:13,048 Speaker 2: Okay, and how did that come about? 143 00:10:14,841 --> 00:10:18,106 Speaker 3: Freshman year Everyone. If you're going into 144 00:10:18,147 --> 00:10:21,192 high school freshman year, no matter how good you are, you're 145 00:10:21,211 --> 00:10:21,952 going to start at JV. 146 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,325 Speaker 2: As junior varsity. 147 00:10:24,961 --> 00:10:26,806 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to start at JV for your freshman 148 00:10:26,846 --> 00:10:29,823 year. Okay, all students, I don't care how good you are, 149 00:10:29,844 --> 00:10:35,243 you're going to start at JV, okay. Okay, you're going to 150 00:10:35,263 --> 00:10:38,649 start at JV, but maybe as the year progresses, you get bumped 151 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:52,537 up. If you're good enough, okay, I'm going to start at JV for 152 00:10:52,557 --> 00:10:59,389 the freshman year. I'm good, energy and I bring the 153 00:10:59,450 --> 00:11:05,025 competitiveness to the game. Okay, and I feel like not a lot 154 00:11:05,105 --> 00:11:11,203 of players on my team had that drive to win. It was like. It is 155 00:11:11,203 --> 00:11:13,203 what it is if we lose, like, no , like. 156 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,908 Speaker 2: And why do you think you have that drive with that 157 00:11:15,927 --> 00:11:16,649 competitiveness? 158 00:11:17,221 --> 00:11:22,389 Speaker 3: Because I honestly feel like I get it from my 159 00:11:22,429 --> 00:11:26,323 grandpa and my dad to be honest, my mom too I feel like that's 160 00:11:26,344 --> 00:11:29,466 just my family. I mean, we, if we're going to do something, we 161 00:11:29,506 --> 00:11:34,464 do it well, okay, and we strive for the best. So I believe that 162 00:11:34,945 --> 00:11:36,168 that's a reason. 163 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:42,566 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. Have you ever? What would you 164 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:46,312 say, you learned in just sticking with the COVID for it, 165 00:11:46,352 --> 00:11:50,948 right? What was your biggest lesson that you learned during 166 00:11:50,969 --> 00:11:55,384 the COVID time, during those few years that you, you know you 167 00:11:55,404 --> 00:11:59,900 couldn't go into the classroom and that sort of thing that you 168 00:11:59,941 --> 00:12:03,589 think will help you, you know, as you continue on your journey 169 00:12:03,649 --> 00:12:04,230 as an adult? 170 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:12,530 Speaker 3: I feel like the lesson was if you don't work for 171 00:12:12,530 --> 00:12:14,899 it, you won't get to where you're going to be at, for 172 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:21,432 instance. Like for an example I mean I could barely do 20 173 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:24,438 juggles in the backyard starting out when I first got back into 174 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,924 soccer and now I can do 100 easy . So what? What is a? 175 00:12:27,965 --> 00:12:30,567 Speaker 2: juggle For those of us who are not a soccer player. 176 00:12:33,244 --> 00:12:36,288 Speaker 3: Basically, if how you juggle with your hands, you 177 00:12:36,349 --> 00:12:38,893 juggle with your feet. Oh, okay, so okay. 178 00:12:39,614 --> 00:12:42,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, so your skill, your physical skills, that 179 00:12:42,248 --> 00:12:43,614 improve significantly. 180 00:12:45,846 --> 00:12:48,615 Speaker 3: But also my mental skill, because, I mean, my coach 181 00:12:48,615 --> 00:12:53,912 is a pretty wise man. He told me that it's all about the 182 00:12:53,932 --> 00:12:56,600 mindset and the dedication to get you to where you want to be 183 00:12:56,620 --> 00:13:02,649 at, and I feel like, with all the adversities that are faced 184 00:13:02,788 --> 00:13:08,138 and the Bumper that I've gone past, I'm fulfilling the 185 00:13:08,658 --> 00:13:12,345 requirements to achieve my dream , which is to put major league 186 00:13:12,365 --> 00:13:15,511 soccer, or typically college soccer, okay, okay. 187 00:13:15,851 --> 00:13:17,321 Speaker 2: And that makes sense. And one of the things that 188 00:13:17,341 --> 00:13:19,947 we've said repeatedly on these podcasts is that what you 189 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:23,554 believe affects how you think and what you think affects how 190 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:27,504 you feel and how you feel affects how you act. But I found 191 00:13:27,504 --> 00:13:30,890 it extraordinarily interesting that it's 17, that you sort of 192 00:13:30,951 --> 00:13:33,945 figured that out, and I think, again, this may be something 193 00:13:34,004 --> 00:13:38,461 else that's exemplary of you, gen Zers. Yeah, and I think that 194 00:13:38,461 --> 00:13:41,899 you you recognize the importance of that and by 195 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,582 starting with the most important area first, in other words, 196 00:13:44,602 --> 00:13:48,025 your mindset that a lot of these other things blow and they blow 197 00:13:48,025 --> 00:13:52,809 more easily or more effectively for you than some of the rest 198 00:13:52,850 --> 00:13:57,054 of us that sort of struggle with more and more things to be 199 00:13:57,095 --> 00:14:03,061 concerned about. Why is it that you like soccer? Is it unique 200 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:06,590 about soccer or, as compared to other sports, for you? 201 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,527 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's can argue that I mean some of 202 00:14:11,547 --> 00:14:15,980 the just football, baseball et cetera, so forth. But I feel 203 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,309 like soccer is really been a big part of my life since I've grew 204 00:14:21,309 --> 00:14:28,860 up on it. I've played it since I was four, four and a half. My 205 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:34,451 mistake was was I took a break for about eight or eight or nine 206 00:14:34,451 --> 00:14:40,254 years. I took a break for a long time because I mean like I 207 00:14:40,274 --> 00:14:44,427 kind of didn't believe myself as little. I was like I stopped 208 00:14:44,447 --> 00:14:50,448 playing at 10. So about seven, no, about, yeah, about seven 209 00:14:50,469 --> 00:14:56,083 years. To be honest, like when I started getting back into it, 210 00:14:56,203 --> 00:14:59,869 it was just like the drive and the love of the game again and 211 00:14:59,889 --> 00:15:03,813 the passion of the game that really got me to love the game 212 00:15:03,854 --> 00:15:09,524 again or love it more than I used to. And with all the the 213 00:15:09,644 --> 00:15:14,751 positiveness around me I mean my dad mentoring me every day 214 00:15:15,052 --> 00:15:20,061 before I joined the Barça club I mean it was just a good 215 00:15:20,101 --> 00:15:28,647 experience. And now, since I've gone through that and I mean I 216 00:15:28,687 --> 00:15:33,429 don't know, it was just a crazy experience because I mean, 217 00:15:34,191 --> 00:15:40,575 compared to when I was 14, barely starting now, I mean it's 218 00:15:40,575 --> 00:15:44,418 just been a crazy, crazy life story, to be honest. 219 00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:49,582 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this what would you say is your 220 00:15:49,643 --> 00:15:55,333 greatest talent or skill that you've developed over time? 221 00:15:56,019 --> 00:16:00,062 Speaker 3: I'd say two of my greatest talents and skills are 222 00:16:01,924 --> 00:16:07,028 being able to take things in and letting things go. To be honest 223 00:16:07,028 --> 00:16:16,883 , from, say other people are like. Also my ability to control 224 00:16:16,883 --> 00:16:21,394 my emotions. Okay, because when I was little I would have 225 00:16:21,495 --> 00:16:26,750 angered issues, anger management classes and all that. To be 226 00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:31,039 honest, I don't think it really helped me, but I feel like since 227 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:36,157 COVID since I doubled it on my own and I learned to control it 228 00:16:36,216 --> 00:16:42,971 on my own, it was just like a way for things to just settle 229 00:16:43,011 --> 00:16:50,037 down and for me to calm down. Okay. But yeah, and another 230 00:16:50,076 --> 00:16:54,369 skill is, I mean, my soccer journey. To be honest, that's 231 00:16:54,429 --> 00:16:57,621 one of the things I'm most proud of, okay. 232 00:16:58,592 --> 00:17:01,423 Speaker 2: You know it's interesting when you said not 233 00:17:01,462 --> 00:17:04,652 let things bother you. I have as part of my basic principles 234 00:17:04,752 --> 00:17:09,611 don't sweat the small stuff, and most stuff is small Coming to 235 00:17:09,651 --> 00:17:12,505 the same conclusion that you've come to that most of the things 236 00:17:12,946 --> 00:17:16,798 that aggravate you or upset you or whatever are really not as 237 00:17:16,837 --> 00:17:19,890 big a deal as you think they are At least not at the time and 238 00:17:19,910 --> 00:17:22,797 that what you'll find is you just let them go and put it in 239 00:17:22,836 --> 00:17:27,442 perspective and it's not that big a deal. Okay, excellent, 240 00:17:31,734 --> 00:17:35,621 think about it. What's a good academic subject that inspires 241 00:17:35,661 --> 00:17:38,958 you? You know of the subjects that you're taking, so let me 242 00:17:39,038 --> 00:17:40,410 ask you what is your GPA? 243 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: My GPA is a tool coming from my junior GPA this 244 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,202 past school year, or was it? 245 00:17:48,663 --> 00:17:55,077 Speaker 2: 3.8? 3.8, okay, what is a particular subject or class 246 00:17:55,077 --> 00:17:57,702 that you've taken that really inspires you, that you really 247 00:17:57,742 --> 00:17:57,962 like? 248 00:17:59,471 --> 00:18:02,718 Speaker 3: Well, it's just kind of a class that I'm going to 249 00:18:02,738 --> 00:18:07,009 take, okay, all right, coming into my senior year. Okay, I'm 250 00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:08,800 really interested and I think it's going to change my 251 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,357 perspective on how I see things. Is AP Psychology? 252 00:18:12,898 --> 00:18:15,817 Speaker 2: AP Psychology. Ron, congratulations for taking an AP 253 00:18:15,817 --> 00:18:20,394 class. That's always good in high school. I remember that. 254 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:23,938 But what is it that fascinates you about psychology? 255 00:18:25,211 --> 00:18:27,900 Speaker 3: I want to know, or want to be able to understand, 256 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:34,115 how the different parts of the human might think and what 257 00:18:34,135 --> 00:18:37,039 components of the brain allow us to think that way. 258 00:18:37,721 --> 00:18:45,481 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, In terms of the and why. What is that 259 00:18:45,521 --> 00:18:49,579 fascinacy In terms of the human body and that sort of thing 260 00:18:50,371 --> 00:18:50,852 Overall. 261 00:18:50,913 --> 00:18:54,806 Speaker 3: I mean, I would want to pursue in the medical field 262 00:18:54,846 --> 00:18:58,192 and I would want to be some type of doctor in the future. So I 263 00:18:58,231 --> 00:19:02,382 feel like AP Psychology gives me that kind of kickstart. 264 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,737 Speaker 2: So you're interested in going into medicine. Yes, oh, 265 00:19:05,737 --> 00:19:08,813 that's always good. That's always good. We certainly like 266 00:19:08,873 --> 00:19:16,214 that. Yeah, always good. Another question, and I'm just randomly 267 00:19:16,214 --> 00:19:20,431 asking these things what are you passionate about? Listen, 268 00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:20,951 john, what? 269 00:19:22,834 --> 00:19:33,653 Speaker 3: are you passionate about what bars you up? What 270 00:19:34,194 --> 00:19:39,536 excites you. To be honest, I feel like Bakri, yes, but also 271 00:19:40,277 --> 00:19:47,777 like working out by myself. Okay , explain that. I mean it's just 272 00:19:47,777 --> 00:19:51,023 like kind of like a therapy, like going out for a run or like 273 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:57,717 doing something by yourself that just like like just gets 274 00:19:57,757 --> 00:20:03,939 you to feel like I guess gives you a dope, new rush of feeling 275 00:20:04,019 --> 00:20:08,179 good, like feeling refreshed. I mean, you did this by yourself. 276 00:20:08,259 --> 00:20:11,153 When you say you didn't want to do it and you still did it, 277 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:16,939 that's also a mindset thing. That's something that I learned 278 00:20:16,979 --> 00:20:19,971 that even if you don't want to do it and you still do the thing 279 00:20:19,971 --> 00:20:22,258 that you don't want to do, it will pay off again. 280 00:20:22,739 --> 00:20:24,031 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, there are a lot of 281 00:20:24,071 --> 00:20:27,820 professional athletes talk about that in terms of that mindset, 282 00:20:27,882 --> 00:20:30,875 even just individuals who exercise a lot, in terms of the 283 00:20:30,976 --> 00:20:34,550 mental health benefit of exercise. Yeah, you know, and 284 00:20:34,570 --> 00:20:36,896 you mentioned accomplishments, you know you don't want to do it 285 00:20:36,896 --> 00:20:39,553 , you know, but then you do it anyway. Then, after you do it, 286 00:20:39,593 --> 00:20:43,315 you feel better, and those of us in the health care field we 287 00:20:43,355 --> 00:20:47,750 call that therapy. That, indeed, is a type of therapy and it's 288 00:20:47,789 --> 00:20:52,178 something worth continuing to keep us healthy, wealthy and 289 00:20:52,218 --> 00:21:00,278 wise, as we like to say. What would you say is your biggest 290 00:21:00,458 --> 00:21:03,242 strength and what would you say is your biggest weakness? 291 00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 3: Oh, academically or just in general. Just in general 292 00:21:07,239 --> 00:21:15,352 , I'd say, my biggest weakness is, I'd say, like academically 293 00:21:15,412 --> 00:21:20,007 is math. Okay, well, academically is math. I'd say my 294 00:21:20,007 --> 00:21:26,604 biggest achievement is learning how to understand math in a way 295 00:21:26,604 --> 00:21:30,425 that it's just a formula that you need to master. Likewise, 296 00:21:31,268 --> 00:21:33,813 soccer is just a formula. 297 00:21:33,854 --> 00:21:36,546 Speaker 2: You need to master. If that makes sense, it does 298 00:21:36,606 --> 00:21:39,648 make sense and what I like about it is that you took your 299 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:44,087 weakness and made it in a strength, that I would argue 300 00:21:44,127 --> 00:21:47,782 that if you have a weakness that you know of and you're able to 301 00:21:47,883 --> 00:21:52,400 attack that weakness and convert it or change it or modify it so 302 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,690 that it is less of a weakness and more of a strength, that's a 303 00:21:55,690 --> 00:22:00,148 huge achievement. Thank you again for listening to our very 304 00:22:00,249 --> 00:22:05,526 unique, healthy, wealth and Wise podcast today. This is the 305 00:22:05,566 --> 00:22:09,565 first time that we've interviewed a Gen Z member and 306 00:22:09,585 --> 00:22:12,611 one of the things that a number of things we've learned one is 307 00:22:13,132 --> 00:22:19,450 that even at age 17, members of the Gen Z generation have 308 00:22:19,549 --> 00:22:25,285 learned how to take adversity and turn it into a strength, and 309 00:22:25,285 --> 00:22:29,173 that's clearly something that we can all do when things happen 310 00:22:29,173 --> 00:22:35,915 in our respective lives. Interestingly, I found that when 311 00:22:35,915 --> 00:22:39,705 listening to someone doing COVID, particularly those in 312 00:22:39,806 --> 00:22:43,295 junior high school and high school we hear the downside 313 00:22:43,335 --> 00:22:46,632 about how it's difficult for students and how the grades have 314 00:22:46,632 --> 00:22:50,511 dropped. It's good to remember, like Vincent, that some of 315 00:22:50,551 --> 00:22:56,009 these students actually did better with a more organized, a 316 00:22:56,309 --> 00:23:01,598 slower, a more restricted, a more controlled environment that 317 00:23:01,598 --> 00:23:03,789 they were. They were able to take control of their 318 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:08,954 circumstances, and I think it's important to understand that Gen 319 00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:13,467 Z is different from the rest of us, not to mention the fact of 320 00:23:13,527 --> 00:23:18,496 their dependence and use and integration, if you will, of 321 00:23:19,376 --> 00:23:24,412 technology, and that includes the artificial intelligence, 322 00:23:24,551 --> 00:23:29,875 chatbot technology, for it's the Gen Z generation that would be 323 00:23:29,914 --> 00:23:33,385 the first generation, among others, to take that into our 324 00:23:33,425 --> 00:23:37,894 colleges and universities when they begin to enroll in the next 325 00:23:37,894 --> 00:23:43,051 two to three years. 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