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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,740 Dr. William T Choctaw: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very, very 2 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,039 special guest brother Keith Hanson. 3 00:00:04,384 --> 00:00:07,794 Who we've known for a number of years, but who's been involved with some very 4 00:00:07,794 --> 00:00:14,204 unique activities, specifically involving education and involving our youth. 5 00:00:14,904 --> 00:00:18,834 And because we were so impressed with the work that he has done. 6 00:00:19,254 --> 00:00:23,314 We invited him to join us on Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 7 00:00:23,354 --> 00:00:27,884 podcast, and he graciously agreed for him to share some of that. 8 00:00:27,924 --> 00:00:31,264 This is about leadership, and this is, this podcast is part 9 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:32,934 of our Leadership Masterclass. 10 00:00:33,394 --> 00:00:39,144 And so our hope is that as you listen, to the work of Brother Hanson and other 11 00:00:39,144 --> 00:00:43,644 leaders that you too will be inspired to do something like what he's doing 12 00:00:44,004 --> 00:00:48,774 or just certainly assist him or help him in doing what he has been doing. 13 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:51,224 So, welcome again, Brother Hanson. 14 00:00:51,704 --> 00:00:52,024 Thank you. 15 00:00:52,024 --> 00:00:52,824 It's good to be here. 16 00:00:53,384 --> 00:00:56,954 Thank you., so what about the future now? 17 00:00:57,274 --> 00:01:04,034 You're actually here because you made a presentation at the Men's 18 00:01:04,094 --> 00:01:06,314 Fellowship Council that impressed me. 19 00:01:06,714 --> 00:01:09,094 And I said, wow, those are good ideas. 20 00:01:09,094 --> 00:01:12,349 You know, I need to talk with this guy and find out blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 21 00:01:12,499 --> 00:01:16,779 And so I guess my point is I think the challenge now is that those of us who 22 00:01:16,779 --> 00:01:23,189 are of like mind need to work together, whatever that means, to sort of help to 23 00:01:23,189 --> 00:01:27,619 solve the problem because no one person can do it by himself or by herself. 24 00:01:28,029 --> 00:01:31,444 One, one of the things, a, again, after that meeting the, the 25 00:01:31,444 --> 00:01:32,974 Chief Production Officer, Mr. 26 00:01:32,974 --> 00:01:37,984 Hammonds and I had a conversation, we, we, we had a conversation and 27 00:01:37,984 --> 00:01:46,304 we decided based on that meeting to start a pod, a youth podcasters club. 28 00:01:47,679 --> 00:01:51,809 That, you know, any youth, doesn't matter what church you go to, where you 29 00:01:51,809 --> 00:01:55,839 are, if you're interested in podcasting or learning about it or whatever, 30 00:01:55,839 --> 00:01:59,239 whatever, whatever, you know, contact, go to our website and we'll get you 31 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:01,109 information and start you on your way. 32 00:02:01,929 --> 00:02:02,029 That's great. 33 00:02:02,029 --> 00:02:03,419 Most of the stuff is free. 34 00:02:03,794 --> 00:02:07,244 You know, you know, like you can start a podcast for like six months 35 00:02:07,244 --> 00:02:09,454 for free, you know, on and on and on. 36 00:02:09,654 --> 00:02:11,334 But that's just a small part. 37 00:02:11,904 --> 00:02:15,834 The more important part in my judgment is the focus on education 38 00:02:15,834 --> 00:02:19,804 and, and, and the substantive things that, that can be done with that. 39 00:02:20,114 --> 00:02:23,924 So, you know, how, what, what else, what help do you need? 40 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:27,829 To help you move forward with some of the things that you're doing. 41 00:02:28,119 --> 00:02:30,789 And it's always, it's like the stock market, it's always up and 42 00:02:30,789 --> 00:02:32,639 down, you know, and that's okay. 43 00:02:33,249 --> 00:02:37,829 Keith Hansen: Well, I think getting the, getting the information out there I have 44 00:02:38,119 --> 00:02:41,699 some, and I'll share it, gladly share it with you guys so that you can pass it on, 45 00:02:41,709 --> 00:02:46,449 do with it as you wish to, to brighten and enlighten some of these people's lives. 46 00:02:46,769 --> 00:02:50,949 But again, to your point, some of the things that I learned 47 00:02:51,379 --> 00:02:52,879 to try to help our kids. 48 00:02:53,339 --> 00:02:54,549 And it can be done anywhere. 49 00:02:54,969 --> 00:02:58,539 When I found out some of our kids that things that they wanted to do, I tried 50 00:02:58,539 --> 00:03:02,019 to put them in contact with people that look like them, that do what they want to 51 00:03:02,079 --> 00:03:04,179 do so they can know that it's believable. 52 00:03:04,409 --> 00:03:05,899 There was some that wanted to be firemen. 53 00:03:05,909 --> 00:03:07,089 I put them in contact with Mr. 54 00:03:07,089 --> 00:03:08,699 Fonville and some of the others. 55 00:03:08,699 --> 00:03:12,433 One of my relatives, he was a fire captain for a Compton fire department. 56 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:13,659 Matter of fact, he worked with Mr. 57 00:03:13,659 --> 00:03:18,399 Fonville and when they saw somebody that they knew at church or whatever, 58 00:03:18,729 --> 00:03:20,949 it changed, it was very different. 59 00:03:21,264 --> 00:03:24,624 I used to take a matter of fact, one of the ones I did with Doris 60 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:29,914 Simpson's daughter and Patrick's son when they graduated college, which 61 00:03:29,914 --> 00:03:32,294 I had talked with them and stuff before, but when they graduated 62 00:03:32,294 --> 00:03:33,754 college, one had a poli sci degree. 63 00:03:33,754 --> 00:03:35,494 And the other, I believe hers is in marketing. 64 00:03:35,964 --> 00:03:37,574 I took them to my job with me. 65 00:03:37,664 --> 00:03:40,664 I work at Metro and they have. 66 00:03:41,489 --> 00:03:44,059 floors of people that do all sorts of things based on 67 00:03:44,059 --> 00:03:45,189 their degrees that they did. 68 00:03:45,189 --> 00:03:46,669 27 floors of people. 69 00:03:46,889 --> 00:03:50,309 So I took them there and I took them to the different departments where 70 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:53,409 they could utilize their degree and have them meet people, get business 71 00:03:53,419 --> 00:03:56,289 cards from them so they could talk to them and hear their story, what 72 00:03:56,289 --> 00:03:57,669 they did and how they got there. 73 00:03:57,999 --> 00:03:59,419 And those things make a difference. 74 00:03:59,529 --> 00:04:01,969 There was one of the little girls at church, she wanted to be a lawyer. 75 00:04:01,969 --> 00:04:05,809 So I took her there to see a lady named Nedra Jenkins one of the only African 76 00:04:05,809 --> 00:04:10,909 American female lawyers that Metro had of, I think they had about 15, 10, 15 lawyers. 77 00:04:11,329 --> 00:04:14,029 And I asked her before, why do you want to do that? 78 00:04:14,029 --> 00:04:16,849 And she gave me these reasons, which weren't good ones, but I had to 79 00:04:16,859 --> 00:04:19,129 take her to shore to meet this lady. 80 00:04:19,669 --> 00:04:20,649 And it made a difference. 81 00:04:20,659 --> 00:04:23,189 She was talking about, she's going to be in court and do this, that, 82 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:24,209 and the other, make all this money. 83 00:04:24,209 --> 00:04:27,689 But before you get there, I asked her, do you, how are your 84 00:04:27,689 --> 00:04:28,829 reading and writing skills? 85 00:04:28,869 --> 00:04:29,859 I don't like to write. 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,009 I read when I have to so she goes in this lady's office and she's got 87 00:04:34,009 --> 00:04:38,829 stacks of books up and she's writing she's typing and she's like, wow, when 88 00:04:38,829 --> 00:04:41,979 she started explained to her before you go on stage at court you have a 89 00:04:41,979 --> 00:04:45,694 lot of this background stuff that has to be done before you get the bright 90 00:04:45,694 --> 00:04:47,264 lights and glamour of going to court. 91 00:04:47,264 --> 00:04:49,374 And she was devastated. 92 00:04:49,374 --> 00:04:51,244 And then she realized this isn't for me then. 93 00:04:51,704 --> 00:04:55,834 And so kind of like I tell some of our kids now when they're not sure exactly 94 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:59,504 what they want to do, I encourage them to go take the ASVAB test, the arm surface 95 00:04:59,524 --> 00:05:03,754 vocational aptitude battery test for the military, not to go into the military. 96 00:05:04,029 --> 00:05:08,619 But if you know, the three of us here, anybody that went in the military, usually 97 00:05:08,619 --> 00:05:10,849 they get a job that they saw and do well. 98 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:12,069 It's not magic. 99 00:05:12,069 --> 00:05:15,869 How it happens is because of the tests that they take shows their strengths and 100 00:05:15,869 --> 00:05:20,729 their weaknesses, and they guide them into careers and jobs where they're strong at. 101 00:05:20,729 --> 00:05:23,719 If they see that they suck at something, they're not going to push them into 102 00:05:23,719 --> 00:05:25,659 that and let them struggle and founder. 103 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:30,279 And so the same thing, once they take that test and learn that I'm good at English, 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,889 or I'm good at math, or I'm good at. 105 00:05:32,159 --> 00:05:33,419 Mechanics or whatever. 106 00:05:33,629 --> 00:05:37,249 Let's embrace the careers that utilize those skills that are easy for you 107 00:05:37,249 --> 00:05:40,679 to do and you take it and use it to get something that is scalable, 108 00:05:40,679 --> 00:05:45,179 sustainable and marketable and set yourself up and you'll be fine. 109 00:05:45,299 --> 00:05:49,659 So yeah, there's, there's a lot of things we can do again 110 00:05:49,669 --> 00:05:51,039 by sharing the information. 111 00:05:51,379 --> 00:05:53,559 I tell the kids again. 112 00:05:54,474 --> 00:05:58,854 A lot of them talk about money and finance for college and worry about that. 113 00:05:58,854 --> 00:06:04,374 Like you said, and I said, if you, well, a couple of things I usually 114 00:06:04,394 --> 00:06:08,164 do this presentation and it talks about the three D's of success. 115 00:06:08,674 --> 00:06:12,194 And I draw this triangle and I tell them about how a triangle is the 116 00:06:12,194 --> 00:06:14,254 strongest geometrical shape known to man. 117 00:06:14,254 --> 00:06:16,734 It can build and do wonderful things. 118 00:06:17,014 --> 00:06:20,224 I says, and on one side of this triangle, you have. 119 00:06:20,824 --> 00:06:25,664 Dedication and the other side, you have determination, but 120 00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:29,014 the base of the triangle that makes it strong is discipline. 121 00:06:29,474 --> 00:06:33,384 And without discipline, you will not be successful in life at all. 122 00:06:33,704 --> 00:06:36,304 It takes discipline to do anything. 123 00:06:36,304 --> 00:06:38,834 And especially matriculate through a college campus. 124 00:06:39,144 --> 00:06:40,434 You have to be disciplined. 125 00:06:40,444 --> 00:06:41,554 You have to be focused. 126 00:06:41,614 --> 00:06:43,864 You have to be deliberate and you have to be intentional. 127 00:06:44,054 --> 00:06:46,274 And you can do that now as high school students. 128 00:06:46,644 --> 00:06:50,534 Take ownership of your education and drive it where it needs to go. 129 00:06:51,054 --> 00:06:51,304 So 130 00:06:51,594 --> 00:06:54,604 Dr. William T Choctaw: I think one of the things that we can do and 131 00:06:54,834 --> 00:06:58,764 again, you know we'll get approved from the chief production officer. 132 00:06:59,924 --> 00:07:04,604 I think there's a lot of, I think we can provide a platform. 133 00:07:05,704 --> 00:07:12,164 For you to communicate and in our podcast, we're approaching 20, 000 downloads 134 00:07:12,624 --> 00:07:15,104 and this is why this is not just U. 135 00:07:15,104 --> 00:07:15,414 S. 136 00:07:15,414 --> 00:07:19,034 or California, but at the very least. 137 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:24,209 We can get the word out and it could be certain type of people who are 138 00:07:24,209 --> 00:07:28,989 getting the word out to certain type of people and everybody else, but at 139 00:07:28,989 --> 00:07:34,139 least that can be done, you know, and, and, and I think just, just in the last, 140 00:07:34,159 --> 00:07:38,169 just this month in terms of knowing what you're doing and you're knowing 141 00:07:38,169 --> 00:07:41,799 some of the things that we're doing and sort of merging some of that so 142 00:07:41,799 --> 00:07:43,049 that we can all help each other with. 143 00:07:43,389 --> 00:07:44,679 To focus on the youth. 144 00:07:44,679 --> 00:07:49,034 I, I just think that, you know, you, you can't a group a race, a, 145 00:07:49,634 --> 00:07:53,979 a, a team, a culture cannot survive if you don't focus on your youth. 146 00:07:54,254 --> 00:07:54,789 You, you, 147 00:07:54,999 --> 00:07:55,569 Keith Hansen: well, here's the thing. 148 00:07:55,569 --> 00:08:01,039 If you, if you look at others that are thriving and surviving and excelling, 149 00:08:01,589 --> 00:08:06,149 they're doing something that we don't do is networking help each other. 150 00:08:06,389 --> 00:08:06,539 Yep. 151 00:08:06,609 --> 00:08:08,694 Right now at the Cal Poly campus, during the summer. 152 00:08:09,274 --> 00:08:12,364 There's so many programs they have on there for Latino youth 153 00:08:12,364 --> 00:08:13,434 and this, that, and the other. 154 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:15,714 And I was there. 155 00:08:15,784 --> 00:08:20,664 And it's like, wow, all these kids are putting in extra work, doing extra stuff. 156 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:22,564 But where are our kids? 157 00:08:22,784 --> 00:08:23,204 You know, 158 00:08:23,374 --> 00:08:28,134 Dr. William T Choctaw: I benefited in the seventies, you know, in the seventies 159 00:08:28,134 --> 00:08:32,784 from going to summer programs in Nashville at my high school, Tennessee State 160 00:08:32,784 --> 00:08:35,904 University had a summer science program. 161 00:08:35,904 --> 00:08:37,444 It's like about three or four weeks. 162 00:08:37,854 --> 00:08:41,814 I went there my first time ever being on a college campus, and 163 00:08:41,814 --> 00:08:43,884 I said, wow, I really like this. 164 00:08:44,154 --> 00:08:47,374 But that then caused me to get interested in biochemistry, 165 00:08:47,744 --> 00:08:49,644 which was my major at college. 166 00:08:49,844 --> 00:08:54,994 I told my kids growing up summer is not relaxation time. 167 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:57,724 Summer is time you use to get ahead. 168 00:08:58,104 --> 00:09:00,324 You know, you make up stuff. 169 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:03,544 Keith Hansen: That needs to be preached. 170 00:09:03,624 --> 00:09:03,974 That needs to be. 171 00:09:03,974 --> 00:09:04,384 Yes. 172 00:09:04,385 --> 00:09:04,694 Yes. 173 00:09:04,694 --> 00:09:06,429 I learned that. 174 00:09:06,439 --> 00:09:09,539 A lot of our kids is laying up and being cute during the summer 175 00:09:09,539 --> 00:09:10,689 instead of putting in work. 176 00:09:10,809 --> 00:09:11,839 Well, I think it's, it's 177 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:14,419 Dr. William T Choctaw: sort of what we taught them and, and it's sort of what 178 00:09:14,419 --> 00:09:18,639 they're told that's expected of them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 179 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,309 Well, I, I think moving forward and I, I want to be respectful 180 00:09:22,309 --> 00:09:22,989 Keith Hansen: of your time. 181 00:09:23,339 --> 00:09:24,439 No, no, I'm fine. 182 00:09:26,139 --> 00:09:28,829 You said something there about this and here's one of the 183 00:09:28,839 --> 00:09:30,579 things again I did with my kids. 184 00:09:30,629 --> 00:09:34,599 And at first I caught backlash from them, but then it became a way of life. 185 00:09:34,709 --> 00:09:35,449 Couple of things. 186 00:09:36,674 --> 00:09:40,094 Our, most of our stuff that we did was at church, near the 187 00:09:40,094 --> 00:09:41,024 church, this, that, and the other. 188 00:09:41,034 --> 00:09:43,484 And it's at least 30 minutes away from my house. 189 00:09:44,114 --> 00:09:47,744 So I would tell the kids wherever we go, whenever we go different places 190 00:09:47,744 --> 00:09:51,164 that we go, cause we were very, very involved with their sports and 191 00:09:51,164 --> 00:09:54,654 this, that, and the other, as well as church choir mission programs. 192 00:09:54,974 --> 00:09:56,394 So we were always on the road. 193 00:09:56,394 --> 00:09:58,224 I'd get off the train and my wife, sometimes would 194 00:09:58,224 --> 00:09:59,084 give me one or two of them. 195 00:09:59,084 --> 00:10:01,824 I'm taking some, some, she's taking some another place, but 196 00:10:01,824 --> 00:10:03,064 I'd tell them wherever we go. 197 00:10:03,464 --> 00:10:07,114 If it's longer than 15 or 20 minutes in the car, you got to bring a book to read. 198 00:10:07,434 --> 00:10:10,044 She started them on reading books each week. 199 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:11,774 They had to spend an hour and a night reading. 200 00:10:11,774 --> 00:10:15,004 And every Friday they would go to the library and she would get a new batch 201 00:10:15,004 --> 00:10:16,344 of books for him for the next week. 202 00:10:16,694 --> 00:10:20,744 So some of these things that you, you have to do, but during the summer I started a 203 00:10:20,744 --> 00:10:24,414 thing and I started telling some of my, and it takes the work of the parents. 204 00:10:24,414 --> 00:10:26,264 And if they're not willing to do it, it won't work. 205 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:27,874 But I had a thing for my kids. 206 00:10:27,874 --> 00:10:29,774 I called it the summer success Academy. 207 00:10:30,774 --> 00:10:36,469 During the summer, I would have, get their next year's You can go to the library and 208 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,539 they have an accelerated reading list for the next grade that they're going to so 209 00:10:40,539 --> 00:10:43,529 you can get some of those books and get them early and get them exposed to it. 210 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:46,969 You can have them write book reports, you know, I used to have the youngest 211 00:10:46,969 --> 00:10:50,209 one she did a little basic one, the middle one she did a little bit more. 212 00:10:50,509 --> 00:10:54,139 And my son, he had a complex one that he had to do, have them during this, 213 00:10:54,139 --> 00:10:56,959 during the summer, pick some of the books that you find out that they're 214 00:10:56,999 --> 00:10:58,559 interested in certain things to do that. 215 00:10:58,789 --> 00:11:00,209 I would get the next year's math. 216 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:02,749 And right now there's like one I don't know if you heard of, 217 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:06,469 call it Khan Academy and others that you can go to Khan Academy. 218 00:11:06,469 --> 00:11:06,919 Yeah. 219 00:11:07,339 --> 00:11:11,694 Their next year, their next year's math. 220 00:11:12,164 --> 00:11:16,924 And and have them get exposed to it and start to learn it before time. 221 00:11:17,204 --> 00:11:18,634 You can work with them with writing. 222 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:20,894 I would give them writing assignments and things like this. 223 00:11:21,204 --> 00:11:23,924 Sometimes they would want to do stuff for the summer, go somewhere and I'd say, 224 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:28,574 write me a paper and persuade me, write a persuasive essay that why we need to 225 00:11:28,574 --> 00:11:33,104 do this or why I should, you know, and they would say, Oh, dad, but they did it. 226 00:11:33,134 --> 00:11:37,214 And starting off with my son and then with Jasmine and with Jada, they're phenomenal 227 00:11:37,214 --> 00:11:39,834 writers as a result of it, as it gets. 228 00:11:40,294 --> 00:11:42,654 Further down the road because it started doing it more and more and 229 00:11:42,654 --> 00:11:47,544 it became that's the way we roll, you know We I'll say this real quick. 230 00:11:47,884 --> 00:11:49,854 We went one time to a family reunion. 231 00:11:49,884 --> 00:11:53,544 We did a red eye flight to Chicago We went to the reunion But the next week 232 00:11:53,864 --> 00:11:58,334 we went to Pittsburgh and we drove from Chicago to Pittsburgh is over eight 233 00:11:58,334 --> 00:12:01,914 hours one way Right, and everybody said how did you stay in those in the 234 00:12:01,924 --> 00:12:03,684 car with those kids for eight hours? 235 00:12:04,059 --> 00:12:07,459 We took books and this and that and we had videos and stuff like 236 00:12:07,459 --> 00:12:08,719 this, but we never turned them on. 237 00:12:08,969 --> 00:12:10,039 We played games with them. 238 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:11,439 We taught them different languages. 239 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:12,059 We taught them. 240 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:15,149 I had a math game that I play with them in the car, a spelling game. 241 00:12:15,149 --> 00:12:17,619 I play with them in the car on and on and on. 242 00:12:17,959 --> 00:12:21,079 And those things doing that stuff. 243 00:12:22,034 --> 00:12:22,584 It works. 244 00:12:22,594 --> 00:12:25,194 It takes a lot of work and stuff, but it works. 245 00:12:25,524 --> 00:12:29,414 So it takes a lot of extra stuff you have to do to turn out some 246 00:12:29,994 --> 00:12:32,584 products that are able to do that. 247 00:12:33,684 --> 00:12:34,124 Well, but 248 00:12:34,144 --> 00:12:36,844 Dr. William T Choctaw: what we can do, we can help you. 249 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:41,694 We can provide a platform and it could be multiple things. 250 00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:46,159 I, you know, I'll leave it up to you and Jesse in terms of Which categories and all 251 00:12:46,169 --> 00:12:50,869 that, but, but we can provide a platform that folks can access, I'm talking about 252 00:12:50,909 --> 00:12:56,629 kids specifically, can access to get information or refer them to, number one. 253 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:02,404 Number two, that there's a gentleman by the name of Chavarria, As I mentioned, 254 00:13:02,414 --> 00:13:07,494 is he's a, a college math mentor, and I'd never heard of college math mentors, 255 00:13:07,774 --> 00:13:13,294 but his job is that he contacts college students either right before they go to 256 00:13:13,294 --> 00:13:15,644 college or during college and helps them. 257 00:13:15,864 --> 00:13:20,304 It advises them with difficult situations, you know, difficulties. 258 00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:23,994 I never heard of that, but I will put you in touch with him give 259 00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:25,654 you his information, vice versa. 260 00:13:25,854 --> 00:13:30,624 And so you guys can talk and maybe you guys can do something to help each other. 261 00:13:30,884 --> 00:13:33,284 You know, he's a graduate of Walnut high school. 262 00:13:33,654 --> 00:13:37,584 I met him back when I was mayor and he remembered me. 263 00:13:37,844 --> 00:13:42,344 And we just started talking and, and then I, you know, I'm having him do 264 00:13:42,344 --> 00:13:46,904 some podcasts with us, but, but he's, he's working in the same area that 265 00:13:46,904 --> 00:13:48,744 can help, they can help with that. 266 00:13:49,034 --> 00:13:54,494 But, but specifically we can focus on the kids that we see the most, 267 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:59,434 which to some extent, kids at church, other places and provide these things 268 00:13:59,434 --> 00:14:00,004 Keith Hansen: for them. 269 00:14:00,484 --> 00:14:02,274 I think you're, you're exactly right. 270 00:14:02,314 --> 00:14:02,714 I have. 271 00:14:04,214 --> 00:14:08,354 Some of our kids at church I tried to hold on one second here. 272 00:14:09,244 --> 00:14:11,064 Let me tell my wife, we're still doing this one. 273 00:14:11,914 --> 00:14:12,224 Okay. 274 00:14:12,224 --> 00:14:12,764 Tell her we're 275 00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:13,404 Dr. William T Choctaw: almost done. 276 00:14:22,734 --> 00:14:23,144 Keith Hansen: Okay. 277 00:14:23,144 --> 00:14:24,054 She said, Oh, wow. 278 00:14:24,054 --> 00:14:24,624 I forgot. 279 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:28,924 Anyway I've acquired different people that can help kids. 280 00:14:28,934 --> 00:14:31,634 Like I tell some of our kids I was telling some of the other week, if you 281 00:14:31,634 --> 00:14:36,059 have any needs Academically get help as soon as you realize there's a problem. 282 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:37,589 Don't wait till it's too late. 283 00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:41,859 One of the boys he was telling me he had problems with his spanish and one of my 284 00:14:41,859 --> 00:14:46,794 nieces that was here She's learned spanish And she said, I'll help you with it. 285 00:14:46,794 --> 00:14:49,434 So she gave him her phone number and I says, you work with him. 286 00:14:49,434 --> 00:14:54,804 And then my daughter Jada speaks fluent Spanish and writes fluent Spanish. 287 00:14:55,214 --> 00:14:57,184 And so she said she would help him. 288 00:14:57,434 --> 00:15:00,664 So when we find resources, I try to put the kids connected with them. 289 00:15:00,924 --> 00:15:03,224 I have a couple of math teachers that help my son. 290 00:15:03,854 --> 00:15:07,324 One of my friend's daughter and she's got a master's degree in math and she 291 00:15:07,364 --> 00:15:11,044 has helped in matter of fact, some of the kids that I mentioned earlier, she's 292 00:15:11,054 --> 00:15:14,844 working with them now teaching them and then another lady Jasmine wall. 293 00:15:14,844 --> 00:15:16,254 She's a mechanical engineer. 294 00:15:16,584 --> 00:15:17,924 She has a math club. 295 00:15:17,924 --> 00:15:18,474 She has. 296 00:15:19,144 --> 00:15:22,844 Okay, she has a business where she does this tutoring and helping kids. 297 00:15:23,134 --> 00:15:27,704 She has a Friday night math party on a website for the kids and she 298 00:15:27,704 --> 00:15:31,664 makes it fun and exciting, but she does tutoring individual all these 299 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:32,764 things when we have them together. 300 00:15:32,764 --> 00:15:33,984 I'm going to I'll share with you. 301 00:15:33,984 --> 00:15:35,884 I'll share with you about the different scholarships. 302 00:15:35,914 --> 00:15:36,324 Okay. 303 00:15:36,424 --> 00:15:36,914 Okay. 304 00:15:37,214 --> 00:15:39,624 Dr. William T Choctaw: And so we can put all that on the website. 305 00:15:39,924 --> 00:15:43,884 And so there's a place that they can go to just get information, 306 00:15:43,894 --> 00:15:48,174 you know, because this is the age of technology and AI and all that. 307 00:15:48,394 --> 00:15:50,344 And we can do that. 308 00:15:50,374 --> 00:15:50,724 We can 309 00:15:50,724 --> 00:15:50,874 Keith Hansen: do that. 310 00:15:50,874 --> 00:15:51,784 Yes. 311 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:52,864 So there's a lot of resources. 312 00:15:54,019 --> 00:15:58,269 I had told you one of the things and I'm going to try to do it with my SQL, 313 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:01,999 a database that I wanted to make, and I haven't got to, I just got some stuff 314 00:16:01,999 --> 00:16:05,929 for how to make it work the other day, and I've got to make it happen, but I 315 00:16:05,929 --> 00:16:08,399 need to create a database of careers. 316 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:12,109 Our kids, even in our church alone, there's so many people that have 317 00:16:12,109 --> 00:16:15,769 careers that they never even knew of, thought about, they need to know. 318 00:16:15,769 --> 00:16:17,029 They need to know. 319 00:16:17,319 --> 00:16:19,599 Dr. William T Choctaw: You know, the attorneys that I know at St. 320 00:16:19,599 --> 00:16:23,909 Stephen's who've been there for years who, who worked with me and vice versa. 321 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:28,979 And right, we, we have assets that we don't know about constantly. 322 00:16:28,979 --> 00:16:30,469 We don't utilize those assets. 323 00:16:30,739 --> 00:16:33,819 And, and so I, we, we can, we can help with that. 324 00:16:33,869 --> 00:16:34,949 We, we can help with that. 325 00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:35,419 I think 326 00:16:35,419 --> 00:16:38,419 Keith Hansen: it's, I think it's a great thing again, like you said, and we said, 327 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:42,439 when you see people doing things that you think of and you say, well, I don't 328 00:16:42,439 --> 00:16:44,119 know if that's available or whatever. 329 00:16:44,419 --> 00:16:49,999 My kids we were there at in a community hospital and we were walking down 330 00:16:49,999 --> 00:16:53,209 the hall and they recognized your picture on the wall and they flipped 331 00:16:53,209 --> 00:16:55,809 out and they were like, Oh, that's Dr. 332 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:56,069 Choctaw. 333 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:58,159 And again. 334 00:16:58,629 --> 00:17:01,089 Seeing what it was there for and this, that, and the other, once 335 00:17:01,089 --> 00:17:04,409 you explain to them, they're like, this is a believable thing. 336 00:17:04,769 --> 00:17:08,109 I was at Queen of the Valley, your old stomping grounds there. 337 00:17:08,439 --> 00:17:09,709 And I don't know if you know, Dr. 338 00:17:09,709 --> 00:17:10,389 Hatchinova. 339 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,799 I was with him because my father in law. 340 00:17:13,149 --> 00:17:14,279 had an issue. 341 00:17:14,529 --> 00:17:17,749 He went to the hospital and I've gotten because of so many 342 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,149 things, real into medical stuff. 343 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:21,989 He was sitting there for another purpose and I'm watching his 344 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:23,459 EKG and he's going bradycardic. 345 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:28,629 His heart's going real slow and then it speeds up and he was saying he felt fine. 346 00:17:28,994 --> 00:17:29,804 So then when Dr. 347 00:17:29,804 --> 00:17:33,604 Hatchinova found out, he's like, Oh, no, we've got to get a pacemaker in there. 348 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:37,784 When they went to do that, the kids from Medtronics, these two young kids 349 00:17:37,794 --> 00:17:39,884 that brought all this equipment in there and they were getting ready to 350 00:17:39,894 --> 00:17:41,384 go in there and put this pacemaker in. 351 00:17:41,674 --> 00:17:45,014 So I got their business cards and I was saying, these are the kind of things 352 00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:49,254 our kids need to learn about these kind of jobs and get into these careers. 353 00:17:49,304 --> 00:17:50,864 One of my daughter's friends, she. 354 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:55,384 Was a biology major, I believe, at UC Irvine, and I just turned her on to 355 00:17:55,394 --> 00:17:59,414 meeting those people and exposing her to that so she can dive into those kind of 356 00:17:59,414 --> 00:18:03,984 career fields that again, our kids don't know anything about stuff like that. 357 00:18:04,014 --> 00:18:05,824 I used to do biomed and love it. 358 00:18:06,054 --> 00:18:10,784 So that's why when I saw that, I said, wow, this is something you know, I worked 359 00:18:10,784 --> 00:18:12,464 with surgical equipment and this and that. 360 00:18:12,464 --> 00:18:15,924 And again, a lot of all these things that I learned were from 361 00:18:15,924 --> 00:18:17,104 what I learned in the Air Force. 362 00:18:17,144 --> 00:18:17,894 I'll say this real quick. 363 00:18:18,084 --> 00:18:18,884 It would be done in 364 00:18:18,884 --> 00:18:19,594 Dr. William T Choctaw: surgery. 365 00:18:19,644 --> 00:18:23,704 I, you know, our surgical assistants, the scrub techs were, were military. 366 00:18:23,804 --> 00:18:25,754 They served in the 70s and the 80s. 367 00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:27,044 They were all military. 368 00:18:27,334 --> 00:18:28,044 Keith Hansen: Wow. 369 00:18:28,094 --> 00:18:28,334 Yeah. 370 00:18:28,334 --> 00:18:29,034 That is amazing. 371 00:18:29,454 --> 00:18:29,864 Oh, absolutely. 372 00:18:30,774 --> 00:18:33,464 The job that I got when I, real quick, and it'll be done. 373 00:18:33,844 --> 00:18:37,974 From the biomedical stuff that I learned about or that I did when I got out of 374 00:18:37,974 --> 00:18:41,564 the Air Force I studied electronics, avionics and stuff in the Air Force, 375 00:18:41,564 --> 00:18:42,914 and it was like going to college. 376 00:18:42,954 --> 00:18:45,824 The stuff that I learned was equal to like a two year degree. 377 00:18:46,314 --> 00:18:51,359 So then, when I got out of the Air Force, I went to DeVry and to Zeus Pacific and 378 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,744 kept going with computers and electronics, but I had an opportunity to work. 379 00:18:56,074 --> 00:19:00,254 With a guy who had a medical contract for Queen of the Valley Foothill 380 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,164 Press and Intercommunity doing Biomed. 381 00:19:02,844 --> 00:19:06,874 I my son Joshua was a premature baby and I saw him in the NICU 382 00:19:07,274 --> 00:19:09,714 with all this equipment hooked up and I said, that is phenomenal. 383 00:19:09,714 --> 00:19:10,874 I would love to work on that. 384 00:19:10,874 --> 00:19:14,254 One of the nurses took and introduced me to the people who did it. 385 00:19:15,714 --> 00:19:16,674 Talking to that guy. 386 00:19:16,684 --> 00:19:19,794 This is how God, God hears it and makes it happen. 387 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:23,134 He introduced, she introduced me to that guy and I started talking with him. 388 00:19:23,134 --> 00:19:24,424 He said, we need some help right now. 389 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:24,984 I said, really? 390 00:19:25,229 --> 00:19:27,509 He said, here's the owner's name, Vince De Palma. 391 00:19:27,509 --> 00:19:28,079 Call him. 392 00:19:28,389 --> 00:19:31,439 I called him, never met him on the phone, send him a resume showing 393 00:19:31,439 --> 00:19:32,709 what I did in the Air Force. 394 00:19:32,899 --> 00:19:37,069 This guy hired me over the phone, never saw him, hired me over the phone. 395 00:19:37,069 --> 00:19:39,349 And I started going to Queen of the Valley, Footeo Press and Intercommunity. 396 00:19:40,339 --> 00:19:43,419 And from what they taught me, I dived in there, grabbed the books 397 00:19:43,419 --> 00:19:47,119 and stuff, ordering parts and start working on that stuff from surgical 398 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,839 equipment to ICU stuff, to ventilators. 399 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:54,024 Was doing it but it was all from what I learned in the military that equipped me 400 00:19:54,024 --> 00:19:58,304 that I was able to dive in there Hit the ground and I know one place at fudeo press 401 00:19:58,304 --> 00:20:01,994 I caught some opposition because there was nobody there that looked like me Right 402 00:20:01,994 --> 00:20:03,324 and some of the guys in the engineering 403 00:20:04,214 --> 00:20:05,874 Dr. William T Choctaw: More conservative of the three that 404 00:20:05,874 --> 00:20:07,114 you mentioned of the three. 405 00:20:07,124 --> 00:20:07,744 Oh man. 406 00:20:08,124 --> 00:20:08,324 It was the 407 00:20:08,324 --> 00:20:09,284 Keith Hansen: most conservative. 408 00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:10,944 Yeah Interesting. 409 00:20:10,974 --> 00:20:12,244 I don't know if you know dr. 410 00:20:12,244 --> 00:20:15,314 Bracey Yes, I do. 411 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:18,204 I got to know her well from going in and out of surgery and working on 412 00:20:18,204 --> 00:20:21,024 the equipment and her and I were the only two that look like us there. 413 00:20:21,204 --> 00:20:23,574 Yeah, the doctors and people. 414 00:20:23,884 --> 00:20:24,874 It was very interesting. 415 00:20:24,874 --> 00:20:27,184 Some of the things that happened as a result of it. 416 00:20:27,284 --> 00:20:32,204 You know, but it was a blessing to be in that realm and help people 417 00:20:32,214 --> 00:20:35,354 help patients, some of the labor and delivery equipment I work with. 418 00:20:35,354 --> 00:20:39,874 I got to minister to the people as well as work on the equipment is very rewarding. 419 00:20:40,154 --> 00:20:44,714 So I say that to say that sometimes stuff that you learn can propel you into areas 420 00:20:44,724 --> 00:20:46,589 that you never thought in your life. 421 00:20:47,019 --> 00:20:48,969 I always tell the kids, if you stay ready, you don't have to 422 00:20:48,969 --> 00:20:50,274 get ready, so, right, right. 423 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:50,999 If you do good 424 00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,664 Dr. William T Choctaw: preparation, but one of that I have learned in 425 00:20:52,664 --> 00:20:57,064 the last 10, 15 years that I never appreciated before was networking. 426 00:20:57,674 --> 00:20:58,154 Yes. 427 00:20:58,634 --> 00:21:00,134 Well, I used to minimize ice. 428 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,544 I, no, I don't do that stuff. 429 00:21:01,544 --> 00:21:02,324 Whatever, whatever. 430 00:21:02,534 --> 00:21:08,694 But the reality is it's an efficiency mass method that allows you to get more done. 431 00:21:08,899 --> 00:21:11,479 As a team, then you can't buy yourself. 432 00:21:11,529 --> 00:21:16,199 I like to always say you can be very, very good as as as an individual, 433 00:21:16,539 --> 00:21:20,539 but you can't be excellent as an excellent comes from the team. 434 00:21:20,999 --> 00:21:24,389 And so what I've learned is to embrace teamwork. 435 00:21:25,254 --> 00:21:27,564 As a net on a networking platform. 436 00:21:27,794 --> 00:21:31,424 And so the work that you're doing and that sort of thing and people like 437 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:36,444 you're doing that we can connect with you, you know, give you a platform 438 00:21:36,774 --> 00:21:40,724 to communicate whatever you want to communicate and still achieve the 439 00:21:40,724 --> 00:21:42,154 same goals because we all want the 440 00:21:42,484 --> 00:21:43,104 Keith Hansen: same thing. 441 00:21:43,704 --> 00:21:47,854 I think when you said about networking, networking again, like you said, 442 00:21:47,854 --> 00:21:51,744 I heard of it and thought of it before, but never learned until the 443 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:53,494 last few years, the power of it. 444 00:21:53,969 --> 00:21:55,459 Networking and delegating. 445 00:21:55,639 --> 00:21:59,209 Sometimes when you have certain things to do, when we did the church anniversary 446 00:21:59,219 --> 00:22:03,799 years ago, we were asked to help do it, my wife and I, and my wife was first and 447 00:22:03,809 --> 00:22:05,269 she was overwhelmed with all this stuff. 448 00:22:05,269 --> 00:22:08,669 And I had learned from a lady from second Baptist Renee Willis, because 449 00:22:08,669 --> 00:22:11,659 we worked with the African American employees association at work. 450 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:15,059 And we did all these events, but she learned to delegate and give stuff 451 00:22:15,059 --> 00:22:16,449 to the right people and get it done. 452 00:22:16,449 --> 00:22:19,139 That made everything work together and lighten the load off of her. 453 00:22:19,929 --> 00:22:21,229 Recently, I just learned. 454 00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:25,959 In the situation where my son has stage three esophagus cancer by networking with 455 00:22:25,979 --> 00:22:28,109 people, we got access to so many things. 456 00:22:28,109 --> 00:22:32,319 One in particular, I happen to network with Sister Nickens, 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,519 who works at City of Hope. 458 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:38,459 And by networking with her, opened my son up to a contact and connection 459 00:22:38,459 --> 00:22:42,269 of treatments and help and this and therapy, it has been phenomenal. 460 00:22:42,389 --> 00:22:46,449 So the power of networking sometimes can put you in touch with things that. 461 00:22:46,729 --> 00:22:49,109 Make stuff happen that you could have never done on your own. 462 00:22:49,109 --> 00:22:51,109 And that's what happened in that case. 463 00:22:51,539 --> 00:22:53,279 There's power and networking is phenomenal. 464 00:22:53,869 --> 00:22:54,729 Dr. William T Choctaw: Absolutely. 465 00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:59,679 Well, you know, Keith, we are, we are absolutely delighted again with you 466 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:01,839 sharing your very precious time with us. 467 00:23:02,199 --> 00:23:05,749 And certainly, you know, in terms of some of the things we talked about 468 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:08,644 moving forward, because I really, really, really, really, really appreciate it. 469 00:23:08,934 --> 00:23:12,564 Want to set something up that we can help the youth and get going, 470 00:23:12,754 --> 00:23:17,074 you know, don't be perfect You know, we'll modify we'll learn from it. 471 00:23:17,414 --> 00:23:18,814 You know, we'll grow with it. 472 00:23:18,824 --> 00:23:22,904 You know, it's a growth process You know when when Jess and I first 473 00:23:22,904 --> 00:23:26,374 started the podcast a little over a year ago It took us three or four 474 00:23:26,414 --> 00:23:28,574 months to just get some basics, right? 475 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:33,134 So I you know, we end that's part of the process but having said that we're still 476 00:23:33,134 --> 00:23:38,164 here I mean, the podcast is still here, and we can do things to help individuals 477 00:23:38,254 --> 00:23:45,284 like yourself by providing platforms, and it can be more than more than one area. 478 00:23:45,294 --> 00:23:48,554 I, you know, you mentioned a number of different things, and you know, Jessica 479 00:23:48,564 --> 00:23:53,574 can sort of help to decipher that and see what we can do and all that sort of stuff, 480 00:23:53,964 --> 00:23:56,884 Keith Hansen: but again, anything I can, anything I can do to help you. 481 00:23:56,894 --> 00:23:59,334 I'll be glad to anything I can share with you. 482 00:23:59,914 --> 00:24:01,364 I'm very transparent with it. 483 00:24:01,364 --> 00:24:01,704 I don't. 484 00:24:02,574 --> 00:24:05,134 If you can use it or give it to somebody that can use it. 485 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:05,934 I'm fine with it. 486 00:24:05,934 --> 00:24:08,104 I don't care if you can use it to get rich. 487 00:24:08,174 --> 00:24:10,833 I don't care what God is good. 488 00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:11,812 We're already 489 00:24:11,812 --> 00:24:12,301 Dr. William T Choctaw: rich. 490 00:24:12,301 --> 00:24:14,748 It's a good word about 491 00:24:14,748 --> 00:24:15,237 Keith Hansen: that. 492 00:24:15,237 --> 00:24:16,706 This is true. 493 00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:22,745 I, I, I, 1 of the things I really push and tell our kids that 1st and foremost. 494 00:24:23,165 --> 00:24:26,065 Make yourself available to go to college. 495 00:24:26,175 --> 00:24:30,175 And if you choose to, we had some that chose to try to do that. 496 00:24:30,175 --> 00:24:33,355 And it was after December and he hadn't done this stuff before. 497 00:24:34,105 --> 00:24:37,155 And so therefore I said, you force yourself and pigeonhole yourself 498 00:24:37,155 --> 00:24:38,405 into a different situation. 499 00:24:38,775 --> 00:24:43,945 I hadn't taken SATs, ACTs and changed from wanting to go to the military to 500 00:24:43,945 --> 00:24:45,325 go to school, and it was in December. 501 00:24:45,635 --> 00:24:49,595 I said the deadline for the UC Cal State is December 1st. 502 00:24:49,985 --> 00:24:50,425 So. 503 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:54,350 You know, but it worked out that person went to the military and 504 00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:55,650 he's soaring and doing well. 505 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,750 He's in the Air Force and okay, killing it. 506 00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:02,460 But I tell them, don't let money be a factor factor of stopping 507 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:03,500 you from going to college. 508 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:07,050 And again, if you study something like I said that meets those requirements, 509 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:10,630 even if you have to take some student loans to get where you need 510 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:15,190 to go, that's not a bad thing to be able I have a good friend of mine. 511 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:17,750 He's a professor at Mount Sac now got a doctorate degree, but 512 00:25:18,215 --> 00:25:22,485 Along the way, he and I were I especially was a campus clown, not 513 00:25:22,485 --> 00:25:24,005 a class clown, the campus clown. 514 00:25:24,015 --> 00:25:28,405 When I was in elementary, junior high, high school, just there having fun. 515 00:25:28,405 --> 00:25:29,465 Didn't take it seriously. 516 00:25:29,755 --> 00:25:33,125 But my friend, he went through and got his bachelor's, his master's, his 517 00:25:33,125 --> 00:25:34,555 doctorate degree, and he teaches now. 518 00:25:34,955 --> 00:25:38,565 But even if you have to get loans and stuff, you're in a, he's in a position 519 00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:42,095 to pay those, still take care of his family and survive if you have to do 520 00:25:42,095 --> 00:25:47,285 that, don't let these dreams of being a doctor, whatever be stifled by money 521 00:25:47,295 --> 00:25:49,285 and finance, it's a doable thing. 522 00:25:49,285 --> 00:25:50,525 There's ways around it. 523 00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:51,985 There's ways to make it happen. 524 00:25:52,195 --> 00:25:53,825 I'll give you an example real quick and I'm done. 525 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:01,338 Sister Thomasina, Thomasina she, I saw her when she and Chaz were 526 00:26:01,778 --> 00:26:04,108 fresh out of high school and they wanted to be physical therapists. 527 00:26:04,358 --> 00:26:06,628 And at the time you only needed a four year degree, just as they 528 00:26:06,628 --> 00:26:08,138 finished it, they'd move the fence. 529 00:26:08,198 --> 00:26:09,628 Oh, you got to get a master's degree. 530 00:26:09,788 --> 00:26:11,388 So they jumped in master's program. 531 00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:12,448 They moved the fence. 532 00:26:12,728 --> 00:26:14,228 You got to become a doctorate degree. 533 00:26:14,428 --> 00:26:18,808 Well, what she did, she took a commission in the Navy to pay for that. 534 00:26:19,128 --> 00:26:23,048 And so now she just graduated and now she's down in San Diego, Coronado. 535 00:26:23,418 --> 00:26:27,608 working there with the Navy, learning what she learned and 536 00:26:27,618 --> 00:26:29,068 getting it paid for at the same time. 537 00:26:29,068 --> 00:26:30,748 It's a great way to make it happen. 538 00:26:31,028 --> 00:26:32,168 The Air Force Academy. 539 00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:33,128 That's another way. 540 00:26:33,138 --> 00:26:36,158 You know, a lot of our kids don't know anything about that Coast Guard Academy. 541 00:26:36,648 --> 00:26:39,538 I don't know if you know more of our congressmen and senators. 542 00:26:39,608 --> 00:26:43,688 Kids get free education from going through the Coast Guard Academy, and a lot of 543 00:26:43,698 --> 00:26:44,898 people don't know nothing about it. 544 00:26:45,428 --> 00:26:48,598 They get their kids in there and let him get that free education. 545 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:49,368 Get out of there. 546 00:26:49,698 --> 00:26:52,708 And they have, they don't have no bills, everything's paid for. 547 00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:55,868 But our kids don't know anything about those things. 548 00:26:56,178 --> 00:26:58,978 Dr. William T Choctaw: And that's why we want to put that stuff out there. 549 00:26:59,488 --> 00:27:00,848 And we can help to do that. 550 00:27:00,858 --> 00:27:02,008 We can help to do that. 551 00:27:02,268 --> 00:27:05,898 The first thing they used to do in terms of education said, 552 00:27:05,898 --> 00:27:07,238 well, we weren't smart enough. 553 00:27:07,528 --> 00:27:10,688 Then the second thing was, we aren't rich enough. 554 00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:11,558 You can't afford it. 555 00:27:11,948 --> 00:27:14,848 You know, and so we get rid of that, you know, on and on and on. 556 00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:18,498 And then the rest of it is process, process, process. 557 00:27:18,858 --> 00:27:23,118 We can, we can mitigate some of those process issues by, by giving 558 00:27:23,118 --> 00:27:27,558 instructions, by giving information by providing it free you know, to 559 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,108 students and that sort of thing. 560 00:27:29,378 --> 00:27:31,018 And on and on and on. 561 00:27:31,428 --> 00:27:33,288 Well, again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you 562 00:27:33,288 --> 00:27:33,648 Keith Hansen: go. 563 00:27:33,958 --> 00:27:34,658 I'm fine. 564 00:27:34,728 --> 00:27:35,168 I'm fine. 565 00:27:35,168 --> 00:27:35,888 I'm enjoying it. 566 00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:36,868 I thank you so much. 567 00:27:37,558 --> 00:27:41,818 I'm honored and I thank you so for so much for allowing me to be on a professional 568 00:27:41,848 --> 00:27:46,118 podcast as you guys and I am an amateur, but thank you for allowing me to be 569 00:27:46,118 --> 00:27:47,518 in your presence and I'm grateful. 570 00:27:47,518 --> 00:27:47,918 We're all 571 00:27:47,948 --> 00:27:48,508 Dr. William T Choctaw: amateurs. 572 00:27:50,278 --> 00:27:51,828 No, but, but, but thank you so much. 573 00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:53,418 And I continue to be impressed. 574 00:27:53,418 --> 00:27:57,828 The more I listen to you with your passion, because I think it takes 575 00:27:57,828 --> 00:28:01,778 passion to really use it because that's what gets you through the rough spots. 576 00:28:01,858 --> 00:28:06,668 You know and we need leaders like that, particularly who 577 00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:07,878 are dedicated to the youth. 578 00:28:08,308 --> 00:28:12,218 And so whatever we can do to help you and that's what then 579 00:28:12,218 --> 00:28:13,678 we will continue to do that. 580 00:28:13,888 --> 00:28:17,958 If, you know, if you want to come back and do another podcast, just let us know. 581 00:28:18,108 --> 00:28:23,678 Work that out, but definitely we will provide a platform for you to 582 00:28:23,678 --> 00:28:27,078 speak to however you want to speak, 583 00:28:27,498 --> 00:28:29,768 Keith Hansen: you know, again, like I says, I appreciate it. 584 00:28:29,768 --> 00:28:34,068 And I'm glad that you're doing what you do to help change lives and educate people. 585 00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,793 and prepare them into greatness through these type of things. 586 00:28:38,203 --> 00:28:42,243 And I think it's a collective effort of the village, you know, 587 00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:45,703 with that village to help raise kids and take them to new levels. 588 00:28:45,883 --> 00:28:46,103 Yes. 589 00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,363 And I think we can all do a part of it to make it happen.