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Dr. William T Choctaw: Ladies and
gentlemen, we have a very, very
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special guest brother Keith Hanson.
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Who we've known for a number of years,
but who's been involved with some very
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unique activities, specifically involving
education and involving our youth.
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And because we were so impressed
with the work that he has done.
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We invited him to join us
on Healthy, Wealthy and Wise
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podcast, and he graciously agreed
for him to share some of that.
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This is about leadership, and
this is, this podcast is part
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of our Leadership Masterclass.
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And so our hope is that as you listen,
to the work of Brother Hanson and other
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leaders that you too will be inspired
to do something like what he's doing
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or just certainly assist him or help
him in doing what he has been doing.
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So, welcome again, Brother Hanson.
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Thank you.
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It's good to be here.
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Thank you., so what about the future now?
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You're actually here because you
made a presentation at the Men's
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Fellowship Council that impressed me.
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And I said, wow, those are good ideas.
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You know, I need to talk with this guy
and find out blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And so I guess my point is I think the
challenge now is that those of us who
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are of like mind need to work together,
whatever that means, to sort of help to
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solve the problem because no one person
can do it by himself or by herself.
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One, one of the things, a, again,
after that meeting the, the
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Chief Production Officer, Mr.
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Hammonds and I had a conversation,
we, we, we had a conversation and
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we decided based on that meeting to
start a pod, a youth podcasters club.
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That, you know, any youth, doesn't
matter what church you go to, where you
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are, if you're interested in podcasting
or learning about it or whatever,
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whatever, whatever, you know, contact,
go to our website and we'll get you
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information and start you on your way.
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That's great.
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Most of the stuff is free.
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You know, you know, like you can
start a podcast for like six months
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for free, you know, on and on and on.
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But that's just a small part.
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The more important part in my
judgment is the focus on education
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and, and, and the substantive things
that, that can be done with that.
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So, you know, how, what, what
else, what help do you need?
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To help you move forward with some
of the things that you're doing.
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And it's always, it's like the
stock market, it's always up and
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down, you know, and that's okay.
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Keith Hansen: Well, I think getting the,
getting the information out there I have
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some, and I'll share it, gladly share it
with you guys so that you can pass it on,
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do with it as you wish to, to brighten and
enlighten some of these people's lives.
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But again, to your point, some
of the things that I learned
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to try to help our kids.
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And it can be done anywhere.
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When I found out some of our kids that
things that they wanted to do, I tried
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to put them in contact with people that
look like them, that do what they want to
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do so they can know that it's believable.
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There was some that wanted to be firemen.
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I put them in contact with Mr.
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Fonville and some of the others.
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One of my relatives, he was a fire
captain for a Compton fire department.
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Matter of fact, he worked with Mr.
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Fonville and when they saw somebody
that they knew at church or whatever,
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it changed, it was very different.
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I used to take a matter of fact,
one of the ones I did with Doris
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Simpson's daughter and Patrick's son
when they graduated college, which
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I had talked with them and stuff
before, but when they graduated
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college, one had a poli sci degree.
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And the other, I believe
hers is in marketing.
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I took them to my job with me.
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I work at Metro and they have.
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floors of people that do
all sorts of things based on
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their degrees that they did.
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27 floors of people.
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So I took them there and I took them
to the different departments where
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they could utilize their degree and
have them meet people, get business
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cards from them so they could talk
to them and hear their story, what
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they did and how they got there.
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And those things make a difference.
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There was one of the little girls at
church, she wanted to be a lawyer.
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So I took her there to see a lady named
Nedra Jenkins one of the only African
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American female lawyers that Metro had of,
I think they had about 15, 10, 15 lawyers.
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And I asked her before,
why do you want to do that?
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And she gave me these reasons, which
weren't good ones, but I had to
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take her to shore to meet this lady.
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And it made a difference.
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She was talking about, she's going
to be in court and do this, that,
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and the other, make all this money.
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But before you get there, I
asked her, do you, how are your
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reading and writing skills?
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I don't like to write.
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I read when I have to so she goes
in this lady's office and she's got
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stacks of books up and she's writing
she's typing and she's like, wow, when
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she started explained to her before
you go on stage at court you have a
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lot of this background stuff that has
to be done before you get the bright
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lights and glamour of going to court.
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And she was devastated.
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And then she realized
this isn't for me then.
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And so kind of like I tell some of our
kids now when they're not sure exactly
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what they want to do, I encourage them to
go take the ASVAB test, the arm surface
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vocational aptitude battery test for the
military, not to go into the military.
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But if you know, the three of us here,
anybody that went in the military, usually
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they get a job that they saw and do well.
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It's not magic.
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How it happens is because of the tests
that they take shows their strengths and
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their weaknesses, and they guide them into
careers and jobs where they're strong at.
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If they see that they suck at something,
they're not going to push them into
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that and let them struggle and founder.
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And so the same thing, once they take that
test and learn that I'm good at English,
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or I'm good at math, or I'm good at.
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Mechanics or whatever.
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Let's embrace the careers that utilize
those skills that are easy for you
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to do and you take it and use it
to get something that is scalable,
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sustainable and marketable and set
yourself up and you'll be fine.
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So yeah, there's, there's a
lot of things we can do again
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by sharing the information.
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I tell the kids again.
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A lot of them talk about money and
finance for college and worry about that.
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Like you said, and I said, if you,
well, a couple of things I usually
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do this presentation and it talks
about the three D's of success.
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And I draw this triangle and I tell
them about how a triangle is the
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strongest geometrical shape known to man.
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It can build and do wonderful things.
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I says, and on one side of
this triangle, you have.
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Dedication and the other side,
you have determination, but
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the base of the triangle that
makes it strong is discipline.
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And without discipline, you will
not be successful in life at all.
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It takes discipline to do anything.
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And especially matriculate
through a college campus.
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You have to be disciplined.
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You have to be focused.
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You have to be deliberate and
you have to be intentional.
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And you can do that now
as high school students.
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Take ownership of your education
and drive it where it needs to go.
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So
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Dr. William T Choctaw: I think one
of the things that we can do and
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again, you know we'll get approved
from the chief production officer.
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I think there's a lot of, I
think we can provide a platform.
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For you to communicate and in our podcast,
we're approaching 20, 000 downloads
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and this is why this is not just U.
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S.
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or California, but at the very least.
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We can get the word out and it could
be certain type of people who are
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getting the word out to certain type
of people and everybody else, but at
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least that can be done, you know, and,
and, and I think just, just in the last,
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just this month in terms of knowing
what you're doing and you're knowing
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some of the things that we're doing
and sort of merging some of that so
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that we can all help each other with.
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To focus on the youth.
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I, I just think that, you know,
you, you can't a group a race, a,
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a, a team, a culture cannot survive
if you don't focus on your youth.
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You, you,
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Keith Hansen: well, here's the thing.
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If you, if you look at others that are
thriving and surviving and excelling,
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they're doing something that we don't
do is networking help each other.
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Yep.
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Right now at the Cal Poly
campus, during the summer.
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There's so many programs they
have on there for Latino youth
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and this, that, and the other.
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And I was there.
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And it's like, wow, all these kids are
putting in extra work, doing extra stuff.
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But where are our kids?
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You know,
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Dr. William T Choctaw: I benefited in
the seventies, you know, in the seventies
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from going to summer programs in Nashville
at my high school, Tennessee State
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University had a summer science program.
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It's like about three or four weeks.
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I went there my first time ever
being on a college campus, and
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I said, wow, I really like this.
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But that then caused me to get
interested in biochemistry,
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which was my major at college.
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I told my kids growing up
summer is not relaxation time.
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Summer is time you use to get ahead.
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You know, you make up stuff.
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Keith Hansen: That needs to be preached.
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That needs to be.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I learned that.
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A lot of our kids is laying up
and being cute during the summer
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instead of putting in work.
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Well, I think it's, it's
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Dr. William T Choctaw: sort of what we
taught them and, and it's sort of what
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they're told that's expected of them,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Well, I, I think moving forward
and I, I want to be respectful
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Keith Hansen: of your time.
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No, no, I'm fine.
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You said something there about
this and here's one of the
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things again I did with my kids.
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And at first I caught backlash from
them, but then it became a way of life.
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Couple of things.
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Our, most of our stuff that
we did was at church, near the
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church, this, that, and the other.
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And it's at least 30
minutes away from my house.
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So I would tell the kids wherever we
go, whenever we go different places
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that we go, cause we were very,
very involved with their sports and
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this, that, and the other, as well
as church choir mission programs.
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So we were always on the road.
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I'd get off the train and
my wife, sometimes would
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give me one or two of them.
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I'm taking some, some, she's
taking some another place, but
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I'd tell them wherever we go.
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If it's longer than 15 or 20 minutes in
the car, you got to bring a book to read.
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She started them on
reading books each week.
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They had to spend an
hour and a night reading.
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And every Friday they would go to the
library and she would get a new batch
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of books for him for the next week.
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So some of these things that you, you have
to do, but during the summer I started a
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thing and I started telling some of my,
and it takes the work of the parents.
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And if they're not willing
to do it, it won't work.
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But I had a thing for my kids.
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I called it the summer success Academy.
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During the summer, I would have, get their
next year's You can go to the library and
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they have an accelerated reading list for
the next grade that they're going to so
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you can get some of those books and get
them early and get them exposed to it.
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You can have them write book reports,
you know, I used to have the youngest
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one she did a little basic one, the
middle one she did a little bit more.
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And my son, he had a complex one that
he had to do, have them during this,
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during the summer, pick some of the
books that you find out that they're
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interested in certain things to do that.
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I would get the next year's math.
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And right now there's like one
I don't know if you heard of,
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call it Khan Academy and others
that you can go to Khan Academy.
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Their next year, their next year's math.
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And and have them get exposed to it
and start to learn it before time.
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You can work with them with writing.
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I would give them writing
assignments and things like this.
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Sometimes they would want to do stuff
for the summer, go somewhere and I'd say,
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write me a paper and persuade me, write
a persuasive essay that why we need to
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do this or why I should, you know, and
they would say, Oh, dad, but they did it.
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And starting off with my son and then with
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it became that's the way we roll,
you know We I'll say this real quick.
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We went one time to a family reunion.
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We did a red eye flight to Chicago We
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we went to Pittsburgh and we drove from
Chicago to Pittsburgh is over eight
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hours one way Right, and everybody
said how did you stay in those in the
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car with those kids for eight hours?
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this, but we never turned them on.
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I had a math game that I play with
them in the car, a spelling game.
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I play with them in the
car on and on and on.
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It takes a lot of work
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So it takes a lot of extra stuff
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products that are able to do that.
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Dr. William T Choctaw: what
we can do, we can help you.
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We can provide a platform and
it could be multiple things.
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I, you know, I'll leave it up to you and
Jesse in terms of Which categories and all
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that, but, but we can provide a platform
that folks can access, I'm talking about
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kids specifically, can access to get
information or refer them to, number one.
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Number two, that there's a gentleman by
the name of Chavarria, As I mentioned,
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is he's a, a college math mentor, and
I'd never heard of college math mentors,
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but his job is that he contacts college
students either right before they go to
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college or during college and helps them.
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It advises them with difficult
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I never heard of that, but I will
put you in touch with him give
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you his information, vice versa.
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And so you guys can talk and maybe you
guys can do something to help each other.
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You know, he's a graduate
of Walnut high school.
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I met him back when I was
mayor and he remembered me.
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And we just started talking and, and
then I, you know, I'm having him do
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some podcasts with us, but, but he's,
he's working in the same area that
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can help, they can help with that.
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But, but specifically we can focus
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which to some extent, kids at church,
other places and provide these things
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Keith Hansen: for them.
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I think you're, you're exactly right.
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I have.
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Some of our kids at church I
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Let me tell my wife, we're
still doing this one.
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Tell her we're
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Dr. William T Choctaw: almost done.
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Keith Hansen: Okay.
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She said, Oh, wow.
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Anyway I've acquired different
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Like I tell some of our kids I was
telling some of the other week, if you
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have any needs Academically get help as
soon as you realize there's a problem.
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One of the boys he was telling me he had
problems with his spanish and one of my
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nieces that was here She's learned spanish
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So she gave him her phone number
and I says, you work with him.
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And then my daughter Jada speaks fluent
Spanish and writes fluent Spanish.
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So when we find resources, I try to
put the kids connected with them.
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I have a couple of math
teachers that help my son.
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One of my friend's daughter and she's
got a master's degree in math and she
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has helped in matter of fact, some of
the kids that I mentioned earlier, she's
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working with them now teaching them
and then another lady Jasmine wall.
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She's a mechanical engineer.
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She has a math club.
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Okay, she has a business where she
does this tutoring and helping kids.
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She has a Friday night math party
on a website for the kids and she
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makes it fun and exciting, but she
does tutoring individual all these
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things when we have them together.
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I'm going to I'll share with you.
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I'll share with you about
the different scholarships.
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Dr. William T Choctaw: And so we
can put all that on the website.
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And so there's a place that they
can go to just get information,
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you know, because this is the age
of technology and AI and all that.
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And we can do that.
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Keith Hansen: do that.
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So there's a lot of resources.
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I had told you one of the things and
I'm going to try to do it with my SQL,
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a database that I wanted to make, and
I haven't got to, I just got some stuff
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for how to make it work the other day,
and I've got to make it happen, but I
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need to create a database of careers.
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Our kids, even in our church alone,
there's so many people that have
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careers that they never even knew
of, thought about, they need to know.
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Dr. William T Choctaw: You know,
the attorneys that I know at St.
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Stephen's who've been there for years
who, who worked with me and vice versa.
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And right, we, we have assets that
we don't know about constantly.
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We don't utilize those assets.
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And, and so I, we, we can,
we can help with that.
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We, we can help with that.
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Keith Hansen: it's, I think it's a great
thing again, like you said, and we said,
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when you see people doing things that
you think of and you say, well, I don't
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know if that's available or whatever.
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My kids we were there at in a community
hospital and we were walking down
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the hall and they recognized your
picture on the wall and they flipped
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out and they were like, Oh, that's Dr.
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Choctaw.
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And again.
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Seeing what it was there for and
this, that, and the other, once
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you explain to them, they're
like, this is a believable thing.
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I was at Queen of the Valley,
your old stomping grounds there.
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And I don't know if you know, Dr.
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Hatchinova.
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I was with him because my father in law.
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had an issue.
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He went to the hospital and
I've gotten because of so many
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things, real into medical stuff.
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He was sitting there for another
purpose and I'm watching his
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EKG and he's going bradycardic.
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His heart's going real slow and then it
speeds up and he was saying he felt fine.
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So then when Dr.
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Hatchinova found out, he's like, Oh, no,
we've got to get a pacemaker in there.
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When they went to do that, the kids
from Medtronics, these two young kids
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that brought all this equipment in
there and they were getting ready to
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go in there and put this pacemaker in.
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So I got their business cards and I was
saying, these are the kind of things
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our kids need to learn about these kind
of jobs and get into these careers.
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One of my daughter's friends, she.
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Was a biology major, I believe, at UC
Irvine, and I just turned her on to
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meeting those people and exposing her to
that so she can dive into those kind of
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career fields that again, our kids don't
know anything about stuff like that.
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I used to do biomed and love it.
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So that's why when I saw that, I said,
wow, this is something you know, I worked
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with surgical equipment and this and that.
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And again, a lot of all these
things that I learned were from
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what I learned in the Air Force.
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I'll say this real quick.
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It would be done in
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Dr. William T Choctaw: surgery.
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I, you know, our surgical assistants,
the scrub techs were, were military.
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They served in the 70s and the 80s.
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They were all military.
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Keith Hansen: Wow.
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That is amazing.
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Oh, absolutely.
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The job that I got when I,
real quick, and it'll be done.
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From the biomedical stuff that I learned
about or that I did when I got out of
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the Air Force I studied electronics,
avionics and stuff in the Air Force,
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and it was like going to college.
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The stuff that I learned was
equal to like a two year degree.
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So then, when I got out of the Air Force,
I went to DeVry and to Zeus Pacific and
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kept going with computers and electronics,
but I had an opportunity to work.
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With a guy who had a medical contract
for Queen of the Valley Foothill
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Press and Intercommunity doing Biomed.
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I my son Joshua was a premature
baby and I saw him in the NICU
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with all this equipment hooked up
and I said, that is phenomenal.
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I would love to work on that.
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One of the nurses took and introduced
me to the people who did it.
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Talking to that guy.
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This is how God, God hears
it and makes it happen.
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He introduced, she introduced me to
that guy and I started talking with him.
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He said, we need some help right now.
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I said, really?
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He said, here's the owner's
name, Vince De Palma.
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Call him.
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I called him, never met him on the
phone, send him a resume showing
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what I did in the Air Force.
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This guy hired me over the phone,
never saw him, hired me over the phone.
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And I started going to Queen of the
Valley, Footeo Press and Intercommunity.
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And from what they taught me, I
dived in there, grabbed the books
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and stuff, ordering parts and start
working on that stuff from surgical
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equipment to ICU stuff, to ventilators.
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Was doing it but it was all from what I
learned in the military that equipped me
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that I was able to dive in there Hit the
ground and I know one place at fudeo press
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I caught some opposition because there
was nobody there that looked like me Right
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and some of the guys in the engineering
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Dr. William T Choctaw: More
conservative of the three that
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you mentioned of the three.
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Oh man.
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It was the
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Keith Hansen: most conservative.
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Yeah Interesting.
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I don't know if you know dr.
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Bracey Yes, I do.
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I got to know her well from going
in and out of surgery and working on
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the equipment and her and I were the
only two that look like us there.
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Yeah, the doctors and people.
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It was very interesting.
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Some of the things that
happened as a result of it.
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You know, but it was a blessing to
be in that realm and help people
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help patients, some of the labor
and delivery equipment I work with.
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I got to minister to the people as well as
work on the equipment is very rewarding.
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So I say that to say that sometimes stuff
that you learn can propel you into areas
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that you never thought in your life.
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I always tell the kids, if you
stay ready, you don't have to
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get ready, so, right, right.
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If you do good
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Dr. William T Choctaw: preparation,
but one of that I have learned in
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the last 10, 15 years that I never
appreciated before was networking.
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Yes.
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Well, I used to minimize ice.
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I, no, I don't do that stuff.
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Whatever, whatever.
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But the reality is it's an efficiency mass
method that allows you to get more done.
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As a team, then you can't buy yourself.
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I like to always say you can be very,
very good as as as an individual,
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but you can't be excellent as an
excellent comes from the team.
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And so what I've learned
is to embrace teamwork.
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As a net on a networking platform.
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And so the work that you're doing and
that sort of thing and people like
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you're doing that we can connect with
you, you know, give you a platform
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to communicate whatever you want to
communicate and still achieve the
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same goals because we all want the
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Keith Hansen: same thing.
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I think when you said about networking,
networking again, like you said,
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I heard of it and thought of it
before, but never learned until the
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last few years, the power of it.
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Networking and delegating.
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Sometimes when you have certain things
to do, when we did the church anniversary
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years ago, we were asked to help do it,
my wife and I, and my wife was first and
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she was overwhelmed with all this stuff.
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And I had learned from a lady from
second Baptist Renee Willis, because
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we worked with the African American
employees association at work.
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And we did all these events, but she
learned to delegate and give stuff
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to the right people and get it done.
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That made everything work together
and lighten the load off of her.
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Recently, I just learned.
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In the situation where my son has stage
three esophagus cancer by networking with
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people, we got access to so many things.
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One in particular, I happen to
network with Sister Nickens,
457
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who works at City of Hope.
458
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And by networking with her, opened
my son up to a contact and connection
459
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of treatments and help and this and
therapy, it has been phenomenal.
460
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So the power of networking sometimes
can put you in touch with things that.
461
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Make stuff happen that you could
have never done on your own.
462
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And that's what happened in that case.
463
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There's power and
networking is phenomenal.
464
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Dr. William T Choctaw: Absolutely.
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Well, you know, Keith, we are, we are
absolutely delighted again with you
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sharing your very precious time with us.
467
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And certainly, you know, in terms of
some of the things we talked about
468
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moving forward, because I really, really,
really, really, really appreciate it.
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Want to set something up that we
can help the youth and get going,
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you know, don't be perfect You know,
we'll modify we'll learn from it.
471
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You know, we'll grow with it.
472
00:23:18,824 --> 00:23:22,904
You know, it's a growth process
You know when when Jess and I first
473
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started the podcast a little over
a year ago It took us three or four
474
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months to just get some basics, right?
475
00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:33,134
So I you know, we end that's part of the
process but having said that we're still
476
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here I mean, the podcast is still here,
and we can do things to help individuals
477
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like yourself by providing platforms, and
it can be more than more than one area.
478
00:23:45,294 --> 00:23:48,554
I, you know, you mentioned a number of
different things, and you know, Jessica
479
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can sort of help to decipher that and see
what we can do and all that sort of stuff,
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Keith Hansen: but again, anything I
can, anything I can do to help you.
481
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I'll be glad to anything
I can share with you.
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I'm very transparent with it.
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I don't.
484
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If you can use it or give it
to somebody that can use it.
485
00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:05,934
I'm fine with it.
486
00:24:05,934 --> 00:24:08,104
I don't care if you
can use it to get rich.
487
00:24:08,174 --> 00:24:10,833
I don't care what God is good.
488
00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:11,812
We're already
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Dr. William T Choctaw: rich.
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00:24:12,301 --> 00:24:14,748
It's a good word about
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Keith Hansen: that.
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This is true.
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I, I, I, 1 of the things I really push
and tell our kids that 1st and foremost.
494
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Make yourself available to go to college.
495
00:24:26,175 --> 00:24:30,175
And if you choose to, we had some
that chose to try to do that.
496
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And it was after December and he
hadn't done this stuff before.
497
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And so therefore I said, you force
yourself and pigeonhole yourself
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into a different situation.
499
00:24:38,775 --> 00:24:43,945
I hadn't taken SATs, ACTs and changed
from wanting to go to the military to
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go to school, and it was in December.
501
00:24:45,635 --> 00:24:49,595
I said the deadline for the
UC Cal State is December 1st.
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So.
503
00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:54,350
You know, but it worked out that
person went to the military and
504
00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:55,650
he's soaring and doing well.
505
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,750
He's in the Air Force
and okay, killing it.
506
00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:02,460
But I tell them, don't let money
be a factor factor of stopping
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you from going to college.
508
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:07,050
And again, if you study something like
I said that meets those requirements,
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even if you have to take some
student loans to get where you need
510
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:15,190
to go, that's not a bad thing to be
able I have a good friend of mine.
511
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He's a professor at Mount Sac
now got a doctorate degree, but
512
00:25:18,215 --> 00:25:22,485
Along the way, he and I were I
especially was a campus clown, not
513
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a class clown, the campus clown.
514
00:25:24,015 --> 00:25:28,405
When I was in elementary, junior high,
high school, just there having fun.
515
00:25:28,405 --> 00:25:29,465
Didn't take it seriously.
516
00:25:29,755 --> 00:25:33,125
But my friend, he went through and
got his bachelor's, his master's, his
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doctorate degree, and he teaches now.
518
00:25:34,955 --> 00:25:38,565
But even if you have to get loans and
stuff, you're in a, he's in a position
519
00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:42,095
to pay those, still take care of his
family and survive if you have to do
520
00:25:42,095 --> 00:25:47,285
that, don't let these dreams of being
a doctor, whatever be stifled by money
521
00:25:47,295 --> 00:25:49,285
and finance, it's a doable thing.
522
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There's ways around it.
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There's ways to make it happen.
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I'll give you an example
real quick and I'm done.
525
00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:01,338
Sister Thomasina, Thomasina she,
I saw her when she and Chaz were
526
00:26:01,778 --> 00:26:04,108
fresh out of high school and they
wanted to be physical therapists.
527
00:26:04,358 --> 00:26:06,628
And at the time you only needed
a four year degree, just as they
528
00:26:06,628 --> 00:26:08,138
finished it, they'd move the fence.
529
00:26:08,198 --> 00:26:09,628
Oh, you got to get a master's degree.
530
00:26:09,788 --> 00:26:11,388
So they jumped in master's program.
531
00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:12,448
They moved the fence.
532
00:26:12,728 --> 00:26:14,228
You got to become a doctorate degree.
533
00:26:14,428 --> 00:26:18,808
Well, what she did, she took a
commission in the Navy to pay for that.
534
00:26:19,128 --> 00:26:23,048
And so now she just graduated and now
she's down in San Diego, Coronado.
535
00:26:23,418 --> 00:26:27,608
working there with the Navy,
learning what she learned and
536
00:26:27,618 --> 00:26:29,068
getting it paid for at the same time.
537
00:26:29,068 --> 00:26:30,748
It's a great way to make it happen.
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00:26:31,028 --> 00:26:32,168
The Air Force Academy.
539
00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:33,128
That's another way.
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00:26:33,138 --> 00:26:36,158
You know, a lot of our kids don't know
anything about that Coast Guard Academy.
541
00:26:36,648 --> 00:26:39,538
I don't know if you know more
of our congressmen and senators.
542
00:26:39,608 --> 00:26:43,688
Kids get free education from going through
the Coast Guard Academy, and a lot of
543
00:26:43,698 --> 00:26:44,898
people don't know nothing about it.
544
00:26:45,428 --> 00:26:48,598
They get their kids in there and
let him get that free education.
545
00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:49,368
Get out of there.
546
00:26:49,698 --> 00:26:52,708
And they have, they don't have
no bills, everything's paid for.
547
00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:55,868
But our kids don't know
anything about those things.
548
00:26:56,178 --> 00:26:58,978
Dr. William T Choctaw: And that's why
we want to put that stuff out there.
549
00:26:59,488 --> 00:27:00,848
And we can help to do that.
550
00:27:00,858 --> 00:27:02,008
We can help to do that.
551
00:27:02,268 --> 00:27:05,898
The first thing they used to
do in terms of education said,
552
00:27:05,898 --> 00:27:07,238
well, we weren't smart enough.
553
00:27:07,528 --> 00:27:10,688
Then the second thing was,
we aren't rich enough.
554
00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:11,558
You can't afford it.
555
00:27:11,948 --> 00:27:14,848
You know, and so we get rid of
that, you know, on and on and on.
556
00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:18,498
And then the rest of it is
process, process, process.
557
00:27:18,858 --> 00:27:23,118
We can, we can mitigate some of
those process issues by, by giving
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00:27:23,118 --> 00:27:27,558
instructions, by giving information
by providing it free you know, to
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00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,108
students and that sort of thing.
560
00:27:29,378 --> 00:27:31,018
And on and on and on.
561
00:27:31,428 --> 00:27:33,288
Well, again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you
562
00:27:33,288 --> 00:27:33,648
Keith Hansen: go.
563
00:27:33,958 --> 00:27:34,658
I'm fine.
564
00:27:34,728 --> 00:27:35,168
I'm fine.
565
00:27:35,168 --> 00:27:35,888
I'm enjoying it.
566
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:36,868
I thank you so much.
567
00:27:37,558 --> 00:27:41,818
I'm honored and I thank you so for so much
for allowing me to be on a professional
568
00:27:41,848 --> 00:27:46,118
podcast as you guys and I am an amateur,
but thank you for allowing me to be
569
00:27:46,118 --> 00:27:47,518
in your presence and I'm grateful.
570
00:27:47,518 --> 00:27:47,918
We're all
571
00:27:47,948 --> 00:27:48,508
Dr. William T Choctaw: amateurs.
572
00:27:50,278 --> 00:27:51,828
No, but, but, but thank you so much.
573
00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:53,418
And I continue to be impressed.
574
00:27:53,418 --> 00:27:57,828
The more I listen to you with your
passion, because I think it takes
575
00:27:57,828 --> 00:28:01,778
passion to really use it because that's
what gets you through the rough spots.
576
00:28:01,858 --> 00:28:06,668
You know and we need leaders
like that, particularly who
577
00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:07,878
are dedicated to the youth.
578
00:28:08,308 --> 00:28:12,218
And so whatever we can do to
help you and that's what then
579
00:28:12,218 --> 00:28:13,678
we will continue to do that.
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00:28:13,888 --> 00:28:17,958
If, you know, if you want to come back
and do another podcast, just let us know.
581
00:28:18,108 --> 00:28:23,678
Work that out, but definitely we
will provide a platform for you to
582
00:28:23,678 --> 00:28:27,078
speak to however you want to speak,
583
00:28:27,498 --> 00:28:29,768
Keith Hansen: you know, again,
like I says, I appreciate it.
584
00:28:29,768 --> 00:28:34,068
And I'm glad that you're doing what you do
to help change lives and educate people.
585
00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,793
and prepare them into greatness
through these type of things.
586
00:28:38,203 --> 00:28:42,243
And I think it's a collective
effort of the village, you know,
587
00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:45,703
with that village to help raise
kids and take them to new levels.
588
00:28:45,883 --> 00:28:46,103
Yes.
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00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,363
And I think we can all do a
part of it to make it happen.
