Exploring Black History: When I Met Dr. Martin Luther King!

0:00 I was at a real studio, so I don't know if you can see it. I see it. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't think you can see it. I don't know. I was literally driving by, like, something. What is it? What is it? What is it? What was it? What is it? What is it? What is it? What? It's on our first day of the holiday, so we'll do it. We are getting to it. I'm going to get you out of here. Okay. First of all, get you out of here.

0:48 See, now you're going to start ruining things, now, Jesse. They're going to pull me out. When you... So I'm like, what are you doing? I'm telling you, we're going to develop our own pretty hard. So we get settled. Yeah. And I'm very sensitive to the market. That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Which wasn't a decent story. And that's the whole thing. You know, when you're not a federal government, no, we're not, you know, you know, you're just a ballpark. and I just sat there and they named me and we just said about $20 and $80 a pound.

1:29 This is how long the world, I just got a client, you know, or New West, I don't know, worse. So we meet you there, you know, a lot of trouble. So I was like, oh, we're going to let you grab a chair real soon. So I was pretty, you know, I got permission, if you want to say. We didn't make me out of court. This is a revival film. I don't like the idea of going on and on, but I don't want to stay out of it. That's very nice. I think what I think is, you know, how God would say that if she's new, that she will cause it, you know, with the main ball system. Also, I didn't know. I'm sorry. But, you know, John was even doing his songs.

2:11 And so I asked, I said, would you want to just talk about this? Sure, sure. This is the result. We started. Yes. the answer and he's so i had to do it and we we had a we ended up at two sessions because usually we don't like her we don't like about bird mill it's something so we're very medicine we just made it a science session and if you know what it's just so not out of there thank you so much this is an attorney long dealer it's a lot of knowledge yes he does So I didn't go early. I said, where's the kids? I don't want it. That's what I'm saying. And that's that's the thing. How we turn it to the law.

2:56 Okay, they lack of re-administration, but you want to have people on that industry that was here and told us to do a lot of work. Once you had a gentleman there, I mean, you want the extra mile. You're just not content with just this. You know what I'm saying? You do what you can. They don't need their need. I mean, you're not going to expose them to St. Charles for a while, especially with women in the ministry. She didn't think that's how the price never from something there is. Oh, well, I don't do it. And what should be and I doesn't know. And I had you doing it. But I'm wrong. Yeah. And you know, so there is a lot there's a lot of it.

3:39 And what other systems to us for you watching us or something about you wondering about just the nature of our house. So yeah so just think about it and what do you want just just call me up it's all real lessons i got a chance to see y'all should get on even a ministry where to deal with, children you and y'all thought we should really really are now that's our heart you know there's actually all this on this you know the thing that's for everybody about an ASL to show you to anyone how to communicate with them.

4:24 It's interesting that you say that. Yeah, right. We already. This is what I shared and already I can't. It's all the same. Yeah, you are. I mean, you know, you don't have to start like that. And I do. So, you know, well, I see you can say that leading to revenue or so large interest. Well, I think that if it is such, you're not a machine in which you think we're sweet. I want to say to you, I'm going to say that we're easy. We said, yeah, by the way, he.

5:06 So, uh, uh, during, uh, we've, we've gone on to, uh, I'll, I'll let you see the podcast with Francis. Podcast with Francis. Right. Now, this is my, uh, but it's not, uh, it's not the solo. It's a brilliant double album, but it's a very talented, easy, sense of fiction. So I will hold on to it for a minute, and I'm going to give you a little bit of background. Well, well, there's my answer. Well, see, from my wife, she said, you know, let me teach him. I still said, God knows, it's not a certain that you're a whole. So you're all behind me. I said, this is studio. That's this channel. And why shouldn't we teach them how to be? You know, why?

5:49 I can't be a part of what we all do. That's the key with where they are. Well, I said, you know, every time we leave making the same saying, well, come over where I am, where I am, that's how I'm going to work. Can you follow? Which is a little more you. Okay, so I got to meet you. What do you want? And then so how often we get our team? But I love the sellers. Did you tell her about always the man? Did you tell her about the boys to miss? Yeah, I just I kind of I kind of gave I kind of gave my love. Yeah, I told Beth that that's this. He said, he said, that's it. That's it. And so we said, okay, well, so we said, I'm hard first.

6:33 Because when we began, if you even want to, it's a big sell. But we, we, we have our own. Well, hello. That was the first. In fact, I'm actually searching for that domain. Well, I look for the J.C. So I need to be very solid. And you know, I'm the same thing. You know, I didn't bother. I said, we need to. You probably don't. So what am I doing? What's your plan? How do you set up? You know, I said, yeah, he goes out the way he's out so we can do it. So he's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

7:16 Once. Shit. to shit. Just because, to your point, you're supposed to encompass a work in a line of with-free. Okay. For the youth. All youth. And I was thinking about this as I was dittling around with it. To your point of having a special section on the youth, four minutes or so, to make it available for, you know, forever. Yeah. It was that sense. But you know what, I don't mean racial. I don't know. I think you need to brush my teeth. I want that concentration on me. I'm done. Right. I don't mean you. I'm still in the hours. Oh, it's.

7:59 That's. You're saying that it's a scholar. Why would I do that to you? You know, that's the meaning of it. Listen. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I said, oh my goodness, you got in a conversation just like I have, and it's just being recorded. Post-production, I'll do the editing or whatever, you know, trim, fade, and on and on. So what kind of lessons have you learned? And all of it has been serious. And leaving women's latest show, whatever, you know, upwards of what they did. Involved it's to do together by 25 million church you said you know what i'll be i don't want to be in church you know i'll go over you know what would you tell her or me blah blah blah blah that absolutely doesn't you have that laws that we don't have and bring this down and say a casual christian conversation that's it that's it that's it that's it right there my father from christian conversation or animal or warm chatter yeah yeah that's all wrong they call it warm chatters but you're in the elevator and well did you know what happened the subtlety were casual working on the wall you know no chair.

9:35 I had no idea what I was saying. When Jackson Dax, the art viewer, was purging words in my story that all the stuff was beautiful, I had no idea. But it's been a great experience to see what was possible. I didn't know what I was talking about, you know, and I was talking to you, and I was like, I need to fix my hair. I said, I don't care if it sticks on, no, no, no. It's only $300, you know what I mean? And I was like, shit, you were sitting with me. Nah. What? I'm fine. Like I said, my husband, I need to go.

10:15 Yeah, I remember myself. Why? Well, I was sleeping. That's right. More than all. Yeah. It's from coming up. One was a beautiful day. Another day that the Lord had me up. I am Master of Center of Ceremonies, Jesus. But the reason that we're here is to hear a person who is uniquely qualified to present that material. And it's going to be very special today. Very personal. I've heard a few views on it, and you're going to love things you did not know about the host, who is actually very uniquely qualified.

10:59 He is a graduate of the Yale University School of Medicine. He's also a graduate of the Western State Law School. He's a medical doctor, and he's an attorney. Not Not only that, he's the former hospital surveyor for the Joint Commission. Excuse me, not convention, commission. I'm thinking of a conversation that we just had earlier about the Capitol Convention, but he is the former hospital surveyor for the Joint Commission. He's also a cheesy transformation officer, a man for the soldiers of the helpful arms. I mean, if you might have been familiar with the Citro, what used to be called a Citrus Valley medicine.

11:49 I've been, I've had surgery on my knee and I try to see things. He's also currently the president of Chantan Medical. He's also currently and still an author of multiple books. Yes, yes, yes. And he's also currently the podcast host of the Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise podcast. I'd like to present to some and introduce to others. I'll propose Dr. William T. Chata and the J. All right. Thank you. Robert Andrew Goff, Long Beach, Missouri. Good morning, everyone.

12:31 Phil Armaday. Thank you. Have a good trip, and we'll have a prayer. And our scripture today is going to be taken from Isaiah 24, verses 14 through 17. It reads this. Near him. Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me. Whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sin. Behold, I have created a smith that loathes holes in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work.

13:19 And I have created the wars, the ways that we need to destroy. No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper. And every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment, thou shalt stand. This is the heritage of the servants of the law, and the righteousness is of the Lord. May God be with us. Father. I might have to come for three this morning, Father. First, we just on a negative note. Because my father, look beyond our father and so I meet. You have blessed us with your marriage, spiritual, physical, mental, and financial.

14:00 You have brought us to this point in time in our life, my father. And we are here only because of you. So we pray, my father, that you open our hearts and put our minds and our hearts in being received what you have for us to receive from God's child, our father. Father, don't let us use the things that we hear and use the things that we learn by those that you have sent to us to give it to us, my father. So bless him, my father, and bless his meeting, my father. And let him be all that you want to be. And your daughter, St. Jesus Christ, holy Christ, amen. Good morning. Good morning. Welcome to Leadership Masterclass. I am delighted to be here and delighted to see all of you here and all of you who are out there on Zoom. We have a very unique and a very, I believe, interesting topic for you today.

14:53 In light of the fact that this is Black History Month, and I call it American History Month, but we'll make both first, share a presentation today that's part of my personal story that's also relevant in my judgment to Black History Month. And the final one is when I've had Martin Cage and we'll sort of start with that. I was a scholar many years ago, felt that there should be a special month for celebrating African-American history and Black history. And so after many years of politicking and going back and forth, they didn't even get a long pass through Congress to make this a Black history month.

15:42 As always, I like to start off with my beliefs, and we do this with every single Masterclass. And you may ask yourself, well, why don't you talk about your beliefs? Beliefs are why they should do things. There's what, there's who, and there's when. But many times it's important to know why you do things. These are the whys that I do things. And I started with you suggesting that at your region, that you have a conversation with the person in the mirror and say, why am I doing this? So why am I doing why? Well, why am I seeing? My beliefs are, I believe life is about being of service to others.

16:24 I believe it's important that all of us reach out and help other people. I believe knowledge is power, which is why we're doing these masterclass series. That the boys will know that the more you'll be able to do and contribute to others. And I don't think we just can change the world. If you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, you look at your TV and say, why in the world does this happen or that happen? I would suggest to you, change it. Do something. Figure out what you can do, what are your skill sets, and put them to work. As always, this is part of our Masterclass series, and I'm very grateful to you about the House of Doctrine, St.

17:06 Stephen's Missionary Baptist Church, in which I have been a member for 46 years. And to be able to provide his speech, I take these presentations to you. So we're going to talk about leadership. We're going to talk about leadership. And honestly, that leadership is going to be associated with one of the most famous leaders, Martin Luther King Jr. As always, I like to put up an outline. And the purpose of the outline is to give you an idea of what I'm going to talk about. But more importantly, to let you know what I've just about done. So we're going to talk about my mother a few times, and I mentioned her name before, Amanda. We're going to talk about my Christian mom. We're going to talk about Black fathers, because that's a part of our presentation today, part of what we're trying to get across.

17:53 We're going to mention the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 1964, arguably, in my opinion, they seem the most important civil rights act passed by the United States of America and signed by the President of the United States of America. And we'll talk about other things about it soon, so you may be familiar with anything. So, for 11 years now, we've been celebrating Black History Month during the month of February. Some people join and say, well, why is it celebrated in the shortest month of the year? I haven't been around. I don't like it. But I just say, again, look at all the parts that I think it's good that it's celebrated. I'm making it a good one. I'm in the 80s of the month.

18:35 That's a different issue. And it can go from Frederick Douglass, who was an abolitionist many, many years ago, who felt very strongly that African-Americans should be the ultimate scholars. And some of you may remember that there was a difference in philosophy between Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass. Frederick Douglass and Dutton, he either bore each other in Booker T. Washington. But St. Washington felt that a Negro, and I want to use the term affectionately, the Negro is just to be satisfied with where we are. We should be the best at whatever we're doing and should not try to get above, you know, where, in effect, God has given us.

19:20 W.E.T. de Morales felt that we should adopt as a volume as the President of the United States, etc., etc., that we should always be striving for more. And so that was a legitimate argument, legitimate discussion within the African-American community about what should you do and not do. Roger, what I'm going to take out of this is to talk about our own personal life. Now, part of my life as an abolitionist before, I did not grow up with a father. I grew up with a single parent, my mother, who was 17 years old when I was born. When I was born, she had to drop out of high school because when you're 17 and you're a girl, you get pregnant, you can't finish high school.

20:07 There was no made up there was no remedial anything so imagine if you know a 17 year old girl who gets pregnant as a child by herself and just imagine what that must be like so, brought up i said did not have a father so why would we make other falls i created my mind if i had a father what would he be like and how did he act and how did he treat me that And all of a sudden, the beauty of shit, when you can create it, then shit can make it better when you want it. So I did that. And to conclude it, and this is about my time when I was in high school.

20:47 I had decided on three things that I had heard about. Some I had met, some I had not. The first one was White Wolf King. And I'm sure a lot of people my age in the 60s considered him like a father figure here or would like to involve Eli Martin King. The second was a person named Dr. Isaac Miller. Dr. Miller was a professor of biochemistry. When I was in high school, I got an opportunity to study at Tennessee State just in the summer, and that was when I met Dr. Bullard. I was very impressed. And let me parenthetically say that if you are a student in school, in junior high or at my school, summer is not vacation time.

21:30 Summer is not vacation time. You're supposed to do extra academic work in the summer. Use the summertime to either catch up or get ahead. But summer is not alone to be vacation time. And the third person was Dr. John Lewis Powell. He was a pastor at my church when I graduated my school and joined church in college. What was very interesting about these three men, And then they didn't know each other was. I found out that they all belong to an organization called Alpha Phi. I didn't know what that meant. And Alpha Phi Alpha is a fraternity. I didn't know what a fraternity was.

22:13 One of the people that was most influential in my life, other than my mother and some of the school teachers, was my social worker. I was assigned a social worker by the name of Juanita Wall. And she was like a servant of the Korean. me. And so I would ask her, I said, what does this mean? What was also unique about Ms. Walker was she'd gone to college. Nobody in NASA of operation at home or church or whatever had ever gone to college. So I never got to talk to college people. I didn't know what that was like. But she explained to me, she said, well, you know, they're a group of people, they're men that are called fraternities and women are called sororities and they're social serving people that they they help folks and blah blah blah blah blah but what i started to understand was while i was in high school these individuals or helping people they would they they would they would give me $50 dollars they would buy clothes for me and i would say i i don't know that i i don't understand and she says well these are just things that they do so i said I said, okay, all right. I sort of let it go with that.

23:24 The other thing that was very unique about these three men was they all had doctor periods. Now, my mother had already told me at age five or so that she wanted me to be a doctor. So that was a given. And that wasn't anything that I really thought about. So I'm just trying to set this up in terms of where we're going. So, I have a mother who is my father and then I created fictitious thoughts for me or dream thoughts for me. And when I found out, ironically, it was they all belong to the same fraternity. Didn't know what that meant, but I sort of put that in the back of my head.

24:05 This fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha and Fraternity Incorporated, was formed in 1906. And fraternities and subordinates are only formed in colleges. Okay. And so I said, 1906? You mean to tell me there were black men at a college in 1906? I said, I didn't know that. Because the only black college was in 1906. And keep in mind, during my early years, we were largely silent from attending predominantly white schools. But what it told me was, and this organization was formed in Cornell University, which is an island school.

24:50 So, you know, it was just confusing to me, but I thought it was interesting. So to make a lot of this sort of make sense, I put in my timeline of high school, college, medical school, the long of what we're going to talk about, I mean, civil rights movement. So one of the ways to look at what we're talking about, this is American history. This is American history. One of my greatest subjects from high school, even though I was considering myself a scientist and all my way to medical school, was I loved American history. I still do. I still do. I graduated from high school in 1965.

25:30 I started Tennessee State University in Nashville in 1965, and I graduated from Tennessee State in 1969. I then started Yale Medical School in 69, and I graduated from Yale Medical School in 1907. So it gives you a time frame in terms of where I was and what I was doing. And so keep those numbers in mind as we walk through the rest of this presentation this time. What was going on in the country in the early 60s? So to you who are ginsengs and Generation Xers, talk to your parents about this because a lot of this will make a lot of sense.

26:11 But those of you who have made it home, you know what I'm talking about because you don't do just as much as I do, okay? I can remember in 1960, there was a lot of buzz about this new guy who was running for president. And his name is John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And people were all excited, at least in the African-American community, where I spent all my time. And that showed about, oh, he's more liberal, and he believes in equal equality. And the African-American community was just very, very, very excited. And the other thing is that John Kennedy, to some extent, was this controversial in my community. not among African-Americans that much, but among the white men of Seoul and in Nashville.

27:02 I think, believe it or not, it's because their biggest fear was, oh my God, he was Catholic. And they said, we have never had a Catholic president in this country. And what does that mean? Does that mean that the vote was done around the country? Blah, blah, blah. You know, it's just a lot of sadness. And my heart is that when you are afraid of something, you think of silly stuff. You know, it's just, it's just normal. You know, they don't really think of that. Needless to say, John Kennedy was one of the most famous presidents of the year, and his being Catholic or non-Catholic really didn't matter. But as you all know, he was assassinated in 1963. Dallas Saxon's robbing an open limousine.

27:46 Also, in the early 60s, there was a person named Benedict Everton, president of the the National Association of Colored People, NAACP, in Mississippi, was also assassinated. And fast forward from 1963, also in 1963, that was when there was the March on Washington. Remember that. This is the I Have a Dream speech by Martin Luther King, 1963. These things are very, very closely related timelines. Right. One of the things about the Martin Luther King speech was it was done in preparation to help to get a president at the time, Lyndon Johnson.

28:31 And Lyndon Johnson was president because Kennedy had been assassinated. Lyndon Johnson was vice president. And so ultimately, automatically, New York had become president. So this was happening at Sunday. This was in the early 60s, between 60 and 65 that year. year. I'm in junior high and high school about this time. When Warnie the Kitty gave his speech, as I have a dream speech, they stopped class in my house to all of them, and they huddled us all in the car, turned to watch this dick black and white glow. That's just a little white. They were not there with the rabbit beer. Some of them, be baby boomers.

29:13 You know what I'm talking about. You Jetsons, you ought to clue what I'm talking about here. But that's a daughter in Paris of reverence. And we watched the series and we were all just so impressed and elevated and oh my God, things are getting better and better. And at that speech, Martin Luther King stood behind, that's him sitting at the desk, and you notice all the pen on his table. And this is a tradition That continues to this day. When the president of the United States signs a bill, he uses a pen per letter. And that's why he has so many pens on his desk. And then he takes those pens after he signed the bill, and he turns around and he gives it to someone or some individuals who he believes have been instrumental in getting the old path.

30:05 And there you see him in 1964, at his time, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he gives this to Michael the King. Real quick, American history, I believe, as some others have summarized that, it's probably the most important piece of legislation in this country. Again, I'm in high school around this time now. The reason is that it has four components. One, it allowed folks of color to vote, to vote. And believe it or not, we were not allowed to vote. And they do things like they may have literacy tests. And keep in mind, most people, particularly African-Americans in the deep south, they not only studied, they certainly didn't go to college.

30:49 And so they couldn't pass the literacy test. And it was just a summer block. It was just a way to block folks from voting. Why? Because any democracy, the power is in the vote. So my point, very simply, is if you don't do anything, go out and vote, or vote online, vote in the jobs. The other thing was getting a desegregation accommodation in my house going up. If I went to a hotel, number one, I couldn't go to certain hotels. Number two, I couldn't use for public bathrooms. I had to go in the bathroom and stay in color because the others were reserved for white things.

31:32 You couldn't go to certain movie theaters and on and on and on. This is just the way I'm like. And this was all that we knew. And probably the most dramatic, and you may be familiar with this, is the schools were not integrated. There was this whole thing called Clessin versus Ferguson. It said, separate is equal. Well, what we know then and what we know now is separate is never equal. That's why it's separate. It's not equal. so so uh things that i grew up remembering and that my teachers at school thought all of us, is that you want the best in the death the best of the best not to be the burden that seemed the body to the level but keep your eye on the prize and go to the best of the best things and be that's an idling call that that was my understanding of what the best was so that is is my question.

32:28 I guarantee you I was not the smartest kid in my class in high school or in junior high school. When I graduated from high school, I had a 3.2 and 3.3 hours to be at. I'm not a good student, but I wasn't smart. I didn't have the highest GPA, nor did I have the highest GPA in college. So my point there is simply you don't have to work hard. You don't have to work hard, you got to know what you want and go to work. So I decided, again, I started at Tennessee State in 1965, the summer of 1965, and I had a place out of the fraternity in 1967, two years later, because my teacher was a sophomore at the pledge.

33:20 So I placed the fraternity two years later. And the first year, they end up being a member of the fraternity they call Little Brother. The two brothers are in Little Brother. I'm in Little Brother's job talk. Little Brother's job talk. So, now let's fast forward. I placed in 1976. So, this is around about our time of spring break, around about March of 67. Side and so the rest said you know what let's take a little short week yeah a lot of people you know jump on the planet and fly to the government or they they go to the wahamas uh, say let's start some family.

34:10 Oh my goodness so so we have our guys running around this little bus stand I remember what those little Mustangs looked like. There were five of us in a little Mustang. And we went to Atlanta. And it's mainly just the social life. I was a little boy. And, you know, we started doing what the big brothers were saying. Because they're big brothers. That's just the way it is. So we all went. That first night that we went, well, this is Saturday. Some of the brothers went out and, you know, socialized or whatever. But I took them to a state saving room. And I was one of the folks that stayed in the room.

34:53 But when they came back, they said, guess who we saw tonight? And we said, who? And they said, we saw Martin and Correa. And we said, oh, come on, come on. They said, no, no, no, we saw them, we saw them. At that point, I said, I'm near Medjugorje's church. I said, it means in town. I said, you don't understand. I can't explain it. But I doesn't understand. I mean, you're very close to it. And so we all talked about it. And it was cool. So, you know, so I found us a sign of the Wild Kings Church. And that's the final one.

35:36 And I said, we got to get there early. As you can tell, I still do that to this day. I like to sit there early and just sit and watch as the people come in, blah, blah, blah. You know, because I want to be in the ladies. So we all met, and we went to Ebenezer Baptist Church, Atlanta, Georgia. Now, a couple of things, history, very history. Ebenezer Baptist Church is not Martin Luther King's church. That's Church E. John. Because that's the sovereign's choice. It's the daddy king's choice. Right? And that's a whole different story. I encourage you. Read about Martin Luther King's fall.

36:18 And now I'm giving you an idea about why Martin Luther King did the things he did. Because one of the things that Martin Luther King got out of a Morehouse column from his bachelors, And his daddy said, you know, I want you to go and get another special degree. And out of that degree, being from a good, down-to-the-wild college, he sent me to Boston University. And that was where Martin King got his doctorate, Boston University. Thanks so much. I'm impressed. So, can anybody tell me, this is just for free, who's the pastor of the Baptist Church now?

37:01 No, he's a senator. There you go. His name is Raphael Warnock. His college is in the past. Wait, what's his job? Raphael Warnock. He's the first African-American senator from the state of Georgia since Reconstruction. Since Reconstruction. Not to mention, in fact, he's also an alpha man. But I was packing. In fact, I had a dress. I had a dress. Well, I've been there. So my wife's evidence is still there. One of the teachers is in Alabama. We're on the same side. You know, consumer, old security, the U.S.

37:44 But she was visiting that church. And the reason that a fraternity club was in my cell. Heck, it was in my house. Okay. Tell me God has not made them sad recently, okay? That's all. We went to this church, and I'm just on pins and needles. I'm here to see because I'm just so awestruck and everything. And I'm sitting in the church, and all of us sit together, of course. And we're sitting down in the middle of the church. Just inside the church, and you can tell from looking. And all of a sudden, Martin Luther King comes out. I have to look at the world, very quiet, a little dispensed. And he says, now, I'm going to put you in something called Poland.

38:28 Now, when you got a rebuild, it's called a hook chair. It was an elevation, what we call the one that sings. And then chairs on it, they're literally sent off during the entire service. A lot of churches don't have that now. So, the modern king came and he sat in a pool chair and used that three or four chairs. Not a lot, just three or four. And I focused on him the whole time. I watched every movie made. I didn't know I didn't know the same guy and so about 15-20 minutes or so other people came out including his father I call him Daddy King came out and you know they went to the service Martin Luther King did not give the speech at the sermon his father there so at the end of the sermon you know we're getting up and milling around and whatever and so we're all together and so they brought a vinci and I was And he says, and I said, okay.

39:32 So the five of us went to the bottom of the pulpit and the service was on them. And so we walked up the stairs and saw Santa around. So Santa means he must have been a tall guy. He's maybe about 5'6". I was starting to get interested, but I didn't realize he was that tall. So we were standing around him and I'm not tall. I can't see. You know, I've been to other businesses and seen stuff like that. We're brothers from Bayton-Omicron chapter of Tennessee State University, blah, blah, blah, and now I'm getting on spring break. And he said, oh, I want to introduce you to Little Brother Topper. And he turned and he looked at me and he saw the smile.

40:16 All right. All right. All right. Okay. The smile. I shook his hand and I didn't wash my hands for at least a while. But anyway, I came back to campus, whatever. And so after that, we, this is this is we're now in 68. And so three drinks in 68 moment. And so then we heard the news advisor to speak at Van Norton University, which is a very, very large, very famous university in Nashville, Tennessee, predominantly bio.

41:06 And so, of course, we all went on to see, to hear the dissidents' speech. And so, we, we, and it was an excellent speech. We were, we were up and around with, because Flintstones, God, you know, oh my goodness. But it was just extraordinary. The speech was extraordinary. And I just vanished to Martin Luther King. After that, Not too long, maybe about a week or two after that, finally the thing was assassinated. This is April 16th. The contrary basically exploded. There were demonstrations slash riots all over the place. Most college candidates, particularly the predominantly African-American college candidates, were just in rock and eggs over here, my campus, Tennessee State.

41:55 What was interesting, and this is is where the story takes a very unique turn here. My council is completely locked out. This is a picture of the administration building at Tennyson's Day. Every time I see this picture, I think of my wife. We went to visit a ten-city some years ago. She took a picture of this building, and I had her hanging in my office at home in the present time. But anyway, so riots broke out everywhere. They broke out on my campus in the National Bios, Colorado, and the National Bios was for the American community. on the campus.

42:39 And I was on the 6th and 7th floor of my dorm, and I could look out my window in the parking lot, and there was National Guard people with rifles lining the front lot of my campus. And so we, you know, obviously classes were suspended. The dean of students, Dr. Joseph Arthur Payne, Jr. He was very old, bad dressed. We all liked him, and we liked him when he spoke. He summoned me to his office, and he said, Mr. Charles Kelsey, back there, they call on them from this, okay, and Mr. Charles called, we need you to go with us, to come to a meeting with us.

43:22 And I said, we need you to come with us to a meeting in downtown Nashville, to meet with with the mayor and council people and the leaders downtown Nashville because we need somebody to represent Susan Bonner. And I said, Dr. Crane, I am not student council president. I thought he was a general. And he said, I don't understand that, Mr. Sargent. He said, well, student council president resigned. An idiot. When Martin Luther King was assassinated, he quit. He said, I am done with it. I am done with it. i will not just blah blah blah blah well i had been elected cinnamon council president i was scheduled to take the alpha junior i was such a thing almost my senior year, so i said i'm saying well i i don't know and in an event dr fayne said I said, Ms.

44:23 Chautau, you're a great leader. And I said, okay. So we went. The meeting. And you might can tell that the professors were very immersed on this thing. And I was a little person. I don't know. Little brother talked to us. Little brother, all these guys. And so I understood the gravity. I understood what he was telling me. And you know, and what he said, it made sense. He said, they need to be reassured that students at this college are not going to be increased. They need to be reassured that they can withdraw these National Guards, and their teams and not worry that something bad is going to happen and they need to hear it from a student leader they won't believe the professors because they don't think they know what we're talking about they need to hear from one of you guys, and so I went to the meeting and I said nothing and they told us and Dr.

45:29 Payne and his he's out of the way, but he made the case, you know, just very, very elegant. And so after the folks in downtown Nashville started asking questions, what about this one, what about that? So then they turned to me and in essence said, can you assure that Joe Simmons is going to go back to studying and you guys are going to be just supposed to be with him? I said, yes, sir. So you got to understand, you say, yes, sir, yes, ma'am. You know, yes, sir, yes, sir, no. You know, that's a different presentation. So then they said, okay. All right. They sent us back to campus. They did withdraw the National Guard in Tennessee.

46:12 And guys who could run and all that sort of stuff. And the administration, the leaders, the vice president, Dr. Payne, they did what they needed to do. Everything was done. Everything was done. So, yeah. That is another way that I was impacted by this whole thing in 1968. I didn't know what I was doing. I said, I get a letter and I didn't know what I was doing. But it just goes to show you never know. You are not in charge of this stuff. We are all actors on stage. And we don't control the both of us. We don't write the script.

46:53 We are not the directors and the producers. producers we are actors or people on a stage and as we always say god is in charge moving on the men are now around about 2010 and 2011 decide you know well there should be a mile for our trying to develop you know that this time we should recognize how great his name was and the people who built him and so it took him 15 years one file 15 years to get martin King Memorial Monument job and food and it is presently in Washington, D.C. now. So if you ever visit Washington, D.C., I would encourage you to go to the Margaret King Monument and it is the only monument for a non-military person in Washington, D.C.

47:45 It is the only monument of it for a non-president, and it was a no-joke for St. Mark's, you see. But the men of Alco did it. And just another example of. The power and the glory of when God was in charge. Let me say something here. They're from an American history fund. They're basically four African-American children and basically four African-American children. So Africa is not the only one. Africa is not the only one. In this church, you know, I sit here in the fund next to your brother who's retired from the L.A. Kingy, who's carrying out a sign. Teasing someone all the time.

48:29 Yes, and so whenever I say I love you, I'll only be wearing that dress up again, you know. So there we go. Our brother, Nicko, who the church photographer, and he may not talk a lot, and we see each other. You know, when Omega celebrated their founding day, I congratulated him. So my point is that we're a fantastic brotherhood. We've been in the brotherhood. That's what I'm trying to say. And this is how we get stronger and better. I was sharing with Margaret earlier how I had learned so much, like from podcasting and being in the Men's Sonnetson class. True story. In my adult life.

49:10 And this is why I say right here from Houston, I have never consistently been in a predominantly Black male group in my life until the Men's Sonnetson class. That's right Right But I would never So my point is That just being a predominant, Afro-American Class Is uniquely there Over 50 years I graduated from Madison School 50 years ago Okay, 73 So we continue to grow It's one of the problems It doesn't stop we continue to grow.

49:57 Okay. Almost done. Almost done. Oh, it should have been true. It should have been. That's me. That's me. You know, not too long ago, about 20 years ago, 50 or 20 years ago, there was another big buzz going around about this tall, standing kid from Chicago with a funny name. Little man. Okay. He had that. And you notice he wrote a book called The Name of My Father, which is so lively. He also had fatherly issues, you know. So he was picking a single brother, Clara, who had been forced to open, or whatever he had to deal with.

50:40 But anyway, he was interested in politics, leadership in politics. And he ended up running in Chicago, ran against Soviet-American Americans, and a lost visitor, just didn't write a job, but kept trying, kept trying, one time, two times, I think, and then around, I think, the second or third time, finally won that whole district thing, and then used that to then get to the Senate in Washington, D.C. He decided that he wanted Ronald Crosby. Now, you got to understand what the challenge today is. Not to mention the basic challenges of him looking the way he looks.

51:25 But his name is Barack Hussein Obama. Think about that. Barack Hussein Obama. Who in the world would love a president 49-0 with that kind of name? Right? it so i thought my heart is there will always be obstacles there will always be stumbling blocks, there will always be resistance so was so worse if you really want to do it you go forward so. This guy i started watching well this is interesting it's i'm going with these things so when he decided to run for president and he started while he was going through the process of trying to annihilate it on credit carding i said you know what i i i like i premiered i said you got a food you need you know the real deal right and i said my children you've got to win election in a predominantly white stage by a reasonable moment, Joel.

52:37 I said, if you can do that, then I'm with you. If not, I'll go stand on the sidelines and I'll wait with you and wish you well, but I'm not running against you. I'm not running against you. Did from there he won our car i was about 90 plus percent caucasian right that's okay i mean i'm just it's complete and so we we followed him on and on and on and on and on when i said we i'm talking about my best friend you're sitting in chat let's see right now uh so we've been involved so jay in November 2007.

53:19 Second Tuesday, my best friend and I were sitting there and she and I were watching the election result. CNN. Oh, Britsa. Okay. Oh, this is still the CNN. Oh, listen. Wow. But it's still there. And as here now, ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States is Barack Obama. We saw him jumping up and down and hugging each other and crying and screaming and yelling and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, then, I kid you not, I kid you not, she doesn't look scum. I kid you not, my mother-in-law went to me and said, I want to go to the inauguration.

54:00 I said, what? She said, I want to go to the inauguration. I said, you know how many children are going to be in the inauguration? Then you're ready. and watch the bc then one can realize it's right now you know the first thing during the second week in january she said i'm here i only wasn't in our race so i said let me see what i already so i called up mary we have a status or narrative and i said we'd like to go to the the rockabye and oration the second week in january said we'll we'll.

54:43 I said, look, thank goodness you're back to us. And they said, you know, we have some rooms in Virginia, right outside of Washington. And they're married and sweet. And we've got a couple rooms in the room. They said, Virginia is all about 15 minutes to Washington. Get on the train. Get down to Washington. Take two e-bikes. Get down to Washington. I said, dog, whoops. The best decision that I made in my life, best decision that I made in my life, it was like a picnic. We met people from all over the world.

55:24 And they were speaking different languages and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we were there about a week, and since then, in operation, and so on, standing in the foreground. We're sitting in that tall building. Look at that, that's the Washington vitamin. Now, we're not that far back, but look at this. You know, like a two dollars on the way. Which is where we are. Maybe you can't see us, but let us know. What a great day. Now, here's, Sam's place is a city where is the point?

56:05 There were one part taking millions of people It's the largest in the world. One hundred and eight million people. Uh-oh, it's the sweetest in the world. And priests there's a river of the time and that's when she came off and tried to live and say but what started worrying the only that i saw people in wheelchairs people on christ's old after america you know who said i i i can't get you wrong i never thought i'd see this in my life I thought, well, well, well, well, well. So, needless to say, we were not able to talk to Obama. I thought he was a fuck builder.

56:49 But it was the most relaxed, strong, how I'm going to get. And I've never been in a problem with this. The military was in control of everything. And we got to sit and post up on the race. And you could we have a nap of the race if we would run into the place well the praise of me and singing waiting for Michelle and the water coming chasing all nice understand and Barack's also in time keeping my ice man gets probably a hundred two thousand death threats per day they love think about that, I've got audience, and we're going to follow up on that. We're going to start all the other names. He said that it's a lie.

57:34 And when he means surgery, pick it up, pick it up. And so he's determined he's not going to start a war on the street. Yes, it is. And that's right. Right, right, right, right, right, you know, the most impressive part is that threats and resistance is based on fear. If you are afraid, if you're not afraid of yourself, now, bad things happen. I'm not saying, you know, we just went through a lot of bad things and have a lot of history, but so what? So what? And basically, that was sort of what my mom said, so what?

58:15 And so, needless to say, the rest is history. It's two tariffs, which I made it here. Don't fend it in the White House, including mother. No prob, no standards. Major legislation, one of the most important pieces of legislation that I talk about all the time, is the Affordable Care Act. Right, yeah. What do you mean? No, that's a good one. What are you talking about? Yes, yes, I did. And one of the things about Obamacare, particularly for those of us in the health care field, well, it's another thing. But one of the things is that it forced all hospitals and all doctors, all the systems and all the machines to pay without without any of this from the federal government.

59:01 It wouldn't have happened without threats saying, you know what? If you don't computerize by X, Y, Z day, we're going to start sending stocks and new Medicare payments. Most hospitals and doctor's offices could not survive without Medicare and Medicare patients. Because the government figured out that it pays the money. It was the money. Okay. So as a result, and so now there's one of the big things about old-bound care. Second big thing about old-bound care is it's sort of level of quiet. In this country, the biggest cause of bankruptcy is people getting sick. That team, the only civilized country in the world that has that.

59:42 Europe doesn't have it. England doesn't have it. Canada doesn't have it. You know, Asian countries don't have it because they have a centralized type of medicine. Right? Here is fatherhood for the Muslim. Now, we have Medicare and Medi-Cal, but a large part of it is fatherhood. If you have money, you can afford this. If you don't have money, you can't afford it. Et cetera, et cetera. Okay? Okay. So huge form of balance to the healthcare. And another thing that we're going to talk about a couple of weeks from now is the increased patient rights. Things like the best practice. I don't know if you've heard about it, and I have a dupli.

1:00:23 Inform them about what you need to have done to you can say operation when you as a patient have a writer to the teams you know the operation even though it's well yeah i'm raising the thing those operations can survive that's right so thank you doctor i was talking you're a nice guy and i like you and i'm like oh it's something but i don't think so about either someone i think i choose not to do. And so it had tremendous fundamental effect. So, winding down, God is at charge. These are my basic principles. I start out with my beliefs and I end up with my basic principles.

1:01:05 God is in charge of my life and has been. And you do not know the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I advise you or encourage you to seek out of his guidance and to follow his teachings. I know bad days I do not have bad days I've said it before I figured out about 30 years ago That days on the board of bad advice Says they were So I don't have bad days Don't sweat the small stuff And most stuff is small, You will find the things That you worry about And agonize over Usually are incidental And most of the time You have control over that And so you can stop.

1:01:46 Forgiveness is there for you When someone does or says something to you that you think is negative or you interpret as negative, forgive them immediately. Don't try to look at the facts. Just go ahead and do it. And fifth principle is everything is a relationship. Everything, everything, everything is a relationship. Relationships are based on three things. Mutual respect, mutual trust, good communication. In any case, if you handle the same things, you have a good relationship. If you do not, then you have a work streak. History continues. Where will you be in this line of leadership?

1:02:29 What will you do? I suggest to you to have a conversation with the person in the mirror, and you decide what's best for you. But the struggle continues. The legacy continues. I suggest to you, have a conversation with the person in the mirror, and say, well, what is my lyric? What am I going to do to make things just a little bit better? We all have that courage. We all have that right. We all have that opportunity. And of course, if you and I completely happen in the way the world is, you need the change that you want to see in the world.

1:03:14 Thank you. All right. Bye. Are there any questions? Very if they only made you stare at it for a long time oh thank you thank you, thank you thank you we're on a song you know, we're very good so we can thank all of you at zoom was anybody on zoom had any questions, okay have a great day bye.