Exploring Black History: When I Met MLK (Live)

100:00:05,940 --> 00:00:10,130Rev Andrew Collins:Good morning, everyone.200:00:10,130 --> 00:00:12,923Good morning.300:00:12,923 --> 00:00:14,319We400:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,550have a prayer.500:00:43,190 --> 00:00:46,269And our scripture today isgoing to take it from Isaiah600:00:47,110 --> 00:00:51,754chapter 54 verses 14 through 17.700:00:51,754 --> 00:00:55,103It reads thus, a righteousnessshall not be established.800:00:55,103 --> 00:00:57,870That should be far from a person.900:00:57,940 --> 00:01:04,560For th shall not Fear and from Fear,from terror, for it shall not come.1000:01:04,980 --> 00:01:10,020Nearly behold, they shall surelygather together, but not by me.1100:01:10,500 --> 00:01:15,360Whosoever shall gather togetheragainst these shall fall for th see.1200:01:15,855 --> 00:01:22,085Behold, I have created the smith thatbloweth the coals in the fire, and1300:01:22,085 --> 00:01:29,765that bringeth forth an instrumentfor his work, and I have created the1400:01:29,765 --> 00:01:32,805water, the waste that is to be stored.1500:01:33,515 --> 00:01:37,045No weapon that is formedagainst thee shall prosper.1600:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,900And every tongue that shall riseagainst the injured, thou shalt damn.1700:01:42,650 --> 00:01:45,639This is the heritage ofthe service of the Lord.1800:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,699And the righteousness is of the Lord.1900:01:50,420 --> 00:01:51,496The God of the best in the world.2000:01:51,496 --> 00:01:53,220And here we can do it with the Holy Word.2100:01:53,349 --> 00:01:54,249Let's go to the Lord in prayer.2200:01:55,070 --> 00:01:57,679Father God, I'm glad to cometo you this morning, my father.2300:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,820First, I just want to thank you, my Lord.2400:02:01,090 --> 00:02:03,800Because my father, he lookedbeyond our fault and saw our needs.2500:02:04,555 --> 00:02:07,208You have blessed us withyour marriage and spiritual,2600:02:07,208 --> 00:02:08,434physical, mental, and financial.2700:02:08,435 --> 00:02:11,075You have brought us to this pointin time in our life, my father.2800:02:11,575 --> 00:02:13,324And we are here only because of you.2900:02:14,155 --> 00:02:17,422So we pray, my father, to open ourhearts, open our minds, my father, so3000:02:17,422 --> 00:02:21,885that we may receive what you have for usto receive from God's child, my father.3100:02:22,445 --> 00:02:25,695Father God Almighty, we use the thingsthat we hear, we use the things that3200:02:25,695 --> 00:02:29,134we learn, by those that you have sentto us to give it to us, my father.3300:02:29,495 --> 00:02:33,024So bless those, my father, and blessthis meeting, my father, and let3400:02:33,024 --> 00:02:38,551it be all that you want it to be,and your God and Son, Jesus Christ.3500:02:38,551 --> 00:02:38,943Amen.3600:02:38,943 --> 00:02:39,335Amen.3700:02:39,335 --> 00:02:39,727Amen.3800:02:39,727 --> 00:02:40,119Amen.3900:02:45,380 --> 00:02:45,850Good morning.4000:02:46,420 --> 00:02:47,120Good morning.4100:02:48,220 --> 00:02:51,620Welcome to Leadership Masterclass.4200:02:51,620 --> 00:02:56,080I am delighted to be here anddelighted to see all of you here and4300:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,799all of you who are out there on Zoom.4400:02:59,279 --> 00:03:05,750I have a very unique and very, Ibelieve, interesting topic for you today.4500:03:05,980 --> 00:03:11,890Uh, in light of the fact that this isBlack History Month, um, and I call4600:03:11,890 --> 00:03:19,060it American History Month, but we'll,we'll use both terms, uh, share a4700:03:19,230 --> 00:03:24,449presentation today that's part of mypersonal story, uh, that's also relevant4800:03:24,530 --> 00:03:27,820in my judgment to Black History Month.4900:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,324Uh, and the title is, WhenI Met Martin Luther King.5000:03:32,265 --> 00:03:34,795And we'll, we'll sort of start with that.5100:03:35,195 --> 00:03:43,735Uh, uh, Carl Woodson, a scholar manyyears ago, felt that there should be a5200:03:43,735 --> 00:03:48,144mob, a special mob, for celebrating theAfrican American history of black history.5300:03:48,665 --> 00:03:53,385And so after many years of politickingand going back and forth, they were5400:03:53,385 --> 00:03:57,975able to get a long pass through Congressto make this Black History Month.5500:03:59,394 --> 00:04:02,615As always, I'd like to start offwith my beliefs, and we do this5600:04:02,615 --> 00:04:03,934with every single masterclass.5700:04:04,545 --> 00:04:07,935And you may ask yourself, well,how do you talk about your beliefs?5800:04:08,155 --> 00:04:10,545Beliefs are the why that you do things.5900:04:11,565 --> 00:04:15,234There's what, there'swho, uh, and there's when.6000:04:15,535 --> 00:04:19,644But many times, uh, it's importantto know the why you do things.6100:04:20,714 --> 00:04:26,045This, these are the whys that I dothis, and I started with you suggesting6200:04:26,045 --> 00:04:30,094you that at your leisure, that youhave a conversation with a person in6300:04:30,094 --> 00:04:37,514the mirror and say, why am I doingX or why am I doing Y or why am I C?6400:04:38,435 --> 00:04:41,865My beliefs are, I believe life isabout being of service to others.6500:04:41,935 --> 00:04:46,505I believe it's important that all ofus reach out and help other people.6600:04:46,830 --> 00:04:51,490I believe knowledge is power, which iswhy we're doing these masterclass series.6700:04:51,710 --> 00:04:54,619That the more you know, thatthe more you'll be able to6800:04:54,619 --> 00:04:56,560do and contribute to others.6900:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,849And I believe leaderscan change the world.7000:04:59,620 --> 00:05:05,259Uh, uh, if you're sick and tired ofbeing sick and tired, you look at7100:05:05,260 --> 00:05:08,150your TV and say, why in the worldis this happening or that happening?7200:05:08,890 --> 00:05:10,904I would suggest that you change it.7300:05:11,564 --> 00:05:16,895Do some up, um, to figure out what youcan do, what are your skill sets, and7400:05:16,905 --> 00:05:18,804put them to work, um, to help others.7500:05:20,650 --> 00:05:24,460As always, this is part of ourmasterclass series, and I'm very grateful7600:05:24,470 --> 00:05:26,927to you, uh, uh, Pastor Dockley, St.7700:05:26,927 --> 00:05:30,790Stephen Missionary Baptist Church,in which I have been a member for,7800:05:30,790 --> 00:05:36,050um, 46 years, um, to be able toprovide, uh, uh, this speech, I7900:05:36,050 --> 00:05:37,969take these presentations to you.8000:05:38,150 --> 00:05:39,920So, we're going to talk about leadership.8100:05:40,670 --> 00:05:44,220We're going to talk about leadership,and I would say that leadership is going8200:05:44,220 --> 00:05:48,420to be associated with one of the mostfamous leaders, uh, Martin Luther King Jr.8300:05:50,155 --> 00:05:53,495As always, I like to put up an outline,and the purpose of the outline is to8400:05:53,495 --> 00:05:57,434give you an idea of what I'm going totalk about, but more importantly to let8500:05:57,434 --> 00:05:59,265you know what I've just developed up.8600:05:59,650 --> 00:06:03,069So we're going to talk aboutmy mother a brief time, and I8700:06:03,070 --> 00:06:05,170mentioned her name before, Amanda.8800:06:06,300 --> 00:06:10,260We're going to talk about Black HistoryMonth, we're going to talk about8900:06:10,260 --> 00:06:14,870black fathers, because that's a partof our presentation today and part9000:06:14,870 --> 00:06:16,420of what we're trying to get across.9100:06:16,639 --> 00:06:20,790We're going to mention theCivil Rights Act of 1964.9200:06:20,870 --> 00:06:21,980Arguably, in my opinion.9300:06:22,845 --> 00:06:27,975The single most important civil rightsact passed, uh, by the United States9400:06:27,975 --> 00:06:32,065of America and signed by the Presidentof the United States of America.9500:06:32,555 --> 00:06:35,754Uh, and we'll talk about evidenceof that, I'm sure some of you9600:06:35,755 --> 00:06:36,765may be familiar with that.9700:06:38,635 --> 00:06:42,825So for a number of years now, we'vebeen celebrating Black History Month,9800:06:43,195 --> 00:06:45,375uh, during the month of February.9900:06:45,695 --> 00:06:48,325Some people joke and say, whyis it celebrating during the10000:06:48,325 --> 00:06:49,535shortest month of the year?10100:06:49,735 --> 00:06:50,625I have no idea.10200:06:51,095 --> 00:06:52,025I have no idea.10300:06:52,525 --> 00:06:54,794But I just think, again,look at all the positive.10400:06:54,995 --> 00:06:56,434I think it's good that it's celebrating.10500:06:56,645 --> 00:06:59,654I'm not going to quibble withhow many days in a month.10600:06:59,924 --> 00:07:00,765That's a different issue.10700:07:01,345 --> 00:07:06,074And it can go from Frederick Douglass,who was an abolitionist many, many10800:07:06,075 --> 00:07:10,895years ago, who felt very stronglythat African Americans should achieve,10900:07:10,904 --> 00:07:12,925should achieve the ultimate scholarship.11000:07:13,635 --> 00:07:16,504And some of you may remember thatthat was, that was a difference11100:07:16,504 --> 00:07:18,434in philosophy between Booker T.11200:07:18,444 --> 00:07:20,105Washington and Frederick Douglass.11300:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,260Um, um, uh, FrederickDouglass and, and, and W.11400:07:24,350 --> 00:07:24,670E.11500:07:24,680 --> 00:07:24,700B.11600:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,370Du Bois, rather, and Booker T.11700:07:26,400 --> 00:07:26,650Watson.11800:07:26,860 --> 00:07:27,220Booker T.11900:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,939Watson felt that, um, uh, Negroes, andI will use the term affectionately,12000:07:33,350 --> 00:07:36,630uh, that we, we Negroes shouldbe satisfied with where we are.12100:07:36,850 --> 00:07:41,670We should be the best, whatever we'redoing, um, and should not try to12200:07:41,670 --> 00:07:41,870Dr William T Choctaw: get12300:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,850above, you know, where, ineffect, God is, has given us.12400:07:47,285 --> 00:07:47,715W.12500:07:47,805 --> 00:07:47,925E.12600:07:47,925 --> 00:07:48,064B.12700:07:48,065 --> 00:07:53,505DeMorris, uh, felt that, uh, we shouldadopt as a voice in presidency of the12800:07:53,515 --> 00:07:55,245United States, et cetera, et cetera.12900:07:55,775 --> 00:07:58,065that we should alwaysbe striving for more.13000:07:58,335 --> 00:08:02,025And so that was a legitimate argument,legitimate discussion within the13100:08:02,035 --> 00:08:06,055African American community aboutwhat should you do and not do.13200:08:09,194 --> 00:08:13,934My journey, what I'm going to do, thetake I'm going to put with this is13300:08:13,945 --> 00:08:15,864to talk about my own personal life.13400:08:16,075 --> 00:08:19,564Now part of my life is, and I'vementioned this before, I did not13500:08:19,564 --> 00:08:20,804grow up with a father in the womb.13600:08:20,885 --> 00:08:24,784I grew up with a single, uh,single parent, my mother, who13700:08:24,784 --> 00:08:26,635was 17 years old when I was born.13800:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,410Uh, when I was born, she had been, shehad to drop out of high school because13900:08:31,420 --> 00:08:35,449when you're 17, uh, uh, if you're agirl, when you get pregnant, you, you14000:08:35,449 --> 00:08:39,650can't finish high school, there was nomakeup, there was no beauty or anything.14100:08:39,980 --> 00:08:44,769So imagine if you were a 17 yearold girl who gets pregnant, uh,14200:08:44,810 --> 00:08:49,370as a child, off herself, and justimagine what that must feel like.14300:08:50,100 --> 00:08:56,390So, growing up, I, And so then I havea father, so I would make up thoughts.14400:08:56,390 --> 00:09:01,170I would create in my mind, if I hada father, what would he be like?14500:09:01,450 --> 00:09:02,700And how would he act?14600:09:02,700 --> 00:09:03,639And how would he treat me?14700:09:03,719 --> 00:09:07,140But obviously the beauty is whenyou can create it, then you can14800:09:07,150 --> 00:09:08,290make him in a way that he wants.14900:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,159So I did that.15000:09:09,249 --> 00:09:10,039I did that.15100:09:10,310 --> 00:09:17,180Uh, and, uh, I concluded, and I'm, this isabout the time I'm in high school there.15200:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,240Um, I had, I had decided onthree men that I had heard about.15300:09:23,020 --> 00:09:26,089Um, some I had met, some I had not.15400:09:26,090 --> 00:09:27,789Uh, the first one was Martin Luther King.15500:09:27,849 --> 00:09:32,920And, and I'm sure a lot of people myage, uh, in the 60s considered him15600:09:32,950 --> 00:09:37,570like a father figure or or would liketheir father to be like Martin King.15700:09:37,790 --> 00:09:39,650The second was a person by the name of Dr.15800:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,530Isaac Miller.15900:09:40,530 --> 00:09:40,700Dr.16000:09:40,900 --> 00:09:44,510Miller was a professor of,professor of biochemistry.16100:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,220When I was in high school, Igot the opportunity to study at16200:09:48,270 --> 00:09:50,019Tennessee State just in the summer.16300:09:50,290 --> 00:09:52,250Um, and that was when I met Dr.16400:09:52,420 --> 00:09:52,620Miller.16500:09:52,700 --> 00:09:53,339I was very impressed.16600:09:54,650 --> 00:09:59,840Um, and let me parentheticallysay, um, that if you are a student16700:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,190in school, in junior high or highschool, summer is not vacation time.16800:10:05,629 --> 00:10:07,083Summer is not vacation time.16900:10:07,083 --> 00:10:10,240You're supposed to do extraacademic work in the summer.17000:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,899Use the summer time toeither catch up or get ahead.17100:10:14,410 --> 00:10:17,279But summer is not allowedto be vacation time.17200:10:18,030 --> 00:10:20,390Uh, and the third person was Dr.17300:10:20,390 --> 00:10:21,450John Lewis Powell.17400:10:22,039 --> 00:10:26,799Uh, he was a pastor at my churchwhen I graduated from high school17500:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,510and joined church in college.17600:10:29,839 --> 00:10:32,469What was very interesting aboutthese three men, and they didn't17700:10:32,619 --> 00:10:39,265know each other, um, uh, was Ifound out that they all belong to an17800:10:39,265 --> 00:10:42,564organization called Alpha Phi Alpha.17900:10:42,945 --> 00:10:44,205Now I didn't know what that meant.18000:10:44,205 --> 00:10:47,764Uh, and Alpha Phi Alpha is a fraternity.18100:10:48,455 --> 00:10:50,804I didn't know what a fraternity was.18200:10:50,805 --> 00:10:54,295One of the people that was mostinfluential in my life, other than18300:10:54,335 --> 00:10:59,175my mother, um, and some of the schoolteachers, was my social worker.18400:10:59,175 --> 00:11:02,604I was assigned a social workerby the name of Juanita Wall.18500:11:03,115 --> 00:11:05,875Uh, and she was like asurrogate mother for me.18600:11:06,485 --> 00:11:09,185And so I would ask her, Isaid, but what does this mean?18700:11:09,475 --> 00:11:13,015Uh, what was also uniqueabout, um, uh, Ms.18800:11:13,015 --> 00:11:15,615Walker was she'd gone to college.18900:11:15,695 --> 00:11:22,505No one in my sort of operation, um,um, at home or at church or whatever,19000:11:22,754 --> 00:11:24,244um, had ever gone to college.19100:11:24,244 --> 00:11:26,415So I never got to talk to college people.19200:11:26,415 --> 00:11:27,759I don't know what that was like.19300:11:28,030 --> 00:11:29,370But she, she explained it to me.19400:11:29,370 --> 00:11:32,630She said, well, you know, there area group of people, there are men that19500:11:32,680 --> 00:11:36,689are called fraternities, and women arecalled sororities, and there are social19600:11:36,689 --> 00:11:40,619service people, and they, they helpfolks, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.19700:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,779But what I started to understandwas, while I was in high school,19800:11:44,875 --> 00:11:50,735These individuals, uh, were helpingme, uh, they would, they would, they19900:11:50,735 --> 00:11:56,505would, they would give me, uh, uh, a50 scholarship, they would, um, buy20000:11:56,984 --> 00:12:01,614clothes for me, and I would say, I don'tknow them, I don't understand, and she20100:12:01,615 --> 00:12:04,974says, well, these are just things thatthey do, so I said, okay, alright,20200:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,804I, I, I suddenly let it go at that.20300:12:07,544 --> 00:12:11,435The other thing that was veryunique about these three men, uh,20400:12:11,515 --> 00:12:13,614was they all had doctor degrees.20500:12:14,244 --> 00:12:18,505Uh, now my mother had alreadytold me at age five or so, uh,20600:12:18,525 --> 00:12:19,984that she wanted me to be a doctor.20700:12:19,994 --> 00:12:21,265So that, that was a given.20800:12:21,785 --> 00:12:24,245Um, and that wasn't anythingthat I would have thought about.20900:12:24,704 --> 00:12:28,255So, so I'm just trying to set thisup in terms of where we're going.21000:12:28,265 --> 00:12:31,704So, I, I have a mother whois my father and editor.21100:12:32,135 --> 00:12:37,295And then I created, um, um,um, fictitious thoughts for21200:12:37,295 --> 00:12:39,125me, uh, dream thoughts for me.21300:12:39,905 --> 00:12:45,480And what I found out was they allbelong to the same fraternity.21400:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,450Didn't know what that meant, but I justsort of put that in the back of my head.21500:12:52,449 --> 00:12:55,359This fraternity, Alpha PhiAlpha Fraternity Incorporated,21600:12:55,599 --> 00:12:58,609was formed in 1906.21700:12:59,910 --> 00:13:02,909And fraternities and sororitiesare only formed in colleges.21800:13:03,210 --> 00:13:03,600Okay.21900:13:04,310 --> 00:13:07,460And so I said, 1906?22000:13:08,030 --> 00:13:14,130You mean to tell me there wereblack men at college in 1906?22100:13:14,630 --> 00:13:20,069I said, I didn't know that, becausethe only white college was in 1906.22200:13:20,530 --> 00:13:27,689And keep in mind, during my early years,we were barred, at least I thought, from22300:13:27,689 --> 00:13:30,459attending predominantly white schools.22400:13:30,630 --> 00:13:35,069But what it told me was, and thisorganization was formed at Cornell22500:13:35,209 --> 00:13:38,199University, which is an idealism school.22600:13:39,050 --> 00:13:43,660So, you know, it was just confusing tome, but I thought it was interesting.22700:13:43,660 --> 00:13:52,530So, to make a lot of this sort of makesense, I put in my timeline of high22800:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,170school, college, medical school, alongwith what we're going to talk about.22900:13:57,170 --> 00:13:58,650I mean, civil rights movement.23000:13:58,990 --> 00:14:02,700So one of the ways to look and talkabout, this is American history.23100:14:03,694 --> 00:14:04,795This is American history.23200:14:04,964 --> 00:14:07,835One of my favorite subjects inhigh school, even though I was23300:14:08,045 --> 00:14:10,714considering myself a scientistand all my way to medical school23400:14:10,714 --> 00:14:13,665was, I, I love American history.23500:14:13,755 --> 00:14:14,585I still do.23600:14:14,795 --> 00:14:15,435I still do.23700:14:15,975 --> 00:14:17,904Uh, I graduated from high school in 1965.23800:14:20,415 --> 00:14:20,685Okay.23900:14:21,485 --> 00:14:26,575I started Tennessee State University,uh, in Nashville in 1965 and I24000:14:26,575 --> 00:14:28,745graduated from Tennessee State in 1969.24100:14:30,095 --> 00:14:33,284I then started Yale MedicalSchool in 69 and I graduated24200:14:33,284 --> 00:14:35,804from Yale Medical School in 1970.24300:14:37,025 --> 00:14:41,375So it gives you a time frame in termsof where I was and what I was doing.24400:14:41,785 --> 00:14:45,905And so, keep those numbers inmind as we walk through the rest24500:14:45,905 --> 00:14:47,984of this presentation this fall.24600:14:49,985 --> 00:14:52,984What was going on in thecountry in the early 60s?24700:14:54,045 --> 00:15:00,954So, to you who are, uh, uh, Gen Zans and Generation X ans, talk to24800:15:00,954 --> 00:15:03,724your parents about this, because alot of this will make a lot of sense.24900:15:04,140 --> 00:15:07,460But those of you who are baby boomers,you know what I'm talking about, because25000:15:07,460 --> 00:15:10,110you don't know just as much as I do, okay?25100:15:11,495 --> 00:15:18,925I can remember in 1966 ago, therewas a lot of buzz about this new guy25200:15:18,925 --> 00:15:23,785who was running for president andhis name is John Fitzgerald Kennedy.25300:15:24,984 --> 00:15:27,915And people were all excited, at leastin the African American community25400:15:27,934 --> 00:15:32,534where I, where I spent all my timein Nashville about, oh he's, he's,25500:15:32,534 --> 00:15:37,504he's more liberal and he believesin equal equality and, and, and, and25600:15:37,634 --> 00:15:41,255the African American community wasjust very, very, very, very excited.25700:15:42,339 --> 00:15:47,290And the other thing is that JohnKennedy, to some extent, was,25800:15:47,500 --> 00:15:52,069was, was controversial in, inmy community, not among African25900:15:52,069 --> 00:15:56,509Americans that much, but among thewhite members of, I mean, Nashville.26000:15:57,550 --> 00:16:01,300Believe it or not, it's becausetheir biggest fear was, oh26100:16:01,309 --> 00:16:03,204my God, he was Catholic.26200:16:03,785 --> 00:16:07,035And I said, we have never hada Catholic president of this26300:16:07,075 --> 00:16:09,135country, and what does that mean?26400:16:09,365 --> 00:16:12,625Does that mean that the Pope is goingto run the country, blah, blah, blah?26500:16:12,985 --> 00:16:14,625You know, it's just a lot of silliness.26600:16:14,625 --> 00:16:19,145And my part is that when you are afraidof something, you think of silly stuff.26700:16:19,215 --> 00:16:21,344You know, it's just normal.26800:16:21,344 --> 00:16:23,025It's normal to think of that.26900:16:23,025 --> 00:16:28,095And needless to say, John Kennedy was oneof the most Um, uh, famous presidents that27000:16:28,185 --> 00:16:33,315we ever had, um, and his being Catholicor not Catholic really didn't matter.27100:16:34,185 --> 00:16:40,835But as you all know, he was assassinatedin 1963, Dallas, Texas, riding an open,27200:16:41,044 --> 00:16:47,155uh, . Also in the early sixties, therewas a person they met the evers who was27300:16:47,155 --> 00:16:49,525president of the National Association.27400:16:49,525 --> 00:16:56,634Color People, uh, naacp, uh, uh,in Mississippi was also necessity.27500:16:58,030 --> 00:17:05,290And fast forward from 1963, alsoin 1963, uh, that was when there27600:17:05,430 --> 00:17:07,079was the Marjolein Bachmann.27700:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,500Remember that.27800:17:08,530 --> 00:17:11,739This is the I Have a Dreamspeech by Martin Luther King.27900:17:11,740 --> 00:17:13,1901963.28000:17:13,490 --> 00:17:17,310These things are very, veryclosely related time wise.28100:17:24,380 --> 00:17:30,210One of the things about the MartinLuther King speech was it was28200:17:30,330 --> 00:17:36,330done in preparation Uh, to helpto get the president at the time.28300:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,580Lyndon Johnson.28400:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,470Lyndon Johnson was president becauseKennedy had been assassinated.28500:17:41,540 --> 00:17:45,990Lyndon Johnson was vice president,and so ultimately, uh, automatically28600:17:45,990 --> 00:17:47,350moved up to become president.28700:17:47,370 --> 00:17:49,139So all this was happening that Sunday.28800:17:49,290 --> 00:17:52,340This is in the early60s, between 60 and 65.28900:17:53,264 --> 00:17:54,004that year.29000:17:54,274 --> 00:17:57,774I'm in, I'm in junior high andhigh school about this time.29100:17:58,065 --> 00:18:01,804When Martin Luther King gave his speech,because I have a dream speech, they29200:18:01,874 --> 00:18:07,905stopped class in my high 10th grade,yeah, 10th grade, um, 10th and 11th grade,29300:18:08,065 --> 00:18:12,284and they hung us all in the cafeteriato watch this big black and white, well,29400:18:12,284 --> 00:18:14,505excuse me, little black and white team.29500:18:16,095 --> 00:18:18,535There was not a day with a rabbit ear.29600:18:18,565 --> 00:18:21,755Some, some, some of you David Boone,you know what I'm talking about.29700:18:22,025 --> 00:18:24,875Uh, you jet scenes, you havea clue what a rabbit ear is.29800:18:25,695 --> 00:18:29,197Uh, but that's a, talk toyour parents and grandparents.29900:18:29,197 --> 00:18:34,193And we watched the series and wewere all just so impressed and, and30000:18:34,193 --> 00:18:38,465elevated and oh my god, the, you know,things are getting better and better.30100:18:38,949 --> 00:18:43,500And at that speech, Martin Luther Kingstood behind Lyndon Baines Johnson,30200:18:43,510 --> 00:18:47,879that's him sitting at the desk, andyou notice all the pens on his table.30300:18:48,020 --> 00:18:50,600This is a tradition thatcontinues to this day.30400:18:50,909 --> 00:18:53,520When the President of theUnited States signs a bill,30500:18:54,110 --> 00:18:57,339he, he uses a pen per letter.30600:18:58,150 --> 00:19:00,000And that's why he has somany pens on his desk.30700:19:00,270 --> 00:19:04,700And then he takes those pens, after hesigned the bill, and he turns it around30800:19:04,700 --> 00:19:10,839and he gives it to someone, or someindividuals who he believes, uh, have been30900:19:10,889 --> 00:19:13,440instrumental in getting the bill passed.31000:19:13,540 --> 00:19:20,340And here you see him in 1964, uh, after hehad signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.31100:19:20,710 --> 00:19:23,050He gives this to Martin Luther King.31200:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,110Real quick.31300:19:27,425 --> 00:19:28,355American history.31400:19:29,315 --> 00:19:32,995I believe, as do some others, thatthe Civil Rights Act is probably31500:19:32,995 --> 00:19:36,735the most important piece oflegislation, uh, in this country.31600:19:37,435 --> 00:19:40,255Again, I'm in high schoolaround this time now.31700:19:40,585 --> 00:19:44,475Uh, and the reason is thatit has four components.31800:19:44,484 --> 00:19:49,014One, it's, it allowedfolks of color to vote.31900:19:50,324 --> 00:19:50,964To vote.32000:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,889Uh, and believe it or not, we werenot allowed to vote, and they would do32100:19:54,929 --> 00:19:58,520things like they would have literacytests, and keep in mind, uh, most people,32200:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,280particularly African Americans in theDeep South, did not go to school, they32300:20:01,280 --> 00:20:06,750certainly didn't go to college, uh, andso they couldn't pass literacy tests, uh,32400:20:06,849 --> 00:20:11,049and it was just a stymie block, it wasjust a way to block folks from voting.32500:20:11,769 --> 00:20:12,069Why?32600:20:12,379 --> 00:20:15,669Because in a democracy, the power isin the vote, you know what I mean?32700:20:16,299 --> 00:20:21,190So my point very simply is, if youdon't do anything, go out and vote,32800:20:21,610 --> 00:20:24,310or vote online, vote in a drop box.32900:20:25,669 --> 00:20:31,649The other thing was, in terms of,uh, desegregation accommodation, and33000:20:31,649 --> 00:20:36,600when I was growing up, Um, if I wentto a hotel, I wrote, number one, I33100:20:36,620 --> 00:20:38,079couldn't build a sleeping mattress.33200:20:38,574 --> 00:20:41,824Number two, I couldn't usecertain public bathrooms.33300:20:41,824 --> 00:20:45,275I had to go to the bathroom thatsaid color, you know, because the33400:20:45,275 --> 00:20:47,125others were reserved for white folks.33500:20:47,415 --> 00:20:51,234Um, and you couldn't use certain,you know, you couldn't go to certain33600:20:51,375 --> 00:20:53,175movie theaters and on and on and on.33700:20:54,725 --> 00:20:58,834This is just a way of life,and this is all that we need.33800:20:58,834 --> 00:21:03,465Um, and probably the most dramatic,and you may be familiar with this, is33900:21:03,825 --> 00:21:05,935Uh, the schools were not integrated.34000:21:06,535 --> 00:21:09,215Uh, that was this whole thingcalled Crescent versus Ferguson.34100:21:09,215 --> 00:21:10,915It said separate is equal.34200:21:11,385 --> 00:21:15,235Well, what we know then and what weknow now is separate is never equal.34300:21:15,815 --> 00:21:16,624That's why it's separate.34400:21:18,314 --> 00:21:19,284It's not equal.34500:21:19,665 --> 00:21:24,735So, so, uh, the things that I grewup remembering and that my teachers34600:21:24,735 --> 00:21:29,305at school taught all of us is thatyou want the best of the best.34700:21:29,745 --> 00:21:34,185The best of the best, not to bethe burger to the right or to the34800:21:34,185 --> 00:21:38,215left, but keep your eye on the prizeand go to the best of the best.34900:21:38,264 --> 00:21:41,335And to me, that was an idling car.35000:21:42,325 --> 00:21:45,514That was my understandingof what the best was.35100:21:45,565 --> 00:21:46,835So that was my quest.35200:21:47,514 --> 00:21:51,475I guarantee you I was not thesmartest kid in my class in high35300:21:51,485 --> 00:21:52,305school or junior high school.35400:21:53,165 --> 00:21:58,890When I graduated from high school,um, I, I had a, a, Maybe a 3.35500:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,2292, a 3.35600:22:00,230 --> 00:22:01,8703 average, a B average.35700:22:01,870 --> 00:22:03,770I mean, I'm a good student,but I wasn't smart enough.35800:22:03,790 --> 00:22:05,560I didn't have the highest GPA.35900:22:05,750 --> 00:22:08,130Nor did I have the highest GPA in college.36000:22:08,380 --> 00:22:11,340Um, so my point, verysimply, is you don't have to.36100:22:11,340 --> 00:22:13,089You don't have to prove.36200:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,529You just have to work harder.36300:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,099You have to work harder.36400:22:16,099 --> 00:22:17,070You gotta know what you want.36500:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,980And go hard.36600:22:20,650 --> 00:22:29,130So, I decided Uh, again, I startedat Tennessee State in 1965, the36700:22:29,130 --> 00:22:38,060summer of 1965, um, and I pledgedout of the fraternity in 1967.36800:22:39,284 --> 00:22:44,655Two years later, because my first year wassophomore to pledge, uh, so I pledged to36900:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,875the fraternity two years, two years later.37000:22:47,335 --> 00:22:54,115Uh, and the first year that, um, endup being a member of the fraternity,37100:22:54,144 --> 00:22:55,174you're called a little bro.37200:22:55,385 --> 00:22:58,542The trick was on the little brothers.37300:22:58,542 --> 00:23:00,798Our little brother dropped off.37400:23:00,798 --> 00:23:03,053Our little brother dropped off.37500:23:03,053 --> 00:23:05,524So, so, so now let's fast forward.37600:23:05,974 --> 00:23:09,455I, I fledged in 19, uh, 6th and 7th.37700:23:09,455 --> 00:23:12,944So, this is around about ourtime on spring break, um.37800:23:13,300 --> 00:23:15,789Uh, around about March of 67.37900:23:15,790 --> 00:23:17,759And so the bus said, You know what?38000:23:18,660 --> 00:23:20,645Let's take a road trip this weekend.38100:23:20,645 --> 00:23:21,013Yeah.38200:23:21,013 --> 00:23:26,649A lot of people, you know, jump onthe plane and fly to Pensacola or,38300:23:26,949 --> 00:23:29,939or, or they, they go to the Bahamas.38400:23:30,129 --> 00:23:33,350Uh, the bus said, Let's go to Miami.38500:23:37,020 --> 00:23:38,070Oh, my goodness.38600:23:38,430 --> 00:23:43,000So, so we all got one of thebrother's little Mustang and38700:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,899I can't, I can't remember whatthose little Mustangs look like.38800:23:46,240 --> 00:23:52,484There were five of us in a little Mustangin this whole car and we, we went to38900:23:52,484 --> 00:23:55,267Atlanta and Atlanta just to socialize.39000:23:55,267 --> 00:23:58,979I've never been to Atlanta in my life.39100:23:59,060 --> 00:24:03,140But I was a boat And, you know, youjust want to do what the big brothers39200:24:03,140 --> 00:24:04,370say, because they're big brothers.39300:24:04,550 --> 00:24:06,070I mean, that's just, that's the way it is.39400:24:06,710 --> 00:24:08,570Uh, so we all learn.39500:24:09,469 --> 00:24:12,529That first night that we wentaround, this is Saturday.39600:24:13,260 --> 00:24:18,840Uh, some of the brothers went out and,you know, socialized or whatever, but39700:24:18,845 --> 00:24:22,055I stayed, stayed in the room and I wasone of the closest, stayed in the room.39800:24:22,315 --> 00:24:27,929But when the police came back, uh,they said, guess who we saw tonight?39900:24:28,610 --> 00:24:29,600And we said, who?40000:24:30,169 --> 00:24:32,840And they said, we sold Martin and Co.40100:24:33,830 --> 00:24:38,190And we said, ah, come on, come on,that's it, that's it, that's it, no,40200:24:38,190 --> 00:24:40,090no, no, we saw them, we saw them.40300:24:40,709 --> 00:24:46,040And at that point, I said with the, Isaid, I really need to go to this church.40400:24:46,540 --> 00:24:50,449I said, if he's in town, Ireally need to go to this church.40500:24:50,449 --> 00:24:51,499I said, you don't understand.40600:24:51,590 --> 00:24:52,350I can't explain it.40700:24:52,889 --> 00:24:54,699But I just need to see him closer.40800:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,524I need to get closer to him.40900:24:56,715 --> 00:24:57,965And so we all talked about it.41000:24:58,225 --> 00:24:58,814It's cool.41100:24:58,834 --> 00:25:01,685So yeah, well, so the fiveof us decided to go to Martin41200:25:02,195 --> 00:25:04,495Luther King's church in Mexico.41300:25:04,584 --> 00:25:05,154It's the sun and moon.41400:25:06,424 --> 00:25:08,314Uh, and I said, we gotta get there early.41500:25:10,374 --> 00:25:12,435As you can tell, I stilldo that to this day.41600:25:12,914 --> 00:25:16,625I like to get there early just tosit and watch as the people come in.41700:25:17,135 --> 00:25:18,054Blah, blah, blah.41800:25:18,294 --> 00:25:19,455You know, because I don't want to be late.41900:25:19,824 --> 00:25:20,895So we all went.42000:25:21,840 --> 00:25:28,040And we went to Ebenezer BaptistChurch, Atlanta, Georgia.42100:25:29,129 --> 00:25:31,311Now, a couple of things.42200:25:31,311 --> 00:25:32,473History, American history.42300:25:32,473 --> 00:25:36,070Ebenezer Baptist Church is notMartin Luther King's church.42400:25:36,110 --> 00:25:37,396I mean, it's church in general.42500:25:37,396 --> 00:25:40,775But it's his father'schurch, you know what I mean?42600:25:40,775 --> 00:25:42,803This is Daddy King's church, right?42700:25:42,803 --> 00:25:45,129Um, and that's a whole different story.42800:25:45,129 --> 00:25:46,689I'm a clergyman.42900:25:46,689 --> 00:25:48,479That's what it means to me.43000:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,699We read about Martin Luther King's father.43100:25:51,124 --> 00:25:55,364And that'll give you an idea about whyMartin Luther King did the things he did.43200:25:55,554 --> 00:25:58,045For instance, one of the things whenMartin Luther King graduated from43300:25:58,045 --> 00:26:03,844Morehouse College with his bachelors,uh, um, and his daddy said, you know,43400:26:03,845 --> 00:26:10,324I, I want you to go and get a, another,another, um, um, professional degree.43500:26:10,875 --> 00:26:13,695And I want that degree to be froma predominantly white college.43600:26:13,715 --> 00:26:16,875He sent him to the BostonUniversity, and that was where43700:26:16,965 --> 00:26:18,485Martin Luther King got his doctorate.43800:26:18,485 --> 00:26:20,514Boston University.43900:26:21,045 --> 00:26:23,665Um, and so, I regret.44000:26:23,725 --> 00:26:29,135So, Ebony's name, this is what it lookslike, um, can anybody tell me, this is44100:26:29,135 --> 00:26:33,164just, just for free, who's the pastorof Ebony's of Baptist Church now?44200:26:33,684 --> 00:26:33,864Who is that?44300:26:34,594 --> 00:26:37,905No, no, no, he's a sinner.44400:26:38,145 --> 00:26:38,794There you go.44500:26:39,275 --> 00:26:40,484Snagged my finger.44600:26:40,485 --> 00:26:42,001Walking down the hall now.44700:26:42,001 --> 00:26:45,944Since Robin's video's a part ofit, I'm going to continue the show.44800:26:46,604 --> 00:26:49,139Raffaelle Warren Thorpe.44900:26:49,139 --> 00:26:53,965He's the first African AmericanSenator from the state of45000:26:53,965 --> 00:26:56,084Georgia since Reconstruction.45100:26:57,044 --> 00:26:58,214Since Reconstruction.45200:26:59,004 --> 00:27:01,325Now, it says he's also an alcohol man.45300:27:01,325 --> 00:27:03,864But I have tried.45400:27:03,865 --> 00:27:06,714I've been very excited but in good form.45500:27:07,165 --> 00:27:09,615My point is thateverything is still there.45600:27:10,195 --> 00:27:15,965Marcus McGee's church is in Now,how about Rodney Pizza and Neal45700:27:15,965 --> 00:27:20,663Fitzpimmer, Goldsport, and even MartinPorter, father of multiple options?45800:27:20,663 --> 00:27:25,970But, you will say, that is church,and the waycan that the fraternity45900:27:26,009 --> 00:27:28,010brothers and myself have in it.46000:27:28,010 --> 00:27:32,770Okay, uh, tell me God hasnot made things happen.46100:27:32,770 --> 00:27:34,197Reese, can you?46200:27:34,197 --> 00:27:34,673Okay.46300:27:34,673 --> 00:27:41,770So, we went to this church, AndI'm, I'm just on pins and needles.46400:27:41,770 --> 00:27:45,510I, I can't speak because I'mjust so awestruck and everything.46500:27:45,639 --> 00:27:48,389And I'm sitting in the church, andall of us sit together, of course.46600:27:48,659 --> 00:27:52,330Um, and we're sitting about the middle ofthe church, and it's a good sized church,46700:27:52,330 --> 00:27:53,520as you can tell from looking at it.46800:27:53,989 --> 00:27:58,360Um, and all of a sudden, um,uh, Martin Luther King comes46900:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,750out, by himself, with the Lord.47000:28:01,150 --> 00:28:03,290Um, very quiet, a littledispensed, and sits.47100:28:03,845 --> 00:28:07,425Now, he sat in somethingcalled a pull chair.47200:28:07,465 --> 00:28:11,813Now, for you young people, a pullchair is an elevator, you know47300:28:11,813 --> 00:28:13,813what we call them in the city.47400:28:13,813 --> 00:28:19,494And it has chairs on it that you noticeit's sat on during the entire service.47500:28:19,495 --> 00:28:23,385And a lot of churchesdon't have that nowadays.47600:28:23,685 --> 00:28:28,275But, but, so, so Martin Luther Kingcame and he sat in a pull chair.47700:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,095And he sat through four chairs.47800:28:30,255 --> 00:28:32,025Not a lot, just three or four.47900:28:32,490 --> 00:28:35,639Uh, and I was, I, I focusedon him the whole time.48000:28:35,930 --> 00:28:37,450I watched every move he made.48100:28:37,570 --> 00:28:37,860Every move.48200:28:38,629 --> 00:28:40,609I didn't know, I didn'tknow the same about him.48300:28:40,610 --> 00:28:43,990And so, about 15, 20 minutesor so, other people came out,48400:28:44,469 --> 00:28:46,230including, uh, his father.48500:28:46,570 --> 00:28:48,159I don't know if you cancall him, Daddy King.48600:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040Came out and, you know, theywent through the service.48700:28:51,350 --> 00:28:54,790Martin Luther King did not givethe speech at the, the sermon.48800:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,620His father did.48900:28:56,780 --> 00:29:00,990Uh, so at the end of the sermon, Uh, youknow, we're getting up and going around,49000:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,929whatever, and so, um, you know, we'reall together, and so Big Brother Benson,49100:29:07,809 --> 00:29:12,160uh, in our group, says, And I said, Okay.49200:29:15,519 --> 00:29:21,070And so the five of us went to the, thebottom of the pulpit, and the service49300:29:21,070 --> 00:29:24,980is over now, and so we walked upthe stairs and sort of stand around.49400:29:25,130 --> 00:29:32,660Um, he was a very tall guy, he'smade about five, six, whatever, I49500:29:32,770 --> 00:29:33,840just thought that was interesting.49600:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,917But I, I, I didn'trealize he was that tall.49700:29:37,715 --> 00:29:42,605So we were standing around here, and I'mnot talking, I can't see, you know, my49800:29:42,605 --> 00:29:47,315big brother Vincent said stuff like, uh,Brother Kenny, we're, um, uh, brothers49900:29:47,315 --> 00:29:51,855from big old Macomb chapter of TennesseeState University, blah, blah, blah, down50000:29:51,855 --> 00:29:55,705here on Spring Break, and he said, oh, Iwant to introduce you to little brother50100:29:55,705 --> 00:30:01,295Tom, uh, and he turned and he lookedat me and he sort of smiled, uh, Uh,50200:30:04,705 --> 00:30:05,405all right.50300:30:05,615 --> 00:30:06,105All right.50400:30:08,705 --> 00:30:09,135All right.50500:30:14,085 --> 00:30:14,935Take your hand out.50600:30:15,435 --> 00:30:15,885Okay.50700:30:17,175 --> 00:30:17,915Just smiled.50800:30:18,975 --> 00:30:25,075Um, I shook his hand and I didn'twash my hands for at least a month.50900:30:29,875 --> 00:30:33,645But anyway, we came backto campus, whatever.51000:30:33,645 --> 00:30:35,144And so.51100:30:36,025 --> 00:30:40,595After that, we this is six.51200:30:41,045 --> 00:30:44,385This is, uh, uh, we're now in 68.51300:30:45,055 --> 00:30:50,484Um, uh, and so the springbreak is in 68 when we went.51400:30:50,485 --> 00:30:55,642And so then, um, We heard that hewas invited to speak at Vanderbilt51500:30:55,642 --> 00:31:02,675University, which is a very, very large,um, very famous, um, uh, university in51600:31:02,675 --> 00:31:04,625Nashville, Tennessee, predominantly white.51700:31:04,985 --> 00:31:08,255And so, of course, we all wentover to see him to his speech.51800:31:09,305 --> 00:31:12,755And so, um, we, we, and itwas an excellent speech.51900:31:12,935 --> 00:31:16,905We were, we were up in therafters, uh, as soon as he arrived.52000:31:17,095 --> 00:31:18,234And so, uh, uh.52100:31:18,755 --> 00:31:22,985Oh my goodness, uh, but it was justextraordinary, that distinction52200:31:22,985 --> 00:31:25,815was extraordinary, and it justdamaged Martin Luther King.52300:31:27,435 --> 00:31:28,095After that,52400:31:31,685 --> 00:31:34,665not too long, maybe about aweek or two after that, Martin52500:31:34,805 --> 00:31:35,755Luther King was assassinated.52600:31:36,255 --> 00:31:39,794This is, uh, April 6th, 1988.52700:31:39,975 --> 00:31:42,015And the country basically exploded.52800:31:42,855 --> 00:31:47,625Uh, there were illustrations slashriots all over the place, most52900:31:47,725 --> 00:31:51,765college campuses, particularly thepredominantly, uh, African American53000:31:51,765 --> 00:31:55,935college campuses, just in Brooklyn,including my campus, Tennessee State.53100:31:57,575 --> 00:32:05,615Uh, and so, the, what was interesting,uh, and this is where the, the53200:32:05,735 --> 00:32:08,685story takes a very unique turn here.53300:32:09,455 --> 00:32:11,995Um, my house was completely locked out.53400:32:12,015 --> 00:32:15,005This is a picture of the administrationbuilding at Tennessee State.53500:32:15,625 --> 00:32:21,715Um, um, every time I see thispicture, I think of my wife.53600:32:23,405 --> 00:32:28,105We went to visit, um,Tennessee some years ago.53700:32:28,105 --> 00:32:30,242She took a picture of this building.53800:32:30,242 --> 00:32:35,005And I have her hanging in my officeat home, um, at the present time.53900:32:35,315 --> 00:32:38,795But anyway, so Riot broke out everywhere.54000:32:38,855 --> 00:32:43,010They broke out on my campus and thenational was Colorado and the national54100:32:43,010 --> 00:32:49,255office was school American communityby the basement on the campus.54200:32:49,495 --> 00:32:53,935And I, I was on sixth and seventhfloor of my dog and I could look out54300:32:54,055 --> 00:32:58,725my window in the parking lot and hadwith National Guard people, the rifles,54400:32:58,785 --> 00:33:01,725lying in department law of my campus.54500:33:02,025 --> 00:33:05,685Uh, and so we, you know,obviously were suspended.54600:33:06,390 --> 00:33:07,900The Dean of Students, Dr.54700:33:08,020 --> 00:33:08,800Joseph R.54800:33:09,140 --> 00:33:14,209Popayne Jr., he was very eloquent,uh, man, just as impeccably, we,54900:33:14,210 --> 00:33:18,090we all liked him, and we liked theway he spoke, um, he summoned me55000:33:18,090 --> 00:33:20,620to his office, and he said, Mr.55100:33:20,620 --> 00:33:23,610Choctaw, see back there,um, they call him Mr.55200:33:23,810 --> 00:33:24,729This on campus, and Mr.55300:33:24,730 --> 00:33:32,390Choctaw, um, um, I, I, we, we,we need you to go with us to,55400:33:32,390 --> 00:33:35,270to come to a meeting with us.55500:33:36,170 --> 00:33:41,870And I said to me, he said, we need youto come with us to a meeting at downtown55600:33:41,880 --> 00:33:48,000Nashville to meet with the, uh, themayor and council people and the leaders55700:33:48,130 --> 00:33:52,030downtown Nashville because we needsomebody to represent a student body.55800:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,120And I said, um, Dr.55900:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,960Payne, I, I am not astudent council member.56000:33:57,450 --> 00:33:58,667No, no, no.56100:33:58,667 --> 00:34:00,289I have to go.56200:34:00,289 --> 00:34:03,129And Hadley said, I understand that Mr.56300:34:03,129 --> 00:34:03,534O'Connell.56400:34:03,534 --> 00:34:06,779He said, but the studentcouncil president resigned.56500:34:06,779 --> 00:34:07,185Immediately.56600:34:07,185 --> 00:34:10,430When Martin Luther Kingwas assassinated he quit.56700:34:10,430 --> 00:34:13,269He said, I am done with this.56800:34:13,630 --> 00:34:14,590I am done with it.56900:34:15,130 --> 00:34:17,200I will not do blah blahblah blah blah blah.57000:34:17,860 --> 00:34:21,179I have been elected studentcouncil president A.57100:34:21,180 --> 00:34:21,500S.57200:34:21,550 --> 00:34:21,640O.57300:34:22,005 --> 00:34:24,794I was scheduled to takeoffice in junior year.57400:34:24,794 --> 00:34:26,805I was scheduled to takeoffice my senior year.57500:34:27,335 --> 00:34:31,805So, I said, I said, well,I don't need nobody.57600:34:31,805 --> 00:34:35,915And, and in effect, Dr.57700:34:36,165 --> 00:34:40,190Faith said, Uh, let'schop down on you a bit.57800:34:40,190 --> 00:34:41,915We need you.57900:34:42,735 --> 00:34:43,935And I said, okay.58000:34:44,965 --> 00:34:50,255So, we went to the meeting.58100:34:51,790 --> 00:34:55,960And one could tell that theprofessors were very nervous58200:34:56,050 --> 00:34:56,860on this thing, I believe.58300:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,695Uh, not just the little persons, Idon't know if that's how you say it.58400:35:02,695 --> 00:35:05,829Little by the chalk box,little by the, all these guys.58500:35:05,830 --> 00:35:08,200And so we went, because Iunderstood the gravity, I58600:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,915understood what he was telling me.58700:35:09,915 --> 00:35:12,580And, you know, and what hesaid, it didn't make sense.58800:35:12,970 --> 00:35:19,510He said, they need to be reassuredthat students at this college58900:35:19,580 --> 00:35:20,690are not going to remain crazy.59000:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,370They need to be reassured that theycan withdraw these National Guards,59100:35:26,750 --> 00:35:31,200uh, and their tanks and not worrythat something bad is going to happen.59200:35:32,050 --> 00:35:33,860And they need to hear itfrom a student leader.59300:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160They don't believe the professorsbecause they don't think we59400:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,920know what we're talking about.59500:35:38,580 --> 00:35:39,980They need to hear it from one of you guys.59600:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,960Um, and so I went to the meeting andit's, you know, since, uh, I said59700:35:45,980 --> 00:35:49,000nothing, uh, until asked, and, uh, Dr.59800:35:49,230 --> 00:35:54,140Payne, in this elegant way, madethe case, you know, held it,59900:35:54,140 --> 00:35:55,770just, just very, very elegant.60000:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,610Um, and so after sending the, the, uh,the folks in downtown Asheville started60100:36:01,610 --> 00:36:05,369asking questions, what about this, whatabout that, so then they turned to me.60200:36:05,870 --> 00:36:09,550And in essence, can you assure usthat your students are going to60300:36:09,610 --> 00:36:13,210go back to studying and you guysare going to do just what I said?60400:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,270Yes, sir.60500:36:14,660 --> 00:36:18,670So you got to understand, yousay yes sir and yes ma'am.60600:36:19,290 --> 00:36:20,670You don't say yes and no.60700:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,150That's a different presentation.60800:36:25,490 --> 00:36:26,610So then they said, okay.60900:36:27,790 --> 00:36:30,090They sent us back to campus.61000:36:30,260 --> 00:36:34,780They did withdraw the NationalGuard agents and the guys with the61100:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,450guns and all that sort of stuff.61200:36:37,020 --> 00:36:43,490And the administration, the leaders,the president, vice president, and Dr.61300:36:43,490 --> 00:36:46,000Payne Noble, they did what theyneeded to do and everything61400:36:46,010 --> 00:36:47,581was, everything was better.61500:36:47,581 --> 00:36:55,094So, that was another way that I wasimpacted by this whole thing in 1968.61600:36:57,435 --> 00:36:58,695I have no idea about it.61700:36:58,985 --> 00:37:01,275I said, you know, thathas nothing to do with me.61800:37:01,515 --> 00:37:03,955But it just goes to show you never know.61900:37:05,065 --> 00:37:06,995You are not in charge of this stuff.62000:37:07,955 --> 00:37:10,475We are all actors on stage.62100:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,960And we don't control the program.62200:37:13,310 --> 00:37:15,600We don't, we don't write the script.62300:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,640We're not the directors and the producers.62400:37:18,820 --> 00:37:21,890We are actors or people on stage.62500:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,020Um, and as we alwayssay, God is in charge.62600:37:26,820 --> 00:37:35,250Moving on, the men about, uh, aroundabout, um, 2010 and 2011, Desire, you62700:37:35,250 --> 00:37:37,110know, but that should be a monument.62800:37:37,770 --> 00:37:42,180Well, I alternative vote, uh, that thissponsor should recognize how great this62900:37:42,180 --> 00:37:44,490man was and the people who helped him.63000:37:45,175 --> 00:37:50,760Um, and so it's up them 15 years,one thought, 15 years to get63100:37:50,765 --> 00:37:55,500the Martin Luther King MemorialMonument, uh, job and approved.63200:37:55,740 --> 00:37:59,070Uh, and it is presentlyin Washington DC now.63300:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,570So if you have a visit, WashingtonDC I would encourage you, uh, to go63400:38:04,570 --> 00:38:05,875to the Martin Luther King Island.63500:38:06,790 --> 00:38:13,320Um, and, uh, it is the only monument fora non military person in Washington, D.63600:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,850C.63700:38:14,130 --> 00:38:19,810Uh, it is the only monument fora non president, uh, who was a63800:38:19,810 --> 00:38:21,450military person in Washington, D.63900:38:21,450 --> 00:38:21,750C.64000:38:22,460 --> 00:38:23,910But the Man of Alpha did it.64100:38:24,480 --> 00:38:30,079And just another example of, uh,the, the power and the glory of,64200:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,800of, of when God is in charge.64300:38:32,270 --> 00:38:33,550Let me hasten to add.64400:38:33,990 --> 00:38:37,350They're from an Americanhistory point of view.64500:38:37,830 --> 00:38:41,320Um, there are basically fourAfrican American terms and basically64600:38:41,430 --> 00:38:43,230four African American skills.64700:38:43,570 --> 00:38:45,510So alpha is not the only one.64800:38:45,510 --> 00:38:47,380Alpha is not the only one.64900:38:47,380 --> 00:38:53,125In this church, You know, I sit everySunday next to, uh, you know, a brother,65000:38:53,385 --> 00:38:59,565uh, uh, who's retired from the LAPD,uh, who's carried out Versailles, sees65100:38:59,565 --> 00:39:03,105each other, uh, all the time, yes,but so what if I say, where are you?65200:39:03,285 --> 00:39:04,875Well, where'd you learnthat great stuff again?65300:39:05,395 --> 00:39:06,375You know, where'd I go?65400:39:06,685 --> 00:39:11,105Uh, my brother Nichols, uh, who,uh, the church we're talking about,65500:39:11,815 --> 00:39:13,605uh, and he may not sound proud.65600:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,780Uh, and we teach each other, right?65700:39:15,790 --> 00:39:19,280You know, when, when Omegacelebrated their, their Founders65800:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,370Day, I congratulated them.65900:39:21,010 --> 00:39:24,210So my point is that we're witnessingbrotherhood within the brotherhood.66000:39:24,750 --> 00:39:26,379That's what I'm trying to say.66100:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,710Uh, and this is how weget stronger and better.66200:39:30,140 --> 00:39:34,230Uh, I was sharing with, withMargaret earlier how I had learned66300:39:34,230 --> 00:39:38,670so much, like from podcasting andmeeting the men's Sun School class.66400:39:38,750 --> 00:39:39,410True story.66500:39:40,390 --> 00:39:42,680In my adult, I am 76 years old.66600:39:43,010 --> 00:39:49,710In my adult life, I have, and this is my,say, graduate from high school, I have66700:39:49,850 --> 00:39:58,940never consistently been in a predominantlyblack, uh, male, group, uh, in my66800:39:59,170 --> 00:40:01,170life until the men's sinus flu course.66900:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,335Yeah, because you used tobe in men's sinus flu class.67000:40:03,335 --> 00:40:05,504That's right, becauseyou used to be in it.67100:40:05,505 --> 00:40:07,574Right, right, right, right.67200:40:07,575 --> 00:40:08,695But I am never gonna.67300:40:09,245 --> 00:40:14,585So my point is, that just being one of thepredominant, and predominant men's African67400:40:14,665 --> 00:40:17,605American clients is, is, is unique to me.67500:40:17,605 --> 00:40:19,052Over 50 years.67600:40:19,052 --> 00:40:22,910I graduated from medicalschool 50 years ago.67700:40:22,910 --> 00:40:23,874Okay, 73rd.67800:40:24,615 --> 00:40:26,825So, so, we continue to grow.67900:40:26,865 --> 00:40:27,945This one of the problems.68000:40:28,335 --> 00:40:29,145We continue to grow.68100:40:29,195 --> 00:40:29,955It doesn't stop.68200:40:30,475 --> 00:40:31,525We continue to grow.68300:40:33,415 --> 00:40:33,515Okay.68400:40:34,705 --> 00:40:35,375Almost done.68500:40:35,995 --> 00:40:36,605Almost done.68600:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,143Shut up!68700:40:38,143 --> 00:40:39,286Shut up!68800:40:39,286 --> 00:40:40,429Shut up!68900:40:40,610 --> 00:40:41,420Bad name!69000:40:45,330 --> 00:40:50,510Bad name, you know, not too longago, about 20 years ago, 50, 20 years69100:40:50,510 --> 00:40:55,600ago, there was another big buzz goingaround about this tall, skinny kid69200:40:55,610 --> 00:40:59,300from Chicago with a funny name, okay?69300:41:00,680 --> 00:41:06,005And, uh, he had, uh, And you noticehe wrote a book called Dream of My69400:41:06,005 --> 00:41:11,665Father, which so, I mean, he alsohad fatherhood issues, you know, so69500:41:11,905 --> 00:41:16,840he was, he was dealing with a lotof rights, or, what Glump and Foster69600:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,105all were saying, or whatever, um, youknow, but anyway, he was interested69700:41:22,105 --> 00:41:25,795in politics, leadership in politics.69800:41:26,345 --> 00:41:32,675And he ended up, uh, uh, running, uh, inChicago, uh, ran against all the African69900:41:32,675 --> 00:41:38,435Americans and lost visibly, just, justdidn't like the job, but kept trying,70000:41:39,285 --> 00:41:44,365kept trying one time, two times, I think,and then on about, I think, the second70100:41:44,365 --> 00:41:48,905and third time, finally won that littledistrict thing, and then used that to then70200:41:48,905 --> 00:41:52,535get to the Senate, um, in Washington, D.70300:41:52,535 --> 00:41:52,695C.70400:41:54,395 --> 00:41:58,014He decided that he wantedto run for President.70500:41:59,135 --> 00:42:02,155Now, you gotta understand whatthe challenge of that is, not to70600:42:02,565 --> 00:42:07,765mention the basic challenges ofhim looking the way he looks, but70700:42:07,765 --> 00:42:11,265his name is Barack Hussein Obama.70800:42:12,705 --> 00:42:13,375Think about that.70900:42:13,375 --> 00:42:16,825Barack Hussein Obama.71000:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,760Who in the world would love apresident who's not in love with that71100:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,840kind of name, you know what I mean?71200:42:25,370 --> 00:42:26,496That's my point.71300:42:26,496 --> 00:42:29,560My point is there willalways be obstacles.71400:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,530There will always be stumbling blocks.71500:42:32,870 --> 00:42:35,280There will always be resistance.71600:42:35,450 --> 00:42:36,502So what?71700:42:36,502 --> 00:42:37,405So what?71800:42:37,405 --> 00:42:42,376If you really want todo it, you go for it.71900:42:42,376 --> 00:42:45,088So, this guy, I started watching.72000:42:45,088 --> 00:42:45,992Started watching.72100:42:45,992 --> 00:42:47,799So, this is interesting.72200:42:52,930 --> 00:42:54,570I'm still wondering what this means.72300:42:54,860 --> 00:43:01,230So when he, uh, decided to run forpresident and he was going through72400:43:01,230 --> 00:43:06,020the process of trying to be nominatedon the credit card, I said, you know72500:43:06,020 --> 00:43:13,110what, I, I, I like, I said, but yougotta prove to me you're the real deal.72600:43:13,950 --> 00:43:14,260Right?72700:43:14,270 --> 00:43:19,410And I said, my proof is you gottawin an election in a predominantly72800:43:19,420 --> 00:43:24,285white state by a reasonable Okay.72900:43:24,335 --> 00:43:27,105I said, if you can do that, then I will.73000:43:27,925 --> 00:43:31,275If not, you know, I'm going tostand on the sidelines and I'll73100:43:31,305 --> 00:43:36,634wave at you and wish you well,but I'm not going to engage.73200:43:36,635 --> 00:43:38,665I'm not going to.73300:43:38,665 --> 00:43:39,745He did prove that.73400:43:39,785 --> 00:43:41,005He won the Iowa caucus.73500:43:42,095 --> 00:43:46,735I was about 90 pluspercent Caucasian, right?73600:43:46,995 --> 00:43:48,375I said, okay, I'm in.73700:43:49,005 --> 00:43:49,155I'm in.73800:43:51,285 --> 00:43:54,425And so we followed himon and on and on and on.73900:43:55,205 --> 00:43:59,179Uh, when I said we, I'm talking about mybest friend who's sitting in the chat,74000:43:59,179 --> 00:44:00,789people that are listening right now.74100:44:00,789 --> 00:44:02,666Uh, so we, we've been following him.74200:44:02,666 --> 00:44:04,435So, Chad, I have no value.74300:44:04,575 --> 00:44:13,4852007, second to uh, my best friendand I was sitting there and she and74400:44:13,485 --> 00:44:16,605I were watching the election results.74500:44:16,715 --> 00:44:17,505CNN.74600:44:18,155 --> 00:44:19,145Wolf Blitzer.74700:44:19,795 --> 00:44:20,265Okay.74800:44:20,455 --> 00:44:22,285Wolf Blitzer is still at CNN too.74900:44:22,335 --> 00:44:22,875Oh, Blitzer.75000:44:23,325 --> 00:44:24,015Wow.75100:44:25,255 --> 00:44:26,185But he's still there.75200:44:26,540 --> 00:44:31,120And as he announced, ladies and gentlemen,the next president of the United States75300:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,410is Barack, blah, blah, blah, blah, wesaw them jumping up and down, and hugging75400:44:35,410 --> 00:44:39,230each other, and crying, and screaming, andyelling, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,75500:44:39,270 --> 00:44:45,170and then, then, I kid you not, I kid younot, she goes this kind of, I kid you not,75600:44:45,810 --> 00:44:50,400Mild enough and wider glimpses of me andsaid, I want to go to the inauguration.75700:44:50,855 --> 00:44:56,205I said, She said, I wantto go to the inauguration.75800:44:57,025 --> 00:45:00,405I said, Do you know how many childrenand young kids have the inauguration?75900:45:01,105 --> 00:45:02,915Do you really think it's that number?76000:45:03,305 --> 00:45:03,645Ooh!76100:45:04,595 --> 00:45:06,041Or what should we say?76200:45:06,041 --> 00:45:07,423Then what the hell?76300:45:07,423 --> 00:45:12,604This is going to be on the firstweek or the second week in January.76400:45:12,605 --> 00:45:13,555She said, I don't care.76500:45:14,025 --> 00:45:15,855I want to go to the inauguration.76600:45:15,855 --> 00:45:20,499I said, Let me see what I can do.76700:45:21,070 --> 00:45:26,570So I called up Marion, we have status withMarion, and I said, we'd like to go to the76800:45:26,660 --> 00:45:32,379block upon inauguration the second weekin January, uh, you know what can we do?76900:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,740Said, uh, we'll, we'll show you.77000:45:36,290 --> 00:45:39,470I said, oh, they did get back to us.77100:45:39,900 --> 00:45:40,920And they said no.77200:45:41,740 --> 00:45:45,710We have some rooms in Virginiaright outside of Washington.77300:45:46,770 --> 00:45:53,280Uh, uh, and, uh, they're, they, um,they're very, um, um, sweets, I think.77400:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,940Um, and, um, we got acouple rooms that are there.77500:45:57,210 --> 00:46:00,170They said, Virginia, it's all likeabout 50 minutes to Washington.77600:46:00,180 --> 00:46:02,615Get on the train, getto downtown Washington.77700:46:02,615 --> 00:46:04,990Say three long words, get to downtown.77800:46:06,980 --> 00:46:10,760I said, God, whoops, the best decision.77900:46:11,150 --> 00:46:15,720ever made in my life, the bestdecision ever made in my life.78000:46:15,970 --> 00:46:17,140It was like a picnic.78100:46:17,670 --> 00:46:19,170We met people from all over the world.78200:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,820Um, everybody was happy and speakingdifferent languages and blah blah78300:46:23,820 --> 00:46:28,210blah blah blah blah blah Um, andwe were there for about a week and78400:46:28,300 --> 00:46:32,184since the inauguration I'm stillup, standing in the foreground.78500:46:32,805 --> 00:46:36,142Uh, uh, we're 16 minutes old.78600:46:36,142 --> 00:46:41,214That's the last time I'm going to do that.78700:46:41,215 --> 00:46:42,315We're not that far back.78800:46:42,315 --> 00:46:49,785We're like two thirds of the way.78900:46:49,785 --> 00:46:51,230We're there.79000:46:51,230 --> 00:46:57,012You can't see us, but we're this far.79100:46:57,012 --> 00:46:57,734Okay.79200:46:59,925 --> 00:47:01,305Standing square.79300:47:01,980 --> 00:47:02,400Mm-Hmm.79400:47:03,645 --> 00:47:10,960. The, there was 1.8 million people,the largest 1.8 million people.79500:47:12,435 --> 00:47:13,960Freezing priest.79600:47:14,475 --> 00:47:16,095Priest as a river baton.79700:47:17,205 --> 00:47:20,145And that came off ofright hill side Coalition.79800:47:21,885 --> 00:47:23,220What started the old.79900:47:23,945 --> 00:47:24,635that I saw.80000:47:25,015 --> 00:47:27,465People in wheelchairs, people on crutches.80100:47:27,515 --> 00:47:32,715Oh, I had a nerve to think, youknow, who said, I can't just sing80200:47:32,715 --> 00:47:34,105blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.80300:47:34,235 --> 00:47:36,445I never thought I'd seethis in my lifetime.80400:47:37,105 --> 00:47:38,895I thought blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.80500:47:39,305 --> 00:47:45,404So, needless to say, we were notable to talk about it for so long.80600:47:45,405 --> 00:47:47,859That was such a tough bill to pay me.80700:47:48,150 --> 00:47:54,880Well, it was, it was the most relaxed,uh, strong, um, ally I've ever had.80800:47:55,590 --> 00:47:57,730And I haven't been in acrowd basement too late.80900:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,880Um, the military was incontrol of everything.81000:48:01,300 --> 00:48:04,090Uh, and we got to see aclose up on the berets.81100:48:04,090 --> 00:48:08,336And we could, we have a map of the berets,and we would run to the place, where the81200:48:08,336 --> 00:48:10,529police are waiting, and sit and wait.81300:48:10,950 --> 00:48:14,070for Michelle and Barack Obama andCasey and all that sort of stuff.81400:48:14,470 --> 00:48:18,210And Barack was also determined, keep inmind this man gets probably a hundred81500:48:18,210 --> 00:48:20,210to a thousand death threats per day.81600:48:21,210 --> 00:48:22,209Think about that.81700:48:22,210 --> 00:48:22,970Think about that.81800:48:27,060 --> 00:48:28,110I'm a male.81900:48:28,370 --> 00:48:29,730Uh, I'm following up.82000:48:29,730 --> 00:48:34,679I'm following all of themaround the state of the city.82100:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,747That's what I say.82200:48:35,747 --> 00:48:38,557And, uh, he, he sort of picked it up.82300:48:38,557 --> 00:48:39,806He picked it up.82400:48:39,806 --> 00:48:44,780And so he's determined, he's gonna get outof his car, walk down the street, Yeah.82500:48:45,050 --> 00:48:46,110And say the end of this.82600:48:46,110 --> 00:48:46,919Mm hmm.82700:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,749That's right.82800:48:47,750 --> 00:48:47,840Right?82900:48:49,015 --> 00:48:49,435Mm-Hmm.83000:48:50,335 --> 00:48:51,075. What's the point?83100:48:51,735 --> 00:48:56,595Is that threats andresistance is based on fear.83200:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,110Mm-Hmm.83300:48:57,890 --> 00:49:02,215If you are afraid, ifyou're not afraid of data.83400:49:02,435 --> 00:49:04,655So now Yep.83500:49:04,820 --> 00:49:05,720Bad things happen.83600:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,455I'm not saying, you know, we justwent through a lot of the bad83700:49:08,455 --> 00:49:09,775things that happened, obviously.83800:49:09,775 --> 00:49:10,175Mm-Hmm.83900:49:10,520 --> 00:49:17,630. But so what, so what, um, and basicallythat was sort of what Obama said.84000:49:17,990 --> 00:49:18,470So what.84100:49:19,295 --> 00:49:25,265And so, needless to say, um, the,the rest is, the rest is history.84200:49:25,275 --> 00:49:27,255It's two, two terms.84300:49:27,255 --> 00:49:28,305Two terms.84400:49:28,435 --> 00:49:29,275We made it here.84500:49:29,405 --> 00:49:30,415Mm hmm.84600:49:30,415 --> 00:49:34,045No family in the White House,including mother, no problems,84700:49:34,315 --> 00:49:37,555no scammers, major legislation.84800:49:37,555 --> 00:49:41,095One of the most important pieces oflegislation that I talk about all84900:49:41,105 --> 00:49:43,805the time is the Affordable Care Act.85000:49:43,805 --> 00:49:44,545Affordable Care Act.85100:49:44,595 --> 00:49:45,095Yeah.85200:49:45,215 --> 00:49:45,715What do you mean?85300:49:45,945 --> 00:49:46,435We know that's a given.85400:49:48,115 --> 00:49:49,468You talked about it on the show.85500:49:49,468 --> 00:49:50,511Yes, yes I did.85600:49:50,511 --> 00:49:52,815And the important thing aboutObamacare, particularly for85700:49:52,835 --> 00:49:56,185those of us in the healthcarefield, well, it's another thing.85800:49:56,185 --> 00:50:00,075But one of the things it did,it forced all hospitals and all85900:50:00,115 --> 00:50:02,385doctors offices to come to me.86000:50:04,115 --> 00:50:06,735Without an engagement fromthe federal government.86100:50:07,435 --> 00:50:10,205It wouldn't have happened withouta threat saying, you know what, if86200:50:10,205 --> 00:50:14,775we don't repudialize by XYZ day,we're going to start sending, stop86300:50:14,775 --> 00:50:16,395sending new Medicare patients.86400:50:17,665 --> 00:50:21,565Most hospitals and doctors officescould not survive without a86500:50:21,845 --> 00:50:23,255Medicare and Medi Cal patients.86600:50:23,915 --> 00:50:28,834Because the government figured out thatit pays the money, who's the money?86700:50:28,835 --> 00:50:32,845Okay, uh, so as a result, and so that wasone of the big things about Obamacare.86800:50:34,415 --> 00:50:37,185Second big thing about Obama becauseit's sort of a level of play for you.86900:50:37,675 --> 00:50:43,065Um, in this country, the biggest causeof bankruptcies is people getting sick.87000:50:43,935 --> 00:50:47,805The only civilized countryin the world that has that.87100:50:49,005 --> 00:50:50,055Europe doesn't have it.87200:50:50,405 --> 00:50:51,865Um, England doesn't have it.87300:50:51,905 --> 00:50:53,265Canada doesn't have it.87400:50:53,565 --> 00:50:56,745You know, the Asian countriesdon't have it because they have87500:50:56,745 --> 00:50:58,515a centralized type of medicine.87600:50:59,130 --> 00:50:59,600Right?87700:50:59,620 --> 00:51:01,290Here it's harder for the most part.87800:51:01,290 --> 00:51:04,410Now, we have Medicare and Medi Cal, buta lot of the problems is far higher.87900:51:04,770 --> 00:51:06,080If you have money, you can afford this.88000:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,060If you don't have money,you can't afford this.88100:51:08,060 --> 00:51:09,140Et cetera, et cetera.88200:51:10,735 --> 00:51:14,985Okay, so huge talk about the health care.88300:51:15,295 --> 00:51:18,665Um, and the other thing that we'regoing to talk about a couple of weeks88400:51:18,665 --> 00:51:24,465from now is the increased patientrights, things like the advanced88500:51:24,465 --> 00:51:31,755direct seeing that I'm going to be yourdoctor and I have a duty to inform you88600:51:32,105 --> 00:51:37,155about what you need to have done toyou, you know, say operation, right?88700:51:37,510 --> 00:51:40,399But you as a patienthave a right to refuse.88800:51:40,399 --> 00:51:42,322Even though it's Operation D?88900:51:42,322 --> 00:51:43,861Even though it's what?89000:51:43,861 --> 00:51:44,630Operation D.89100:51:44,630 --> 00:51:46,553Even though it's Operation D.89200:51:46,553 --> 00:51:47,707It's your right.89300:51:47,707 --> 00:51:48,476That's right.89400:51:48,476 --> 00:51:49,246So Dr.89500:51:49,246 --> 00:51:49,630Schatz.89600:51:49,630 --> 00:51:51,590You're a nice guy and I like you.89700:51:52,100 --> 00:51:53,750And I like all thatstuff that you've done.89800:51:54,030 --> 00:51:54,590But I don't think so.89900:51:55,480 --> 00:51:55,760To not.90000:51:56,720 --> 00:51:57,390I just don't.90100:51:58,530 --> 00:52:00,920I mean, I choose not to do.90200:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,190Um, and so, so it has atremendous fundamental effect.90300:52:06,100 --> 00:52:06,420So.90400:52:07,815 --> 00:52:09,835Riding down God's end chart.90500:52:09,855 --> 00:52:11,205These are my basic principles.90600:52:11,205 --> 00:52:14,835I start off with my beliefs and Iend up with my basic principles.90700:52:15,315 --> 00:52:19,095God is in charge of my life andhas been, and you do not know90800:52:19,765 --> 00:52:21,365the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.90900:52:21,365 --> 00:52:25,845I invite you, or I encourageyou, to seek out his guidance91000:52:25,925 --> 00:52:27,965and to follow his teachings.91100:52:28,550 --> 00:52:29,790Uh, no bad days.91200:52:29,790 --> 00:52:31,110I do not have bad days.91300:52:31,110 --> 00:52:35,100I've said it before, and I figuredout about 30 years ago, uh,91400:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,830that, uh, um, the days weren'tgood or bad if I said they were.91500:52:39,210 --> 00:52:41,600So, uh, I don't have bad days.91600:52:42,010 --> 00:52:45,130Don't sweat the small stuff,and most stuff is small.91700:52:45,590 --> 00:52:49,650Uh, you will find the things thatyou worry about and agonize over.91800:52:49,665 --> 00:52:57,275Um, and most of the time, you havecontrol over that, and so you can stop it.91900:52:57,685 --> 00:52:58,975Forgiveness is therapy.92000:52:59,525 --> 00:53:04,005When someone does or sayssomething to you that you think92100:53:04,365 --> 00:53:08,945is negative, or you interpret asnegative, forgive them immediately.92200:53:09,415 --> 00:53:13,215Don't try to look at the facts,just, just, just go ahead and do it.92300:53:13,870 --> 00:53:18,080And her principle, uh, iseverything is a relationship.92400:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,930Everything, everything,everything is a relationship.92500:53:21,240 --> 00:53:23,220Relationships are based on three things.92600:53:23,460 --> 00:53:27,010Mutual respect, mutualtrust, good communication.92700:53:27,620 --> 00:53:30,360If you have those three things,you have a good relationship.92800:53:30,890 --> 00:53:33,580If you do not, then you have a road trip.92900:53:36,990 --> 00:53:37,910The history continues.93000:53:39,670 --> 00:53:43,980Um, where will you be inthis line of leadership?93100:53:44,935 --> 00:53:45,915What would you do?93200:53:46,625 --> 00:53:50,565I suggest to me to have a conversationwith the person in the mirror and93300:53:50,565 --> 00:53:53,385you decide what's best for you.93400:53:53,725 --> 00:53:54,855But the struggle continues.93500:53:56,315 --> 00:53:57,515The legacy continues.93600:53:58,425 --> 00:54:02,695I suggest to you, have a conversationwith the person in the mirror93700:54:03,175 --> 00:54:05,275and say, Well, what is my voice?93800:54:05,925 --> 00:54:13,185Well, what am I going to do to makethings just a little bit better?93900:54:13,775 --> 00:54:15,555We all have that privilege.94000:54:15,755 --> 00:54:16,765We all have that right.94100:54:17,535 --> 00:54:18,865We all have that opportunity.94200:54:21,545 --> 00:54:27,225And it goes, if you and I arecompletely happy with the way the94300:54:27,235 --> 00:54:34,594world is, you be the change thatyou want to see in the world.94400:54:34,675 --> 00:54:35,085Thank you.94500:54:35,915 --> 00:54:38,525Thank you for listening to thisepisode of the Healthy, wealthy,94600:54:38,525 --> 00:54:40,655and Wise Podcast with Dr.94700:54:40,655 --> 00:54:43,325William t Choctaw, md, jd.94800:54:43,865 --> 00:54:47,375Be sure to check out other greatepisodes covering areas of 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