How to Talk to Your Children About Artificial Intelligence (AI) with Dr. William T. Choctaw (Part 2)

100:00:00,010 --> 00:00:03,280Dr William T. Choctaw: Just, justfor fun, uh, and I said, uh, and,200:00:03,280 --> 00:00:04,970and so I, I went to the chat bot.300:00:04,970 --> 00:00:08,480I said, tell me all the great thingsyou've done in the last 12 months.400:00:08,719 --> 00:00:11,440What, what have you learnedin the last 12 months?500:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,840Uh, and so it says, well, uh,we've made advances in powering600:00:16,849 --> 00:00:18,450new drug discovery processes.700:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,180Think about the, uh, pandemic, andthink about vaccines, and think800:00:23,189 --> 00:00:26,680about the issue of, well, how fastcan you get that vaccine done?900:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,250It used to take monthsand years to do that.1000:00:29,449 --> 00:00:30,900Doesn't take months and years now.1100:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,450Why?1200:00:31,529 --> 00:00:34,710Because the pharmaceutical companieshave artificial intelligence1300:00:34,940 --> 00:00:36,910equipment in their organization.1400:00:37,450 --> 00:00:39,900Uh, quantum computingthat solves problems.1500:00:40,510 --> 00:00:42,420Um, that classic computers cannot solve.1600:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,150So what it's done is to take, it'staken those big smart computers1700:00:46,340 --> 00:00:47,870and it's taken them up a notch.1800:00:47,979 --> 00:00:50,590So whatever they were doing,this can do it faster.1900:00:51,810 --> 00:00:55,239Uh, increased improvements in,in cleaning and surgery, and2000:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,290we talked about that already.2100:00:57,749 --> 00:01:02,170Um, the computers, the robots,particularly in surgery, are smaller,2200:01:02,660 --> 00:01:04,239uh, and can do the work faster.2300:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,060Um, what kind of network doyou have in your neighborhood?2400:01:08,380 --> 00:01:12,850If you have a 5G network, youknow, that's because of the,2500:01:12,850 --> 00:01:14,649uh, artificial intelligence.2600:01:15,020 --> 00:01:19,009Because they want to push stuff outto the customer so you can watch those2700:01:19,049 --> 00:01:23,560movies and games faster with fewerinterruptions, et cetera, et cetera.2800:01:24,159 --> 00:01:30,070Um, and climate change mitigation isworking overtime, uh, for some to help2900:01:30,070 --> 00:01:32,160to decrease the climate change problem.3000:01:32,765 --> 00:01:33,835So, what are the risks?3100:01:33,835 --> 00:01:34,585Very quickly.3200:01:34,765 --> 00:01:38,955The risk is, uh, just like wealways said about any computer,3300:01:39,315 --> 00:01:41,145garbage in, garbage out.3400:01:41,455 --> 00:01:44,365Somebody has to put theinformation in the computer.3500:01:44,595 --> 00:01:46,244Somebody has to give it the data.3600:01:46,455 --> 00:01:48,565Somebody has to give it the proposition.3700:01:48,814 --> 00:01:50,744Somebody has to give it the problem.3800:01:51,044 --> 00:01:53,585That somebody is a human, initially.3900:01:53,774 --> 00:01:56,475So, who is that human or humans?4000:01:57,090 --> 00:01:58,850What, what is their understanding?4100:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320Uh, what, what are their proclivities?4200:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,710Are they biased?4300:02:02,950 --> 00:02:06,810Are they all of aparticular race or culture?4400:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,950And so, is what they putinto that computer skewed?4500:02:10,999 --> 00:02:15,680And sometimes, um, unconsciously, youknow, that means they're bad people.4600:02:15,999 --> 00:02:18,870And so, these are some of the thingsthat one has to be careful of.4700:02:19,660 --> 00:02:25,340Uh, with, with, um, information from,uh, the artificial intelligence vehicle.4800:02:25,790 --> 00:02:29,300Uh, and so you have to make, makesure that information makes sense.4900:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,400Another reason why you want to knowwhat your children are watching,5000:02:32,859 --> 00:02:34,840and what they're listening to, okay?5100:02:35,289 --> 00:02:35,989Safety.5200:02:36,580 --> 00:02:40,249Um, you could imagine, just likethere are good people in the world,5300:02:40,249 --> 00:02:41,370there are bad people in the world.5400:02:41,490 --> 00:02:44,110And those bad people in the worldare just as smart as some of5500:02:44,110 --> 00:02:45,200those good people in the world.5600:02:45,410 --> 00:02:46,940And they're working overtime.5700:02:47,230 --> 00:02:52,810You see how they can use that informationand technology to, uh, continue5800:02:52,820 --> 00:02:54,960along their bad or negative course.5900:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,979And so you want to be aware of that.6000:02:57,190 --> 00:03:00,330And profiling and, anddeception, sort of like bias.6100:03:00,750 --> 00:03:06,040That, um, uh, one, one of the chatbotssaid things that, um, uh, tell me6200:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,620about the doctors in the country.6300:03:08,090 --> 00:03:11,280And it says, well, the doctors aremale and they do this and do that.6400:03:12,260 --> 00:03:13,230The reality is.6500:03:13,690 --> 00:03:19,690More doctors graduated from medicalschool in 2024, female, not male, right?6600:03:19,870 --> 00:03:22,490So that's a bias in the system.6700:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,259No doubt put in when the data was put in,and maybe back then that was the case.6800:03:26,420 --> 00:03:27,560It's not the case now.6900:03:28,019 --> 00:03:30,500And so those are some of the thingsyou have to be concerned about.7000:03:30,709 --> 00:03:34,154And the same thing could beracial bias and etc., etc., etc.7100:03:34,644 --> 00:03:35,354Profiler.7200:03:35,634 --> 00:03:39,894Well, if you are this height and,and look this way and this color,7300:03:40,114 --> 00:03:44,304more likely than not, you're goingto do X as compared to doing Y.7400:03:44,864 --> 00:03:45,344Right?7500:03:45,534 --> 00:03:49,684So the law enforcement said, well, I'mgoing to stop him before he does X.7600:03:49,964 --> 00:03:52,334And so I'm, I'm, I'mprotecting these other people.7700:03:52,975 --> 00:03:54,704So again, you want to be careful of that.7800:03:55,495 --> 00:03:56,665Knowledge is power.7900:03:56,855 --> 00:04:01,455So if you're aware that that's aparticular problem with this, this8000:04:01,455 --> 00:04:05,605technology, then you can make surethat that doesn't cause a problem.8100:04:05,975 --> 00:04:08,904And again, some of the things wetalked about in health care, clinical8200:04:08,904 --> 00:04:13,204decision support, helping us doctorsto make the right decision about8300:04:13,264 --> 00:04:17,294what to do with patients, literaturesearches, procedure searches.8400:04:19,769 --> 00:04:22,050This is particularly for hospitals.8500:04:22,540 --> 00:04:27,810Real quickly before we close,this gentleman, Jeffrey Hinton, he8600:04:27,810 --> 00:04:30,520was vice president of Google, um.8700:04:30,709 --> 00:04:35,179And he resigned last year, and oneof the reasons he resigned was,8800:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,600and he's considered the god fatherof artificial intelligence Uh,8900:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,283I may have mentioned him before.9000:04:40,283 --> 00:04:41,684But he's at Sccree, ups.9100:04:42,224 --> 00:04:47,765His fear and his worry, and he hadto create AI, is that it's more9200:04:47,765 --> 00:04:49,555intelligent than we are right now.9300:04:49,724 --> 00:04:52,754Now, of course, the company said, no,no, no, no, we're, we're working on9400:04:52,754 --> 00:04:56,374it, we're, we have it under control,there's nothing to worry about, but9500:04:56,374 --> 00:04:58,594this guy helped invent it, and he quit.9600:04:59,239 --> 00:04:59,859He quit.9700:05:00,189 --> 00:05:03,349So I said, Hmm, I wonder why he quit.9800:05:05,510 --> 00:05:09,959What does he know that I don't know,since he created this, this technology.9900:05:10,369 --> 00:05:13,099And so what I'm sure hedidn't have to work anymore.10000:05:13,550 --> 00:05:17,620And so what he's doing is, Ithink he feels a little guilty.10100:05:17,830 --> 00:05:21,710And he's gone around trying to make itright, you know, and educate people.10200:05:23,559 --> 00:05:26,780But he's saying that it'smore intelligent than us.10300:05:27,234 --> 00:05:31,755Right now that it will figureout ways to manipulate us that10400:05:31,755 --> 00:05:33,684we cannot stop working on it.10500:05:34,195 --> 00:05:38,655Um, and, uh, and that he wantedto be able to speak freely.10600:05:39,474 --> 00:05:43,354Now, I don't know enough about it to doall these things, but I do know enough.10700:05:43,715 --> 00:05:48,795To just try to be careful and again,go back to our original belief.10800:05:48,795 --> 00:05:49,875Knowledge is power.10900:05:50,095 --> 00:05:51,025Knowledge is power.11000:05:51,025 --> 00:05:52,625I don't want something controlling me.11100:05:52,975 --> 00:05:57,145I want to have enough knowledge andinformation so at least I can protect11200:05:57,145 --> 00:05:59,895myself and those that I care about again.11300:05:59,895 --> 00:06:04,593The same thing we're talking about interms of limited memory and self aware.11400:06:04,593 --> 00:06:05,072A.11500:06:05,072 --> 00:06:06,508I real quickly.11600:06:06,508 --> 00:06:08,424We talked about sentience.11700:06:08,705 --> 00:06:09,975They're building a field.11800:06:10,415 --> 00:06:15,945Um, let's go back and then you rememberway back from the first podcast or the11900:06:15,945 --> 00:06:23,515first, uh, um, um, presentation we madeabout this, uh, in terms of masterclass12000:06:23,815 --> 00:06:25,345is our good friend, the amygdala.12100:06:26,234 --> 00:06:31,615If we cut the brain in half, uh, thatred area there is called the amygdala.12200:06:32,175 --> 00:06:35,735Uh, and the amygdala is theemotion center of the brain.12300:06:36,085 --> 00:06:39,995It's where the feelings come from,good feelings, bad feelings, right?12400:06:40,735 --> 00:06:47,365What distinguishes us, in myopinion, from, um, uh, Copilot or12500:06:47,365 --> 00:06:51,735Bard or some of these others thatthey don't have amygdalas yet.12600:06:54,355 --> 00:06:54,725Yet.12700:06:55,135 --> 00:06:56,664Well, I should say that I know of.12800:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960I should qualify that, right?12900:07:00,490 --> 00:07:06,210Because clearly, my belief is that oncethey get an amygdala or an amygdala13000:07:07,419 --> 00:07:13,880type structure or function or thatfunctionality, They can then feel.13100:07:14,130 --> 00:07:15,020They can then feel.13200:07:15,030 --> 00:07:17,990They can be happy or they can be sad.13300:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,460What do you do when you're happy?13400:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,529What do you do when you're sad?13500:07:21,820 --> 00:07:22,170Right?13600:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,879What, what, what do you dowhen you're running around13700:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,380and everything is going well?13800:07:26,569 --> 00:07:28,160What do you do when you're angry?13900:07:28,359 --> 00:07:30,179Anger is an emotion.14000:07:30,419 --> 00:07:31,459It's an emotion.14100:07:31,469 --> 00:07:33,400Love is an emotion.14200:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,280Uh, and I think most of us humanswould admit we don't 100 percent14300:07:39,310 --> 00:07:43,939understand all these emotions, letalone control them 100 percent of14400:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,309the time, right, if we choose to.14500:07:46,770 --> 00:07:51,185Um, think if you put that intothis powerful entity, That's14600:07:51,185 --> 00:07:52,775smarter than you, right?14700:07:52,784 --> 00:07:54,914Cause you made it and you made it.14800:07:54,914 --> 00:07:56,474So it would be smarter than you.14900:07:56,815 --> 00:08:02,564And then you, you give it the abilityto feel and experience emotion.15000:08:02,814 --> 00:08:03,774I'll just stop there.15100:08:03,775 --> 00:08:07,544I'm sure you're going to,I'll let you marinate on that.15200:08:10,395 --> 00:08:15,065I believe, and we're almost done, Ibelieve it is important that parents15300:08:15,065 --> 00:08:19,055don't have to be experts on computers,and I am certainly not suggesting that.15400:08:19,614 --> 00:08:23,414I am suggesting, though, as a parent,that you at least be able to speak15500:08:23,414 --> 00:08:25,075some of the language of computers.15600:08:25,404 --> 00:08:26,164Basic stuff.15700:08:26,765 --> 00:08:27,495Basic stuff.15800:08:27,765 --> 00:08:29,365Why do you need to speaksome of the language?15900:08:29,515 --> 00:08:31,304So, I'll tell you what this is.16000:08:31,544 --> 00:08:32,534No, no, no, don't do that.16100:08:32,664 --> 00:08:35,845I mean, they would love it, becausethey want to turn those tables, right?16200:08:36,015 --> 00:08:38,105You remember what it waslike to be a teenager?16300:08:38,305 --> 00:08:39,534You know, you wanted to assert.16400:08:40,505 --> 00:08:42,745That manhood or womanhood or whatever.16500:08:43,174 --> 00:08:46,175Uh, but, but, but you wantto speak the language.16600:08:46,565 --> 00:08:48,355What, what, what do Imean by speaking language?16700:08:48,724 --> 00:08:50,775You want to always be able to communicate.16800:08:51,295 --> 00:08:53,464Remember I always talkabout relationships, mutual16900:08:53,464 --> 00:08:54,875respect, mutual trust.17000:08:55,305 --> 00:09:00,375I believe the most important part ofthat trilogy is good communication.17100:09:00,775 --> 00:09:02,364You can fuss and fight with your kids.17200:09:02,364 --> 00:09:02,714Okay.17300:09:02,754 --> 00:09:03,334That's fine.17400:09:03,749 --> 00:09:07,920But you never, never, never, never, neverwant to lose communication with them.17500:09:08,470 --> 00:09:10,840You don't want them tostop talking to you, right?17600:09:11,390 --> 00:09:11,870Why?17700:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,959Because if they don't talk to you,you don't know what's going on.17800:09:15,420 --> 00:09:17,720And if you don't know what'sgoing on, you can't help.17900:09:17,940 --> 00:09:19,480I don't care how right you are.18000:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,860I don't care how, I think Itold the story, I don't know,18100:09:22,890 --> 00:09:24,370but I'll tell it real quick.18200:09:24,780 --> 00:09:27,849But when my sons, and they grew up in St.18300:09:27,849 --> 00:09:33,505Stephen's, when my sons were teenagers,They must've been preteen and teenager.18400:09:33,815 --> 00:09:37,075I had a thing about where you dress acertain way when you come to church.18500:09:37,455 --> 00:09:40,155I was taught as God'shouse, you be respectful.18600:09:40,465 --> 00:09:42,175You don't dress any way come to church.18700:09:42,875 --> 00:09:43,874Just, just my thing.18800:09:44,155 --> 00:09:47,335And so my, I had this thingabout you should wear a tie.18900:09:47,734 --> 00:09:52,444If you go to Sunday morning service,well, they thought that was silly.19000:09:53,964 --> 00:09:56,295I said, why do I have to wear a tie?19100:09:56,645 --> 00:09:58,344What, what, what difference does it make?19200:09:58,694 --> 00:09:59,794And I went through my whole day.19300:09:59,834 --> 00:10:00,865They still thought it was silly.19400:10:01,795 --> 00:10:04,575So I said, you know, the ultimate Trump.19500:10:04,874 --> 00:10:07,104I am your father, right?19600:10:07,995 --> 00:10:09,864You will do it, youknow, that whole thing.19700:10:09,865 --> 00:10:13,315I learned a long time ago that thatjust doesn't work after a while.19800:10:13,515 --> 00:10:14,285But, but, um.19900:10:14,855 --> 00:10:18,105Thank God, uh, that Godsaid, you know what?20000:10:18,405 --> 00:10:21,185Really Choctaw, does it really matter?20100:10:21,454 --> 00:10:25,225I mean, seriously, but this is my, myconversation with the person in the20200:10:25,225 --> 00:10:28,780mirror and, and I, and I came to theinclusion, it, it really doesn't matter20300:10:29,245 --> 00:10:32,905that what, what's most important thatthey go to church, that that thing20400:10:32,905 --> 00:10:34,825walk into the building, who cares?20500:10:35,185 --> 00:10:39,975Continue that conversation with them,uh, so that they can tell me when20600:10:39,975 --> 00:10:42,204they think I'm being silly, right?20700:10:42,324 --> 00:10:45,120Because if they're afraid of me, theysay, oh, no, I can't say that to dad.20800:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,400I'll get.20900:10:46,300 --> 00:10:50,859Now, I don't know, so then I'm goingto continue down this path being wrong,21000:10:51,209 --> 00:10:52,650and I'm certainly not reaching them.21100:10:52,780 --> 00:10:53,400What's my point?21200:10:53,449 --> 00:10:57,790My point is, you always want to keepcommunication with your kids, and21300:10:57,849 --> 00:10:59,239you don't have to always be right.21400:10:59,410 --> 00:11:02,219The other thing I learned fromthat very quickly is I went21500:11:02,219 --> 00:11:03,119back and apologized to them.21600:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,409I went back and said, you know what,you were right, and I was wrong.21700:11:07,430 --> 00:11:11,999I was way out in the field, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.21800:11:12,159 --> 00:11:13,089Why did I do that?21900:11:13,089 --> 00:11:14,634Because I'm trying to teach them.22000:11:14,905 --> 00:11:16,725that everybody makes mistakes.22100:11:17,265 --> 00:11:21,375And when you make a mistake, the way youget over it, the way you grow, the way22200:11:21,375 --> 00:11:23,695you learn from it, is you acknowledge it.22300:11:24,105 --> 00:11:24,865I'm sorry.22400:11:24,865 --> 00:11:25,545I screwed up.22500:11:25,575 --> 00:11:26,385I shouldn't have done it.22600:11:26,395 --> 00:11:27,414Please forgive me.22700:11:27,754 --> 00:11:28,524Blah, blah, blah.22800:11:28,525 --> 00:11:30,565God is not finished with me yet.22900:11:30,995 --> 00:11:34,475Whatever, whatever you want to say,but acknowledge it and acknowledge23000:11:34,475 --> 00:11:38,995it to the person, particularlychildren, particularly children, that23100:11:38,995 --> 00:11:40,155you're having this conversation with.23200:11:40,555 --> 00:11:45,735You can find information about artificialintelligence anywhere on, uh, on, online.23300:11:46,065 --> 00:11:50,365I would encourage you to go to variousuniverses, Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Yale,23400:11:50,385 --> 00:11:55,725Stanford, UCLA, USC, wherever you'recomfortable, and just put in artificial23500:11:55,725 --> 00:11:59,225intelligence and children, and you'll,you'll get a whole host of information.23600:12:00,610 --> 00:12:03,560In summary, artificialintelligence is not our future.23700:12:03,620 --> 00:12:04,450It is our present.23800:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,150It is here now.23900:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,890I would, I would argueit's been here for a while.24000:12:09,050 --> 00:12:13,709The most important part about thelearning is really, um, uh, the machine24100:12:13,709 --> 00:12:18,580learning, uh, which is the basic,and then it goes all the way up to,24200:12:18,900 --> 00:12:21,380um, the machine being able to feel.24300:12:21,570 --> 00:12:23,620Uh, the chatbots are very, very nice.24400:12:24,020 --> 00:12:27,540Uh, they're, they're put inplace to be, uh, evaluated and24500:12:27,540 --> 00:12:28,960to be attracted to children.24600:12:29,210 --> 00:12:32,859But as parents, it's our job toprotect our children from everything.24700:12:33,350 --> 00:12:36,530You know, particularly those thingsthat are not in their best interest.24800:12:36,900 --> 00:12:40,819Robots and, and certain types ofAI have been used for years, uh,24900:12:40,829 --> 00:12:45,749but it's important to recognizethat these artificial intelligence25000:12:45,939 --> 00:12:51,874types of material and, and, andrepresentatives have downsides.25100:12:52,084 --> 00:12:55,594And we need to be aware of thosedownsides because then and only25200:12:55,594 --> 00:12:57,484then can we protect our children.25300:12:57,784 --> 00:12:59,724Real quickly, my basic principles.25400:12:59,734 --> 00:13:01,984I always like to, um, mention this.25500:13:02,185 --> 00:13:03,974God is in charge of my life.25600:13:04,124 --> 00:13:04,974It has been.25700:13:05,305 --> 00:13:09,584Um, and, uh, he directswhere I go and what I do.25800:13:10,115 --> 00:13:12,545Um, I, I don't have bad days.25900:13:12,715 --> 00:13:14,755I figured out that mydays are good or bad.26000:13:15,015 --> 00:13:19,015When I said they were, and so Idon't, I no longer say they are bad.26100:13:20,145 --> 00:13:22,795Don't sweat the small stuffand most stuff is small.26200:13:23,275 --> 00:13:24,535Uh, I've learned that.26300:13:24,565 --> 00:13:28,255And so I don't worry about littlethings anymore as much as I used to.26400:13:28,634 --> 00:13:30,455Forgiveness is therapy.26500:13:30,714 --> 00:13:33,765So when people do or saythings to you that you feel.26600:13:34,134 --> 00:13:38,135Um, uh, is, is not, uh, appropriate.26700:13:38,345 --> 00:13:39,064Forgive them.26800:13:39,704 --> 00:13:40,395Forgive them.26900:13:40,764 --> 00:13:43,814Don't try to figure it out, don'tlook at the facts, just forgive them.27000:13:43,994 --> 00:13:50,844Um, uh, and finally, um, relationships,everything is a relationship.27100:13:51,290 --> 00:13:54,320Based on mutual respect, mutualtrust, good communication.27200:13:54,839 --> 00:13:58,189Um, if you have those three things,you have a good relationship.27300:13:58,609 --> 00:14:00,999If you do not, then you have work to do.27400:14:01,219 --> 00:14:02,339Are there any questions?27500:14:02,499 --> 00:14:04,169Anybody online with any questions?27600:14:04,170 --> 00:14:05,639Hi, Dr.27700:14:05,639 --> 00:14:05,729Tucker.27800:14:06,449 --> 00:14:08,389Um, I had a question.27900:14:08,389 --> 00:14:11,589I don't know if it was a year or two ago.28000:14:11,589 --> 00:14:17,584There was, um, I think it was New York,or Somewhere and there was a stadium28100:14:18,055 --> 00:14:22,755and there was a particular law firmrepresenting like a group And they had28200:14:22,765 --> 00:14:26,334to do they had like face recognitionand they didn't let those people28300:14:26,395 --> 00:14:29,955come into the stadium Is there any?28400:14:30,555 --> 00:14:34,084Like is the regulation againstthat like or is it just each28500:14:34,085 --> 00:14:35,505company can do what they want?28600:14:35,505 --> 00:14:39,275And if they don't like how you voted orhow you did something they can exclude28700:14:39,275 --> 00:14:43,105you from a venue even though you paidFor the tickets and you know, I think28800:14:43,105 --> 00:14:46,115it was like a basketball stadium orsome the basketball game or something28900:14:46,665 --> 00:14:50,375Yes, it was, and that's an excellentquestion, because, yeah, and your29000:14:50,375 --> 00:14:54,685question goes to, well, what kind ofregulation is protecting us, the public?29100:14:55,205 --> 00:14:58,395From all of these things that arehappening, and the reality is the29200:14:58,395 --> 00:15:03,855regulation is not fast enough, and it'snot smart enough, because you're right,29300:15:04,005 --> 00:15:08,685uh, law enforcement obviously is tryingto be ahead of the game, and if they29400:15:08,685 --> 00:15:13,255can put spatial recognition and identifyyou at a stadium among thousands of29500:15:13,265 --> 00:15:18,475people, uh, you really have your rightsbeing more limited than they should be.29600:15:18,715 --> 00:15:23,925The reality is that our Congress,most of them are, I don't know,29700:15:24,229 --> 00:15:28,939Septuagenarians or, or whatever,and they don't even understand29800:15:29,150 --> 00:15:31,150the, the artificial intelligence.29900:15:31,310 --> 00:15:32,270So it's a problem.30000:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,829They're trying to catch up.30100:15:34,220 --> 00:15:38,589They're using consultants and someof the people with AI, uh, with the30200:15:38,590 --> 00:15:40,680Microsoft and Google are trying to help.30300:15:41,140 --> 00:15:43,629But it's not there yet,to be honest with you.30400:15:43,900 --> 00:15:47,689And so right now, we donot have good regulation to30500:15:47,689 --> 00:15:49,680protect the public right now.30600:15:50,515 --> 00:15:50,895Thank you.30700:15:50,905 --> 00:15:51,505Good question.30800:15:52,125 --> 00:15:52,935Any other questions?30900:15:53,185 --> 00:15:53,585Yes, sir.31000:16:00,925 --> 00:16:02,904Some of what, uh, Faye was asking.31100:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,415The government is slow.31200:16:05,645 --> 00:16:10,535Um, you know, if you watch CNN oranything, you know, the process of getting31300:16:10,535 --> 00:16:14,665things done is very deliberate, and itgoes back and forth and back and forth.31400:16:14,844 --> 00:16:17,924And as we mentioned, thisartificial intelligence stuff31500:16:17,934 --> 00:16:19,864moves in seconds and minutes.31600:16:20,244 --> 00:16:22,775And so the government isalready at a disadvantage.31700:16:23,319 --> 00:16:28,020It is trying to do some of thosethings, but it is still very, very31800:16:28,020 --> 00:16:32,320slow, and chances are, even thoughit may do some things, it may not,31900:16:32,350 --> 00:16:33,910it may not really do it fast enough.32000:16:34,559 --> 00:16:37,620Um, I think that it'salready at the amygdala.32100:16:38,115 --> 00:16:40,115But that's just me, to be honest with.32200:16:40,425 --> 00:16:40,815Yes, ma'am.32300:16:43,285 --> 00:16:46,314Way faster than regulation.32400:16:46,584 --> 00:16:46,805Yeah.32500:16:46,905 --> 00:16:52,855So by the time the government catches upwith what they're doing right now, the32600:16:52,855 --> 00:16:56,655scientists have evolved 10, 15 years.32700:16:56,665 --> 00:17:01,820So all we have to dois then to Be careful.32800:17:02,270 --> 00:17:06,630Well, I think, I think the governmentis, it will do some things and they'll,32900:17:06,670 --> 00:17:08,280they'll try to make it retroactive.33000:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,119And so I don't want it to sound likethat nothing is done, but to your point,33100:17:12,420 --> 00:17:16,200scientists have already started before thegovernment even knew about the problem.33200:17:16,580 --> 00:17:19,129Uh, most of the times, then whenthe government finds out about it,33300:17:19,130 --> 00:17:20,899it has to understand the problem.33400:17:21,349 --> 00:17:24,279Um, and then after it understandsthe problem is then got to33500:17:24,279 --> 00:17:26,660agree of what the remedy is.33600:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,610And each one of those three stages,Takes months, sometimes months and33700:17:30,610 --> 00:17:35,460years, whereas, uh, this stuff is justgoing, you know, in seconds again.33800:17:35,830 --> 00:17:39,590Uh, so I think the government willdo some things, but it probably will33900:17:39,590 --> 00:17:44,350not be 100 percent adequate, which iswhy conversations like the ones we're34000:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,009having this morning are so important.34100:17:46,270 --> 00:17:50,889We have to do it ourselves and, andnot rely on the government 100%.34200:17:51,090 --> 00:17:54,670Yeah, the government may help, butwe, we've got to take care of our own.34300:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,120Uh, and again, knowledge is power.34400:17:59,195 --> 00:18:05,855When you're talking about AI, Iremember watching the, um, I think34500:18:05,855 --> 00:18:12,684it was Chicago police, um, on TVand it had show, it was AI that they34600:18:12,685 --> 00:18:18,414had used the system to determinewhether someone is guilty or innocent.34700:18:19,314 --> 00:18:26,284And they made a mistake in regards aboutpeople of color and it was never tested.34800:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,990On people of color.34900:18:28,190 --> 00:18:34,680It was tested on the other race andthey accused as they went with AI35000:18:35,160 --> 00:18:40,920and they accused a person of beingguilty of something and it was facial35100:18:40,989 --> 00:18:47,100acknowledge on it and the personwas not guilty and end up dying.35200:18:47,409 --> 00:18:51,760And this, this is one of theproblems with bias, with bias.35300:18:52,304 --> 00:18:58,425If, if I, if I look at, at, at Jesse,and he's wearing black shoes, and I35400:18:58,425 --> 00:19:03,165say, all people who wear black shoesare, and you can fill in the blank,35500:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,514whatever you want to fill in, that,that's the way I view people with black35600:19:06,515 --> 00:19:11,844shoes, so when I see somebody withblack shoes, I said, uh huh, I know.35700:19:12,195 --> 00:19:13,764All because I have that belief system.35800:19:13,764 --> 00:19:17,425Remember we talked about our beliefsaffects how we think and how we think35900:19:17,435 --> 00:19:22,125affects how We feel and how we feelaffects how we act if I have that belief36000:19:22,125 --> 00:19:25,904system that if you wear black shoesYou more likely than not are going36100:19:25,904 --> 00:19:30,224to steal somebody's purse or whateverHowever, you want to put it then it36200:19:30,224 --> 00:19:34,375is not that uncommon that i'm going tocreate stuff to that point in healthcare36300:19:34,405 --> 00:19:40,270And i've talked about this before Uh,we treated a heart attack A certain,36400:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,889we treated women with heart attackthe way, same way we treated with men.36500:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,230And that because it was based ondata that was biased against women.36600:19:49,819 --> 00:19:52,199Because the information thatwe used to come up with those36700:19:52,199 --> 00:19:53,610ideas didn't include women.36800:19:54,050 --> 00:19:56,979The same thing is true with,with, with different racial.36900:19:56,999 --> 00:19:58,530They didn't include African Americans.37000:19:58,790 --> 00:20:01,249They were, they only included Caucasians.37100:20:01,699 --> 00:20:04,009And, and so again,garbage in, garbage out.37200:20:04,629 --> 00:20:09,000Uh, and, and that, that's one of theconcerns, uh, but at least if you're aware37300:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,220of it, then you don't accept everythingjust because they say it is, uh, I am, and37400:20:14,220 --> 00:20:18,509I, I mentioned this in sense of it, I, Iwon't, I'm really skeptical about numbers,37500:20:19,209 --> 00:20:23,810you give me a number, you know, I'm goingto send, so where'd you get that number?37600:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,170And how did, how did they get it?37700:20:26,220 --> 00:20:26,710Whatever.37800:20:27,060 --> 00:20:31,770Because many times numbers andpseudoscience or fake science37900:20:31,990 --> 00:20:33,870are used to influence people.38000:20:34,230 --> 00:20:35,649Because then it stops debate.38100:20:35,660 --> 00:20:38,279You don't question, well, youknow, they said that, that the38200:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,720statistics say blah, blah, blah.38300:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,139Well, what's statistics?38400:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,860Who put those statistics together?38500:20:42,860 --> 00:20:43,450Blah, blah, blah.38600:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,170So my, my suggestion is be alittle skeptical about everything.38700:20:47,780 --> 00:20:51,050You know, that doesn't mean you'redistrustful, but ask questions.38800:20:51,470 --> 00:20:52,250Ask questions.38900:20:52,630 --> 00:20:57,040I, and I think our government willhelp us, but I, I, I believe it won't39000:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,360be fastened and that we're going tohave to supplement that protection by39100:21:02,370 --> 00:21:04,230having knowledge and power ourselves.39200:21:04,879 --> 00:21:10,659Doc, let me, let me say this withoutjeopardizing myself as much as I39300:21:10,659 --> 00:21:13,630possibly can, uh, incident did happen.39400:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,830What we're doing, what we're tryingto do was put in the dump starts in,39500:21:18,050 --> 00:21:23,700and I won't go into that detail, to,uh, have the machine to, to adhere to39600:21:23,769 --> 00:21:25,530our, uh, our, uh, our, uh, Okay, okay.39700:21:25,530 --> 00:21:29,220That's what I'm saying aboutit is the machine exceeds, like39800:21:29,250 --> 00:21:30,350it thinks faster than we do.39900:21:30,500 --> 00:21:31,300Yes, it does.40000:21:31,310 --> 00:21:35,430So it exceeded the parameters thatwe were trying to put in for it.40100:21:35,590 --> 00:21:36,110Yes.40200:21:36,319 --> 00:21:37,399They're still working on it.40300:21:37,439 --> 00:21:39,320Yes, I understand.40400:21:39,419 --> 00:21:41,240Uh, but that's as muchas I can say about it.40500:21:41,269 --> 00:21:42,699No, I, I, I understand.40600:21:42,699 --> 00:21:43,369I understand exactly.40700:21:43,749 --> 00:21:45,609And my point is that.40800:21:46,030 --> 00:21:50,149Since, since we humans are catchingup, you know, and, and we, we didn't40900:21:50,149 --> 00:21:51,639know how this stuff's going to happen.41000:21:51,909 --> 00:21:55,189So, so we have the first thingis being aware of the problem.41100:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,749Now we can come up withways to mitigate that.41200:21:57,860 --> 00:22:01,909You know, we could modify the machines,change the data, do different things.41300:22:02,230 --> 00:22:03,590Whatever that works.41400:22:03,990 --> 00:22:09,370But, but we need to be aware thatit's not 100%, 100%, um, and, and,41500:22:09,370 --> 00:22:12,899and that's just the knowledge andthe gift that God has given us.41600:22:13,099 --> 00:22:13,459Yeah.41700:22:13,590 --> 00:22:14,000Right.41800:22:14,110 --> 00:22:16,040That, that God expects us.41900:22:16,524 --> 00:22:20,865To use the minds that he's given usand the way he's blessed us and said42000:22:21,095 --> 00:22:25,955give me more information I'm not quitethere yet, and we can do that in love.42100:22:25,955 --> 00:22:28,355It doesn't have to be aconfrontational thing or a mean42200:22:28,365 --> 00:22:30,714thing Uh, but that's how we grow.42300:22:30,844 --> 00:22:35,784That's how we all grow the way I canunderstand why the gentleman resigned42400:22:35,785 --> 00:22:41,525I can understand so can I so can Ibecause if i'm in a situation where42500:22:41,525 --> 00:22:47,940I fundamentally disagree With what'sgoing on, and I cannot change it, or42600:22:47,980 --> 00:22:50,450I feel like I'm not being listened to.42700:22:51,145 --> 00:22:53,705I will, I will move to adifferent, different area.42800:22:53,995 --> 00:22:55,095I, I will walk away.42900:22:55,804 --> 00:22:56,094Yeah.43000:22:56,324 --> 00:23:01,835Um, uh, and, and I think that that's okay,but, but we, we have to stay in power.43100:23:01,965 --> 00:23:02,825That's what I'm trying to say.43200:23:03,064 --> 00:23:04,195We don't want to be limits.43300:23:04,205 --> 00:23:07,035We don't want to be led, you know,this way, that way, that way.43400:23:07,995 --> 00:23:08,954Any other questions?43500:23:09,185 --> 00:23:10,525I just wanted to make a comment.43600:23:10,625 --> 00:23:15,475Um, in my experience with it, I wasat my beautician and she's like, Oh,43700:23:15,505 --> 00:23:18,385I can show you what you look like,but like a different hairstyle.43800:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,774She a picture of you.43900:23:20,215 --> 00:23:25,164So she took a picture on her phone andthen it made all of these images with44000:23:25,164 --> 00:23:28,244my face and like put me in the body.44100:23:28,244 --> 00:23:29,195So I'm going to show you.44200:23:29,195 --> 00:23:31,945So this one of them, so I'mnot sure if you can see it.44300:23:31,945 --> 00:23:32,724So this is what.44400:23:33,225 --> 00:23:38,294She took my face and that's the imagethat came out, but she could like post44500:23:38,294 --> 00:23:40,254that someplace and say that was face.44600:23:40,254 --> 00:23:41,684She was, you know what I mean.44700:23:41,684 --> 00:23:44,194So that kind of scared mebecause it was different.44800:23:44,344 --> 00:23:47,324I mean, there's other hairstyles thatit showed and, you know, different44900:23:47,524 --> 00:23:53,304clothes and it was like instantthat she made this, you know, right.45000:23:55,035 --> 00:23:58,305Well, you know, that battle is beingfought right now in places like45100:23:58,305 --> 00:24:02,165Hollywood and all the people whoare very artistic, who use, because45200:24:02,165 --> 00:24:03,454that's, I didn't even go into that.45300:24:03,654 --> 00:24:09,154That's a whole different area in terms ofthe arts, you know, pictures and images,45400:24:09,655 --> 00:24:11,964which are even more difficult to control.45500:24:12,174 --> 00:24:13,605But that's clearly a part of it.45600:24:14,165 --> 00:24:18,514You know, because someone couldhijack your, your image, you know,45700:24:18,514 --> 00:24:21,165and say, is this the person, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, and I say,45800:24:21,165 --> 00:24:24,235yeah, that's her, that's her, andyou don't know anything about that.45900:24:24,435 --> 00:24:26,665And these are some of the thingsthat we, we have to correct46000:24:26,905 --> 00:24:28,595and just, just to be aware of.46100:24:28,954 --> 00:24:30,805Yeah, but that, that isdefinitely a problem.46200:24:31,145 --> 00:24:34,114And it's more difficult, Ithink, to control than the words.46300:24:34,865 --> 00:24:39,795Yeah, yeah, because I just, I didn'tknow what I thought it was going to show,46400:24:40,375 --> 00:24:42,185but I was just like, oh my goodness.46500:24:43,525 --> 00:24:44,315Yeah, yeah.46600:24:44,554 --> 00:24:48,005And probably the safest thingis to just say, no, thank you.46700:24:48,035 --> 00:24:48,935No, that's okay.46800:24:49,184 --> 00:24:53,034I, I, it's great young people because theytake pictures all the time and selfies and46900:24:53,065 --> 00:24:54,915this, they don't think anything about it.47000:24:55,145 --> 00:24:59,025But that, that's where it's probablyjust to slow it down a bit if possible.47100:24:59,215 --> 00:25:00,025No, good, good point.47200:25:00,970 --> 00:25:04,540Sure, sure, you don't even thinkabout it, because it's done so fast47300:25:04,540 --> 00:25:05,860and you don't want to be the bad guy.47400:25:07,124 --> 00:25:12,614Right, right, right, becauseif they have no picture.47500:25:12,704 --> 00:25:13,614Yeah, exactly.47600:25:13,954 --> 00:25:14,485Exactly.47700:25:14,674 --> 00:25:15,274Good point.47800:25:15,485 --> 00:25:17,704Well, it's happeningright now in Hollywood.47900:25:18,214 --> 00:25:25,684Um, the, the artist and, and the, uh,the movie stars are realizing that48000:25:25,724 --> 00:25:33,584out there, someone is posting picturesof them that created, uh, with AI.48100:25:33,584 --> 00:25:35,455It's not a real picture, but it is.48200:25:35,794 --> 00:25:36,995But it looks so real.48300:25:36,995 --> 00:25:37,294Right.48400:25:37,394 --> 00:25:38,284And you can't tell.48500:25:38,304 --> 00:25:42,655Like you say, they can, theycan place that image wherever,48600:25:43,104 --> 00:25:45,114either to damage or to benefit us.48700:25:45,195 --> 00:25:48,495So we have to be careful thatthe risk is out there already.48800:25:48,745 --> 00:25:49,054Right.48900:25:49,274 --> 00:25:49,964And, and think about it.49000:25:49,964 --> 00:25:50,725If you're an artist.49100:25:51,385 --> 00:25:56,035And your livelihood is based on yourcreativity, and someone steals your49200:25:56,035 --> 00:25:58,045creativity and then embellishes it.49300:25:58,345 --> 00:26:01,804They can put you out ofbusiness, or your career is over.49400:26:02,435 --> 00:26:04,705Because the public doesn't know, you know.49500:26:04,885 --> 00:26:07,475And these are battles thatare being fought right now.49600:26:07,904 --> 00:26:10,685And they haven't been resolvedyet, but they're being fought.49700:26:16,255 --> 00:26:17,825Right, while they were demonstrated.49800:26:18,555 --> 00:26:19,325Yeah, yeah.49900:26:22,705 --> 00:26:26,465They can use their images and put themin movies without even having them there.50000:26:26,770 --> 00:26:30,679And we can tell the difference and theydo that to some extent, but they put50100:26:30,679 --> 00:26:34,909some of the movies and make them lookyounger, you know, and you said, no,50200:26:34,909 --> 00:26:39,749that, that person that's old as I am,how can they look like, how would they50300:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,500look that way, you know, all of thisis happening before I was very serious.50400:26:44,839 --> 00:26:45,129Right.50500:26:45,159 --> 00:26:46,199And they don't have to get paid for it.50600:26:46,449 --> 00:26:49,929And that's what I mean, that the companycan just kick them out and says, no, no,50700:26:49,930 --> 00:26:55,120no, we're going to go with the avatar,you know, your avatar, we don't need you.50800:26:55,380 --> 00:26:56,630We just use your avatar.50900:26:57,215 --> 00:26:57,735Exactly.51000:26:58,145 --> 00:27:00,945You know, uh, just aword about the profiling.51100:27:01,515 --> 00:27:02,425Aspect of it.51200:27:02,515 --> 00:27:02,895Mm hmm.51300:27:03,225 --> 00:27:08,525Uh, there was a movie called theminority report Okay, it does that51400:27:08,565 --> 00:27:13,045if you if you haven't watched thatthat And I think it's like I don't51500:27:13,045 --> 00:27:14,765know seven eight ten years ago.51600:27:14,925 --> 00:27:20,801That was with tom cruise uh, believeeither him or or matt damon or Right.51700:27:20,801 --> 00:27:24,235And it was one of those futuristic movies.51800:27:24,245 --> 00:27:29,655Yes, and they would, it would arrestpeople just on based on the information.51900:27:29,694 --> 00:27:30,134Right.52000:27:30,445 --> 00:27:32,665You know, five years fromnow, you're going to do this.52100:27:32,675 --> 00:27:33,424So, right, right.52200:27:33,425 --> 00:27:34,915So they would arrest you ahead of time.52300:27:35,935 --> 00:27:38,985And then the problem is because if youget in the computer, then you can screw52400:27:38,985 --> 00:27:41,605it up and make people get arrested who.52500:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,850Shouldn't get arrested.52600:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,490I think that was part of the whole plot.52700:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,720Yeah.52800:27:45,970 --> 00:27:46,270Yeah.52900:27:46,910 --> 00:27:47,220Right.53000:27:47,980 --> 00:27:51,600And, and again, I, you know, I, thisis my opinion and I'll stop with it.53100:27:51,790 --> 00:27:56,949I think, you know, God sets upthings a certain way for a reason.53200:27:57,420 --> 00:28:00,869Now we, we humans try to understandit and I'm a scientist and I try53300:28:00,869 --> 00:28:05,610to understand it, but at the endof the day, you know, we may not53400:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,190understand it a hundred percent.53500:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,700Um, and a lot of times when we try tounderstand it so much, we screw it up.53600:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,110We screw it up.53700:28:13,510 --> 00:28:15,900Uh, but, but this is where we are now.53800:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,280This is where we are now.53900:28:17,530 --> 00:28:20,170And I think all of us,Christians and everybody else,54000:28:20,390 --> 00:28:21,759we need to be knowledgeable.54100:28:22,060 --> 00:28:23,219We need to be knowledgeable.54200:28:23,219 --> 00:28:24,160We need to study.54300:28:24,170 --> 00:28:25,110We need to read.54400:28:25,439 --> 00:28:26,589We need to understand.54500:28:26,590 --> 00:28:32,400We need to teach, educate, et cetera, sowe can lead in a proper, a proper way.54600:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,560Any other slides?54700:28:33,900 --> 00:28:34,900I mean, any other questions?54800:28:35,625 --> 00:28:38,064I know it's harsh, indeed.54900:28:40,045 --> 00:28:40,525Yes, sir.55000:28:41,014 --> 00:28:43,414Pastor Jose Rivas: Not a question,but I think it would be good to55100:28:43,424 --> 00:28:46,344bring this topic, uh, into church.55200:28:47,635 --> 00:28:53,504So, because, I mean, once, uh,I have to tell Siri to shut up55300:28:53,504 --> 00:28:53,804Dr William T. Choctaw: here.55400:28:53,825 --> 00:28:56,874Ha ha.55500:28:57,534 --> 00:28:58,774So your phone is going off.55600:28:58,814 --> 00:28:59,324I was like, yeah.55700:29:01,314 --> 00:29:02,495They're just watching you speak, man.55800:29:02,495 --> 00:29:03,994Yeah,55900:29:05,675 --> 00:29:07,754Pastor Jose Rivas: because ofthe, you know how the end times56000:29:07,754 --> 00:29:09,175are, I mean, are coming in.56100:29:09,475 --> 00:29:13,604And who knows, this might bebabble hour, or babble problem.56200:29:13,804 --> 00:29:18,694This thing, you know, bringing to apoint so we can be recognized in such56300:29:18,694 --> 00:29:20,404a way that it's our own distraction.56400:29:20,814 --> 00:29:22,124I mean, that's going to the limit.56500:29:22,134 --> 00:29:27,410But what I'm saying is it's importantfor us to know to So how to teach in the56600:29:27,410 --> 00:29:31,980church, because we can go to the fanaticside or the unrealistic side, but we56700:29:31,990 --> 00:29:38,140have to be knowledgeable on that too,because it will, it will involve us.56800:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,769And we are involved already.56900:29:39,950 --> 00:29:43,109I mean, it's either withknowledge or without it.57000:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,939Dr William T. Choctaw: Thisthing, you know, pastors, I57100:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,229think that's an excellent point.57200:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,659I, I, I, I, and this is just me now.57300:29:49,970 --> 00:29:56,390I, I think as a Christian, the way Ievangelize, Um, is I, again, I think you57400:29:56,390 --> 00:30:01,490go where people are, you know, and ifwe're concerned about losing people, ask57500:30:01,490 --> 00:30:03,130yourself, well, why is that happening?57600:30:03,510 --> 00:30:06,130And I'm going to submitit's not always their fault.57700:30:06,479 --> 00:30:10,860Maybe, just maybe, we Christianscan do a little better.57800:30:11,109 --> 00:30:16,310Maybe, to your point, we can reach outto them and say, you know what, we're57900:30:16,310 --> 00:30:17,780going to have a discussion about AI.58000:30:18,475 --> 00:30:22,945Because we recognize blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that maybe58100:30:23,205 --> 00:30:26,045that, that people say, well, you know,I'm going to start going to that church58200:30:26,045 --> 00:30:29,444because I, I've been worried aboutthis stuff and, or whether it's don't58300:30:29,445 --> 00:30:35,164make a mess or whatever, that the morerelevant we are to their life allows58400:30:35,164 --> 00:30:39,015them to maybe to pay more attention towhat we want to communicate to them.58500:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,500But, but if they don't believe thatwe're relevant to their life, they,58600:30:43,510 --> 00:30:46,850they may say, well, you know, I'vegot so much to do over here, I, I,58700:30:46,850 --> 00:30:48,410I'm sorry, but thank you very much.58800:30:48,660 --> 00:30:50,650And so, to your point,I, I agree with you.58900:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,060I think the more we can do, uh,and hence, one of the reasons59000:30:54,060 --> 00:30:57,990for these masterclasses, uh,is to say, this is real world.59100:30:58,210 --> 00:30:59,180We understand that.59200:30:59,190 --> 00:31:00,190We all live in it.59300:31:00,210 --> 00:31:02,170This is how we get through it.59400:31:02,510 --> 00:31:05,110How can we help you to getthrough it, type thing.59500:31:05,540 --> 00:31:09,000Um, and that that may be oneof the best ways to evangelize.59600:31:09,430 --> 00:31:14,500Other than standing up high and speakingdown low, uh, to folks about what they59700:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,100should and should not do, just my opinion.59800:31:17,340 --> 00:31:21,220Any other questions, comments,pastor Vis, would you close us59900:31:21,220 --> 00:31:22,420with the word of prayer, please?60000:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,110Pastor Jose Rivas: Yeah, heaven.60100:31:23,115 --> 00:31:27,640Father, we thank you for this day,Lord God in the word on me, 29 29.60200:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,500It says that the things hiddenbelongs to you and the one60300:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,780that reveals our for ourself.60400:31:35,665 --> 00:31:36,860And Father, we thank you.60500:31:37,085 --> 00:31:39,225For even science belongs to you.60600:31:39,405 --> 00:31:43,725You are the all knowledge,omniscient God whom we serve.60700:31:44,585 --> 00:31:47,105Therefore, Lord God, we thankyou for this opportunity.60800:31:47,285 --> 00:31:48,405Thank you for Dr.60900:31:48,445 --> 00:31:51,604Chao Tao and the group, LordGod, that make this possible.61000:31:53,255 --> 00:31:58,505Bring us that information so we canbe better prepared for Whatever you61100:31:58,505 --> 00:32:05,435have us to do today and in the nearfuture, and in the future way beyond.61200:32:05,675 --> 00:32:11,235Let us be the light of this world andhelp us be the salt, your precious name.61300:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,725We ask, and we thank you for everything.61400:32:13,995 --> 00:32:14,535Amen.61500:32:14,805 --> 00:32:15,165Amen.61600:32:15,170 --> 00:32:15,450Dr William T. Choctaw: Amen.61700:32:15,450 --> 00:32:15,730Amen.61800:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,090Amen.61900:32:16,560 --> 00:32:16,850Amen.62000:32:17,145 --> 00:32:17,505Thank you.62100:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,890Bye-Bye bye.62200:32:27,740 --> 00:32:28,090Uhhuh.