The Symphony of Life: Reverend John Nickens on Intuition, Music, and Authenticity

100:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,404Speaker 1: Welcome to the Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 200:00:02,504 --> 00:00:08,064podcast with Dr William Chokta, MDJD. Our mission is to empower 300:00:08,125 --> 00:00:11,897you with the knowledge and the tools you need to thrive in all 400:00:12,099 --> 00:00:16,184aspects of your life. Join us now as we discuss everything 500:00:16,265 --> 00:00:19,823from nutrition and exercise to money management and personal 600:00:19,842 --> 00:00:24,733growth. Dr Chokta will provide insightful advice on how to 700:00:24,774 --> 00:00:28,064improve your physical and financial health, as well as 800:00:28,103 --> 00:00:31,460your emotional and mental well-being. Whether you're 900:00:31,481 --> 00:00:35,915looking to boost your energy levels, unlock financial freedom1000:00:35,915 --> 00:00:40,228or cultivate a more positive mindset, we've got you covered. 1100:00:41,799 --> 00:00:45,909Get ready to become the best version of yourself? So let's 1200:00:45,951 --> 00:00:50,329get started. Here's Dr William Chokta, MDJD. 1300:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,045Speaker 2: Welcome to the Healthy, wealthy and Wise 1400:00:54,067 --> 00:00:58,801podcast. I'm delighted to have you with us today, and today we 1500:00:58,841 --> 00:01:03,847have a very unique topic. We're going to talk about leadership, 1600:01:04,268 --> 00:01:06,379and we're going to talk about a number of issues, but we're 1700:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,141going to talk about it from a unique perspective. We're going 1800:01:10,161 --> 00:01:13,929to interview a very outstanding and dynamic young man by the 1900:01:13,968 --> 00:01:19,906name of Vincent. Vincent is 17 years old and he's a member of 2000:01:19,965 --> 00:01:25,513that Gen Z group that we hear somuch about. I'm the favorite of2100:01:25,513 --> 00:01:29,987Vincent. I'm the extreme, but one of the things I have learned2200:01:29,987 --> 00:01:34,760is that the Gen Z individuals have a unique perspective on 2300:01:34,820 --> 00:01:39,734life, and not only is their perspective on life unique, we 2400:01:39,775 --> 00:01:43,245can all benefit just from talking to each other and 2500:01:43,305 --> 00:01:50,290exchanging ideas. So this is thethrill, the surprise, the gem 2600:01:50,409 --> 00:01:54,447that we have for you today. As always, I like to start off with2700:01:54,447 --> 00:01:57,587my beliefs. I believe that lifeis about being of service to 2800:01:57,667 --> 00:02:01,701other people. I believe knowledge is power. I believe 2900:02:01,781 --> 00:02:06,325leaders can change the world. This is part of our masterclass 3000:02:06,364 --> 00:02:10,206series, these podcasts, and basically it has to do with 3100:02:10,266 --> 00:02:14,186healthcare, it has to do with education and has to do with 3200:02:14,467 --> 00:02:19,205spirituality. One of the areas that we're going to dev into is 3300:02:19,264 --> 00:02:25,385the education area and how that has impacted us individually and3400:02:25,385 --> 00:02:29,286indirectly. And so we're going to talk about education from the3500:02:29,286 --> 00:02:33,302perspective of our interviewee today, vincent, and have him 3600:02:33,342 --> 00:02:37,092just sort of bring us up today with what's going on and how 3700:02:37,151 --> 00:02:40,986things have developed in his life. He's at a very unique 3800:02:41,087 --> 00:02:43,679flexion point in his life and we're going to have him talk 3900:02:43,699 --> 00:02:48,008about that and how he got there,what he's learned and what he's4000:02:48,008 --> 00:02:52,930doing to move on. As always, we'd like to give you an outline4100:02:52,930 --> 00:02:55,801, and the outline is that we're going to introduce Vincent to 4200:02:55,862 --> 00:03:00,961you shortly. We're going to talkabout leadership. In addition 4300:03:01,002 --> 00:03:04,917to that, some of the challenges that he's gone through, 4400:03:05,016 --> 00:03:09,852certainly in terms of the COVID period. We're going to talk 4500:03:09,893 --> 00:03:12,721about soccer, which is one of the loves of his life, and how 4600:03:12,782 --> 00:03:15,992that is important to his development and how that has 4700:03:16,052 --> 00:03:19,626helped him, and about his outlook and his plans for the 4800:03:19,686 --> 00:03:26,131future. As I said, we all know that the Gen Z is a unique 4900:03:26,192 --> 00:03:29,390generation, and a couple of things that have been said about5000:03:29,390 --> 00:03:33,026this generation is that they tend to be the lonelier 5100:03:33,206 --> 00:03:36,090generation. I'm not exactly surewhat that means, but I think 5200:03:36,169 --> 00:03:41,006part of it means that they have not had a privilege of the 5300:03:41,145 --> 00:03:44,661socialization that a lot of us sort of grew up with, and so 5400:03:44,700 --> 00:03:51,655they tend to use their phones and their computers and insulate5500:03:51,655 --> 00:03:57,086themselves and calm themselves and learn in ways that a lot of 5600:03:57,207 --> 00:04:00,062us, certainly back in the baby boom generation, did not learn. 5700:04:02,460 --> 00:04:05,606One of the other issues that's said about the Gen Z generation 5800:04:06,027 --> 00:04:09,824is that they are more diverse and they're more comfortable 5900:04:09,905 --> 00:04:13,670with diversity and those of us back in the baby boomers and 6000:04:13,790 --> 00:04:16,201others who've struggled and fought the wars and this, and 6100:04:16,242 --> 00:04:20,040that the Gen Z folks don't worryabout that a lot. They just 6200:04:20,060 --> 00:04:23,322sort of go with the flow, and that's a good thing and that's 6300:04:23,362 --> 00:04:26,538something that I think that we can all learn about in terms of 6400:04:26,577 --> 00:04:32,896what we have to do and that sortof thing. Thank you issue that 6500:04:32,978 --> 00:04:37,172came up when I did some researchwas that they are also very 6600:04:37,232 --> 00:04:39,437concerned about their mental health, which I found 6700:04:39,478 --> 00:04:47,235interesting and to some extent, unique. So, not to spend too 6800:04:47,254 --> 00:04:50,440much more time, let's go ahead and get into it, let's get right6900:04:50,440 --> 00:04:57,139on it. So, benson, why don't you tell us who you are and how 7000:04:57,259 --> 00:04:59,165old you are and what state you live in? 7100:05:00,759 --> 00:05:04,406Speaker 3: I live in the state of California, I am 17 years old7200:05:04,406 --> 00:05:08,194and I am going into my senior year of high school. 7300:05:08,997 --> 00:05:13,302Speaker 2: Okay, you go into your senior year of high school.7400:05:13,302 --> 00:05:21,838Were there any things that you learned? Well, let me back up. 7500:05:23,041 --> 00:05:26,752Has your journey to your senior year of high school been easy or7600:05:26,752 --> 00:05:31,302has it been hard? It's been challenging. What are some of 7700:05:31,322 --> 00:05:32,004those challenges? 7800:05:33,386 --> 00:05:35,370Speaker 3: For. The first one isCOVID. 7900:05:37,595 --> 00:05:38,959Speaker 2: How was that a challenge for you? 8000:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,125Speaker 3: It was a challenge, because I'll do middle school. 8100:05:46,274 --> 00:05:53,235That's when COVID really startedto come up. Okay, yeah. So I 8200:05:53,297 --> 00:05:58,505mean we thought that for stream break we were going to get two 8300:05:58,526 --> 00:06:05,185weeks off or three weeks off because COVID was rising, ended 8400:06:05,245 --> 00:06:09,237up turning into two and a half years of no in Persian school. 8500:06:09,517 --> 00:06:12,204Speaker 2: Two and a half years.So how did you adjust to that? 8600:06:14,939 --> 00:06:18,908Speaker 3: So some kids can agree with me, some kids will 8700:06:18,947 --> 00:06:23,757not. I feel like throughout my eighth grade year coming into my8800:06:23,757 --> 00:06:34,918high school, my freshman year, and we were all online and it 8900:06:34,959 --> 00:06:40,771was hard but easy, because for me, I had more distractions in 9000:06:40,851 --> 00:06:45,461school than at home but at the same time, I had the ability to 9100:06:46,362 --> 00:06:50,776pick and choose when I could do my schooling at home. Vice versa9200:06:50,776 --> 00:06:55,351, if I would go to school, I'd have that time set where I'd 9300:06:55,391 --> 00:06:58,362have to go to this class at thistime, I'd have to do homework 9400:06:58,442 --> 00:07:02,235at this time, or so, on and so forth, so you had more 9500:07:02,454 --> 00:07:07,209flexibility. Basically, yeah, oh, okay. And I feel like a lot of9600:07:07,209 --> 00:07:10,918kids take advantage of that andgot their classes done, and a 9700:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,944lot of kids didn't take advantage of that and that 9800:07:13,985 --> 00:07:17,403resulted into kids losing creditto their freshman and sophomore9900:07:17,403 --> 00:07:20,615year because they didn't fulfill the requirements they 10000:07:20,656 --> 00:07:25,062needed to. Okay, okay so what? 10100:07:25,182 --> 00:07:28,067Speaker 2: so from an academic point of view, do you think 10200:07:28,127 --> 00:07:31,672COVID or the pandemic and being out of school that created time 10300:07:31,692 --> 00:07:35,103where you had to do everything on zoom? I guess? What was that?10400:07:35,103 --> 00:07:36,567A plus or minus for you? 10500:07:38,863 --> 00:07:43,860Speaker 3: Both because well, let's get into the pluses I was 10600:07:43,901 --> 00:07:46,543more focused, I was more dedicated into getting good 10700:07:46,564 --> 00:07:51,050grades because I mean I wouldn'twant to not graduate because I 10800:07:51,089 --> 00:07:57,502missed credits my freshman year.A negative component of that 10900:07:57,541 --> 00:08:01,026was there was a lot of issues with the computers and a lot of 11000:08:01,086 --> 00:08:05,930issues with the, say, the internet. Say, basically, your 11100:08:05,971 --> 00:08:09,214class rely on the internet and if the internet went out, I mean11200:08:09,214 --> 00:08:14,024you can't do your class. So I feel like also that's why a lot 11300:08:14,045 --> 00:08:17,951of kids struggled, because maybethey didn't have an internet 11400:08:18,290 --> 00:08:21,134and they couldn't go to school or didn't have good internet. 11500:08:21,321 --> 00:08:23,562Yeah, good, okay, okay. 11600:08:23,983 --> 00:08:27,649Speaker 2: So did you have good internet? Oh yeah, I could do. 11700:08:28,562 --> 00:08:37,370Okay good, how did you deal withnot being around your friends 11800:08:37,590 --> 00:08:42,034and that sort of thing? Was thata plus or a minus, or how did 11900:08:42,054 --> 00:08:42,895you adjust to that? 12000:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,986Speaker 3: To be honest, it was a plus because it was a 12100:08:46,027 --> 00:08:50,822transition to a grade to high school. So in middle school, I 12200:08:50,863 --> 00:08:54,828feel like that's when kids startto, I guess, develop into their12300:08:54,828 --> 00:08:57,693own selves and start exploring more, because I mean, you're 12400:08:57,714 --> 00:09:00,860basically graduating from elementary to middle school and 12500:09:00,879 --> 00:09:04,203I feel like middle school is where you really get to 12600:09:04,323 --> 00:09:07,687experience that change of getting six, seven classes a day12700:09:07,687 --> 00:09:13,533, getting six, seven different teachers, having to do PE, 12800:09:14,073 --> 00:09:18,124having to do hardcore PE for thefirst time. Okay, yeah, and I 12900:09:18,163 --> 00:09:23,025feel like my friends were a bad influence on me. In what way? 13000:09:24,301 --> 00:09:30,668Smoking gangs, all that. So as soon as I was isolated from that13100:09:30,668 --> 00:09:35,874environment, I mean I found newfriends that can provide a 13200:09:35,913 --> 00:09:36,715better environment. 13300:09:36,754 --> 00:09:39,802Speaker 2: Interesting. So it was a plus because it allows you13400:09:39,802 --> 00:09:42,927to separate from the present group that was there at the 13500:09:42,967 --> 00:09:46,211school and gave you the opportunity to just look at 13600:09:46,352 --> 00:09:50,186alternative associations, and that was a plus for you. It was 13700:09:50,225 --> 00:09:57,265a plus for me. Excellent, excellent, what? Have you been 13800:09:57,306 --> 00:10:00,870involved in any type of leadership at your school or 13900:10:00,910 --> 00:10:04,335related to your school and, if so, tell me about that. 14000:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,571Speaker 3: I'd say I was captainof my varsity soccer team for 14100:10:09,811 --> 00:10:10,633about three years now. 14200:10:12,004 --> 00:10:13,048Speaker 2: Okay, and how did that come about? 14300:10:14,841 --> 00:10:18,106Speaker 3: Freshman year Everyone. If you're going into 14400:10:18,147 --> 00:10:21,192high school freshman year, no matter how good you are, you're 14500:10:21,211 --> 00:10:21,952going to start at JV. 14600:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,325Speaker 2: As junior varsity. 14700:10:24,961 --> 00:10:26,806Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going tostart at JV for your freshman 14800:10:26,846 --> 00:10:29,823year. Okay, all students, I don't care how good you are, 14900:10:29,844 --> 00:10:35,243you're going to start at JV, okay. Okay, you're going to 15000:10:35,263 --> 00:10:38,649start at JV, but maybe as the year progresses, you get bumped 15100:10:38,730 --> 00:10:52,537up. If you're good enough, okay,I'm going to start at JV for 15200:10:52,557 --> 00:10:59,389the freshman year. I'm good, energy and I bring the 15300:10:59,450 --> 00:11:05,025competitiveness to the game. Okay, and I feel like not a lot 15400:11:05,105 --> 00:11:11,203of players on my team had that drive to win. It was like. It is15500:11:11,203 --> 00:11:13,203what it is if we lose, like, no, like. 15600:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,908Speaker 2: And why do you think you have that drive with that 15700:11:15,927 --> 00:11:16,649competitiveness? 15800:11:17,221 --> 00:11:22,389Speaker 3: Because I honestly feel like I get it from my 15900:11:22,429 --> 00:11:26,323grandpa and my dad to be honest,my mom too I feel like that's 16000:11:26,344 --> 00:11:29,466just my family. I mean, we, if we're going to do something, we 16100:11:29,506 --> 00:11:34,464do it well, okay, and we strive for the best. So I believe that 16200:11:34,945 --> 00:11:36,168that's a reason. 16300:11:36,830 --> 00:11:42,566Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. Have you ever? What would you 16400:11:42,625 --> 00:11:46,312say, you learned in just sticking with the COVID for it, 16500:11:46,352 --> 00:11:50,948right? What was your biggest lesson that you learned during 16600:11:50,969 --> 00:11:55,384the COVID time, during those fewyears that you, you know you 16700:11:55,404 --> 00:11:59,900couldn't go into the classroom and that sort of thing that you 16800:11:59,941 --> 00:12:03,589think will help you, you know, as you continue on your journey 16900:12:03,649 --> 00:12:04,230as an adult? 17000:12:05,740 --> 00:12:12,530Speaker 3: I feel like the lesson was if you don't work for17100:12:12,530 --> 00:12:14,899it, you won't get to where you're going to be at, for 17200:12:14,960 --> 00:12:21,432instance. Like for an example I mean I could barely do 20 17300:12:21,474 --> 00:12:24,438juggles in the backyard startingout when I first got back into 17400:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,924soccer and now I can do 100 easy. So what? What is a? 17500:12:27,965 --> 00:12:30,567Speaker 2: juggle For those of us who are not a soccer player. 17600:12:33,244 --> 00:12:36,288Speaker 3: Basically, if how youjuggle with your hands, you 17700:12:36,349 --> 00:12:38,893juggle with your feet. Oh, okay,so okay. 17800:12:39,614 --> 00:12:42,147Speaker 2: Yeah, so your skill, your physical skills, that 17900:12:42,248 --> 00:12:43,614improve significantly. 18000:12:45,846 --> 00:12:48,615Speaker 3: But also my mental skill, because, I mean, my coach18100:12:48,615 --> 00:12:53,912is a pretty wise man. He told me that it's all about the 18200:12:53,932 --> 00:12:56,600mindset and the dedication to get you to where you want to be 18300:12:56,620 --> 00:13:02,649at, and I feel like, with all the adversities that are faced 18400:13:02,788 --> 00:13:08,138and the Bumper that I've gone past, I'm fulfilling the 18500:13:08,658 --> 00:13:12,345requirements to achieve my dream, which is to put major league 18600:13:12,365 --> 00:13:15,511soccer, or typically college soccer, okay, okay. 18700:13:15,851 --> 00:13:17,321Speaker 2: And that makes sense.And one of the things that 18800:13:17,341 --> 00:13:19,947we've said repeatedly on these podcasts is that what you 18900:13:19,966 --> 00:13:23,554believe affects how you think and what you think affects how 19000:13:23,595 --> 00:13:27,504you feel and how you feel affects how you act. But I found19100:13:27,504 --> 00:13:30,890it extraordinarily interesting that it's 17, that you sort of 19200:13:30,951 --> 00:13:33,945figured that out, and I think, again, this may be something 19300:13:34,004 --> 00:13:38,461else that's exemplary of you, gen Zers. Yeah, and I think that19400:13:38,461 --> 00:13:41,899you you recognize the importance of that and by 19500:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,582starting with the most importantarea first, in other words, 19600:13:44,602 --> 00:13:48,025your mindset that a lot of theseother things blow and they blow19700:13:48,025 --> 00:13:52,809more easily or more effectivelyfor you than some of the rest 19800:13:52,850 --> 00:13:57,054of us that sort of struggle withmore and more things to be 19900:13:57,095 --> 00:14:03,061concerned about. Why is it that you like soccer? Is it unique 20000:14:03,100 --> 00:14:06,590about soccer or, as compared to other sports, for you? 20100:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,527Speaker 3: Well, I think it's can argue that I mean some of 20200:14:11,547 --> 00:14:15,980the just football, baseball et cetera, so forth. But I feel 20300:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,309like soccer is really been a bigpart of my life since I've grew20400:14:21,309 --> 00:14:28,860up on it. I've played it since I was four, four and a half. My 20500:14:28,919 --> 00:14:34,451mistake was was I took a break for about eight or eight or nine20600:14:34,451 --> 00:14:40,254years. I took a break for a long time because I mean like I 20700:14:40,274 --> 00:14:44,427kind of didn't believe myself aslittle. I was like I stopped 20800:14:44,447 --> 00:14:50,448playing at 10. So about seven, no, about, yeah, about seven 20900:14:50,469 --> 00:14:56,083years. To be honest, like when Istarted getting back into it, 21000:14:56,203 --> 00:14:59,869it was just like the drive and the love of the game again and 21100:14:59,889 --> 00:15:03,813the passion of the game that really got me to love the game 21200:15:03,854 --> 00:15:09,524again or love it more than I used to. And with all the the 21300:15:09,644 --> 00:15:14,751positiveness around me I mean mydad mentoring me every day 21400:15:15,052 --> 00:15:20,061before I joined the Barça club Imean it was just a good 21500:15:20,101 --> 00:15:28,647experience. And now, since I've gone through that and I mean I 21600:15:28,687 --> 00:15:33,429don't know, it was just a crazy experience because I mean, 21700:15:34,191 --> 00:15:40,575compared to when I was 14, barely starting now, I mean it's21800:15:40,575 --> 00:15:44,418just been a crazy, crazy life story, to be honest. 21900:15:45,361 --> 00:15:49,582Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this what would you say is your 22000:15:49,643 --> 00:15:55,333greatest talent or skill that you've developed over time? 22100:15:56,019 --> 00:16:00,062Speaker 3: I'd say two of my greatest talents and skills are 22200:16:01,924 --> 00:16:07,028being able to take things in andletting things go. To be honest22300:16:07,028 --> 00:16:16,883, from, say other people are like. Also my ability to control22400:16:16,883 --> 00:16:21,394my emotions. Okay, because whenI was little I would have 22500:16:21,495 --> 00:16:26,750angered issues, anger managementclasses and all that. To be 22600:16:26,850 --> 00:16:31,039honest, I don't think it really helped me, but I feel like since22700:16:31,039 --> 00:16:36,157COVID since I doubled it on my own and I learned to control it 22800:16:36,216 --> 00:16:42,971on my own, it was just like a way for things to just settle 22900:16:43,011 --> 00:16:50,037down and for me to calm down. Okay. But yeah, and another 23000:16:50,076 --> 00:16:54,369skill is, I mean, my soccer journey. To be honest, that's 23100:16:54,429 --> 00:16:57,621one of the things I'm most proudof, okay. 23200:16:58,592 --> 00:17:01,423Speaker 2: You know it's interesting when you said not 23300:17:01,462 --> 00:17:04,652let things bother you. I have aspart of my basic principles 23400:17:04,752 --> 00:17:09,611don't sweat the small stuff, andmost stuff is small Coming to 23500:17:09,651 --> 00:17:12,505the same conclusion that you've come to that most of the things 23600:17:12,946 --> 00:17:16,798that aggravate you or upset you or whatever are really not as 23700:17:16,837 --> 00:17:19,890big a deal as you think they areAt least not at the time and 23800:17:19,910 --> 00:17:22,797that what you'll find is you just let them go and put it in 23900:17:22,836 --> 00:17:27,442perspective and it's not that big a deal. Okay, excellent, 24000:17:31,734 --> 00:17:35,621think about it. What's a good academic subject that inspires 24100:17:35,661 --> 00:17:38,958you? You know of the subjects that you're taking, so let me 24200:17:39,038 --> 00:17:40,410ask you what is your GPA? 24300:17:41,070 --> 00:17:46,760Speaker 3: My GPA is a tool coming from my junior GPA this 24400:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,202past school year, or was it? 24500:17:48,663 --> 00:17:55,077Speaker 2: 3.8? 3.8, okay, what is a particular subject or class24600:17:55,077 --> 00:17:57,702that you've taken that really inspires you, that you really 24700:17:57,742 --> 00:17:57,962like? 24800:17:59,471 --> 00:18:02,718Speaker 3: Well, it's just kind of a class that I'm going to 24900:18:02,738 --> 00:18:07,009take, okay, all right, coming into my senior year. Okay, I'm 25000:18:07,029 --> 00:18:08,800really interested and I think it's going to change my 25100:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,357perspective on how I see things.Is AP Psychology? 25200:18:12,898 --> 00:18:15,817Speaker 2: AP Psychology. Ron, congratulations for taking an AP25300:18:15,817 --> 00:18:20,394class. That's always good in high school. I remember that. 25400:18:21,510 --> 00:18:23,938But what is it that fascinates you about psychology? 25500:18:25,211 --> 00:18:27,900Speaker 3: I want to know, or want to be able to understand, 25600:18:28,000 --> 00:18:34,115how the different parts of the human might think and what 25700:18:34,135 --> 00:18:37,039components of the brain allow usto think that way. 25800:18:37,721 --> 00:18:45,481Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, In terms of the and why. What is that 25900:18:45,521 --> 00:18:49,579fascinacy In terms of the human body and that sort of thing 26000:18:50,371 --> 00:18:50,852Overall. 26100:18:50,913 --> 00:18:54,806Speaker 3: I mean, I would want to pursue in the medical field 26200:18:54,846 --> 00:18:58,192and I would want to be some typeof doctor in the future. So I 26300:18:58,231 --> 00:19:02,382feel like AP Psychology gives methat kind of kickstart. 26400:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,737Speaker 2: So you're interested in going into medicine. Yes, oh,26500:19:05,737 --> 00:19:08,813that's always good. That's always good. We certainly like 26600:19:08,873 --> 00:19:16,214that. Yeah, always good. Anotherquestion, and I'm just randomly26700:19:16,214 --> 00:19:20,431asking these things what are you passionate about? Listen, 26800:19:20,451 --> 00:19:20,951john, what? 26900:19:22,834 --> 00:19:33,653Speaker 3: are you passionate about what bars you up? What 27000:19:34,194 --> 00:19:39,536excites you. To be honest, I feel like Bakri, yes, but also 27100:19:40,277 --> 00:19:47,777like working out by myself. Okay, explain that. I mean it's just27200:19:47,777 --> 00:19:51,023like kind of like a therapy, like going out for a run or like27300:19:51,023 --> 00:19:57,717doing something by yourself that just like like just gets 27400:19:57,757 --> 00:20:03,939you to feel like I guess gives you a dope, new rush of feeling 27500:20:04,019 --> 00:20:08,179good, like feeling refreshed. I mean, you did this by yourself. 27600:20:08,259 --> 00:20:11,153When you say you didn't want to do it and you still did it, 27700:20:12,789 --> 00:20:16,939that's also a mindset thing. That's something that I learned 27800:20:16,979 --> 00:20:19,971that even if you don't want to do it and you still do the thing27900:20:19,971 --> 00:20:22,258that you don't want to do, it will pay off again. 28000:20:22,739 --> 00:20:24,031Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, there are a lot of 28100:20:24,071 --> 00:20:27,820professional athletes talk aboutthat in terms of that mindset, 28200:20:27,882 --> 00:20:30,875even just individuals who exercise a lot, in terms of the 28300:20:30,976 --> 00:20:34,550mental health benefit of exercise. Yeah, you know, and 28400:20:34,570 --> 00:20:36,896you mentioned accomplishments, you know you don't want to do it28500:20:36,896 --> 00:20:39,553, you know, but then you do it anyway. Then, after you do it, 28600:20:39,593 --> 00:20:43,315you feel better, and those of usin the health care field we 28700:20:43,355 --> 00:20:47,750call that therapy. That, indeed,is a type of therapy and it's 28800:20:47,789 --> 00:20:52,178something worth continuing to keep us healthy, wealthy and 28900:20:52,218 --> 00:21:00,278wise, as we like to say. What would you say is your biggest 29000:21:00,458 --> 00:21:03,242strength and what would you say is your biggest weakness? 29100:21:04,529 --> 00:21:07,239Speaker 3: Oh, academically or just in general. Just in general29200:21:07,239 --> 00:21:15,352, I'd say, my biggest weakness is, I'd say, like academically 29300:21:15,412 --> 00:21:20,007is math. Okay, well, academically is math. I'd say my29400:21:20,007 --> 00:21:26,604biggest achievement is learninghow to understand math in a way29500:21:26,604 --> 00:21:30,425that it's just a formula that you need to master. Likewise, 29600:21:31,268 --> 00:21:33,813soccer is just a formula. 29700:21:33,854 --> 00:21:36,546Speaker 2: You need to master. If that makes sense, it does 29800:21:36,606 --> 00:21:39,648make sense and what I like aboutit is that you took your 29900:21:39,730 --> 00:21:44,087weakness and made it in a strength, that I would argue 30000:21:44,127 --> 00:21:47,782that if you have a weakness thatyou know of and you're able to 30100:21:47,883 --> 00:21:52,400attack that weakness and convertit or change it or modify it so30200:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,690that it is less of a weakness and more of a strength, that's a30300:21:55,690 --> 00:22:00,148huge achievement. Thank you again for listening to our very 30400:22:00,249 --> 00:22:05,526unique, healthy, wealth and Wisepodcast today. This is the 30500:22:05,566 --> 00:22:09,565first time that we've interviewed a Gen Z member and 30600:22:09,585 --> 00:22:12,611one of the things that a number of things we've learned one is 30700:22:13,132 --> 00:22:19,450that even at age 17, members of the Gen Z generation have 30800:22:19,549 --> 00:22:25,285learned how to take adversity and turn it into a strength, and30900:22:25,285 --> 00:22:29,173that's clearly something that we can all do when things happen31000:22:29,173 --> 00:22:35,915in our respective lives. Interestingly, I found that when31100:22:35,915 --> 00:22:39,705listening to someone doing COVID, particularly those in 31200:22:39,806 --> 00:22:43,295junior high school and high school we hear the downside 31300:22:43,335 --> 00:22:46,632about how it's difficult for students and how the grades have31400:22:46,632 --> 00:22:50,511dropped. It's good to remember,like Vincent, that some of 31500:22:50,551 --> 00:22:56,009these students actually did better with a more organized, a 31600:22:56,309 --> 00:23:01,598slower, a more restricted, a more controlled environment that31700:23:01,598 --> 00:23:03,789they were. They were able to take control of their 31800:23:03,849 --> 00:23:08,954circumstances, and I think it's important to understand that Gen31900:23:08,954 --> 00:23:13,467Z is different from the rest ofus, not to mention the fact of 32000:23:13,527 --> 00:23:18,496their dependence and use and integration, if you will, of 32100:23:19,376 --> 00:23:24,412technology, and that includes the artificial intelligence, 32200:23:24,551 --> 00:23:29,875chatbot technology, for it's theGen Z generation that would be 32300:23:29,914 --> 00:23:33,385the first generation, among others, to take that into our 32400:23:33,425 --> 00:23:37,894colleges and universities when they begin to enroll in the next32500:23:37,894 --> 00:23:43,051two to three years. 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