Oct. 2, 2023

Healthcare’s New Frontier: The Ascendancy of Wellness Leadership

Healthcare’s New Frontier: The Ascendancy of Wellness Leadership

Ever wondered what it truly means to be a wellness leader? What if we told you that the American Medical Association has endorsed wellness leadership strategies as a substantial part of healthcare and health education? Our latest episode provides a t...

Ever wondered what it truly means to be a wellness leader? What if we told you that the American Medical Association has endorsed wellness leadership strategies as a substantial part of healthcare and health education? Our latest episode provides a thoughtful and insightful discussion on the power of wellness and leadership, their intersection, and the critical role they play in our lives. We shed light on the essence of wellness, its different types, and the significant benefits it brings to the table. But that's not all - we also delve into the realm of leadership, exploring the skills required to influence and empower others successfully.

In the latter part of our chat, we examine the importance of teamwork in wellness leadership, emphasizing how understanding individual needs and motivations can pave the way to excellence. Here's where it gets even more interesting - we discuss how wellness leadership strategies can be effectively applied in the response to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. We unpack the challenges of managing a global health crisis and delve into the important role of promoting wellness in the workplace and home during these trying times. Whether you're a healthcare professional, a wellness enthusiast, or simply interested in leadership and personal development, this episode is set to offer a treasure trove of insights. Tune in, and let's uncover the true meaning of wellness leadership together!

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The Host, Dr. William Choctaw; MD, JD, is a healthcare leadership expert, possessing a Medical Doctorate from the Yale University School of Medicine, and a Jurist Doctorate from Western University. Over a span of 50 years practicing medicine, he has served as Chief of Staff, Chief of Surgery, and as a member of the medical executive committee at Citrus Valley Medical Center over a 10 year period. Also, while practicing at Citrus Valley Medical Center, he served as Chief Transformation Officer, (developed a Robust Process Improvement/Lean Six Sigma program). Dr. Choctaw lectures nationally and internationally on medical leadership issues for hospital staffs, executives, and managers. He served as a Physician Surveyor on the Joint Commission. He's the author of 2 books, "Medical Malpractice: A Physician's Guide to the Law" and "Transforming the Patient Experience: A New Paradigm for Hospital and Physician Leadership, published by the Springer Publishing Co. He’s the President of Choctaw Medical Group, Inc., a clinical practice and medical legal consulting firm for medical staff executives, physician leaders, and hospitals.

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100:00:00,821 --> 00:00:03,490Speaker 1: Coming up on this episode of the HWWP. 200:00:05,083 --> 00:00:07,168Speaker 2: We have this thing inhealthcare, in medicine, called300:00:07,168 --> 00:00:10,903the Koch Postulates, that someone needs to be able to take400:00:10,903 --> 00:00:16,400my process that I say I createdthat will make it rain, and 500:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,077they need to be able to produce my process independent of me and600:00:21,077 --> 00:00:24,588get the same result. That's just one part of that approach. 700:00:25,521 --> 00:00:28,753My point is very simple. It's more than just me giving an 800:00:28,792 --> 00:00:32,124opinion, more than just me beinga nice person that you got to 900:00:32,145 --> 00:00:32,606prove it. 1000:00:34,182 --> 00:00:35,685Speaker 1: Welcome to the Healthy, wealthy and Wise 1100:00:35,725 --> 00:00:40,143podcast with Dr William T Choctaw, mdjd, where the doctor 1200:00:40,162 --> 00:00:43,390helps you unlock your full potential by equipping you with 1300:00:43,530 --> 00:00:47,000tools and knowledge in the areasof health, wealth and wisdom 1400:00:47,701 --> 00:00:51,454Anchored in his experience as a business executive, a physician 1500:00:51,475 --> 00:00:55,048and surveyor for the Joint Commission, a former mayor and 1600:00:55,189 --> 00:00:59,185over 50 years of experience as ageneral surgeon. You've got 1700:00:59,246 --> 00:01:03,463questions, he's got answers, so let's get started. Here's Dr 1800:01:03,503 --> 00:01:06,090William T Choctaw, mdjd. 1900:01:07,620 --> 00:01:11,849Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Dr William T Choctaw. Welcome to 2000:01:11,968 --> 00:01:16,602our Healthy, wealthy and Wise podcast. Each month, we strive 2100:01:16,641 --> 00:01:19,724to provide you, our listeners, with mental, physical and 2200:01:19,786 --> 00:01:24,370spiritual strength by giving actionable advice, tips, 2300:01:24,631 --> 00:01:30,078guidance and information to helpyou achieve your own personal, 2400:01:30,158 --> 00:01:34,602professional and spiritual goals. We recognize the health of the2500:01:34,602 --> 00:01:40,209mind, body and spirit are paramount as a single and simple2600:01:40,209 --> 00:01:44,676unit that can provide a cumulative strength greater than2700:01:44,676 --> 00:01:47,959the individual parts to strengthen the whole person. 2800:01:49,100 --> 00:01:52,584This product is part of our Leadership Masterclass series 2900:01:53,186 --> 00:01:57,570based on my 50 years of medical experience 50 plus years of 3000:01:57,611 --> 00:02:03,022medical experience and 75 years of life experience. So sit back 3100:02:03,563 --> 00:02:10,145and enjoy with us. Today, we're going to talk about wellness 3200:02:10,405 --> 00:02:15,251leadership strategies, why and why we need them. That's 3300:02:15,431 --> 00:02:21,020wellness leadership strategies and why we need them. As always,3400:02:21,020 --> 00:02:25,007I'd like to start off with my beliefs. I believe life is about3500:02:25,007 --> 00:02:29,573being of service to others. I believe knowledge is power. I 3600:02:29,612 --> 00:02:33,342believe leaders can change the world. I also like to give you 3700:02:33,361 --> 00:02:35,765an outline to give you an idea about what we're going to talk 3800:02:35,786 --> 00:02:39,612about today and also specifically to give you an idea3900:02:39,612 --> 00:02:42,944of when we're just about done. I certainly recognize that 4000:02:42,965 --> 00:02:47,264you're very busy people and you have a lot on your plate and we 4100:02:47,283 --> 00:02:52,838appreciate you stopping by to visit with us for a brief period4200:02:52,838 --> 00:02:55,563of time. We're going to talk about the American Medical 4300:02:55,604 --> 00:02:58,748Association, which is the premier organization in this 4400:02:58,829 --> 00:03:03,937country for healthcare and physician education and 4500:03:04,057 --> 00:03:07,587certification. We're going to discuss the definition of 4600:03:07,627 --> 00:03:10,168wellness. We always like to start off with definitions. 4700:03:10,640 --> 00:03:14,305We're going to go over the typesof wellness, the benefit of 4800:03:14,365 --> 00:03:21,144wellness and why wellness is finally taking its role in the 4900:03:21,183 --> 00:03:26,622position of health care and health education. The American 5000:03:26,663 --> 00:03:32,105Medical Association decided thisyear in 2023, to endorse the 5100:03:32,247 --> 00:03:37,486wellness leadership concept. To endorse the wellness leadership 5200:03:37,526 --> 00:03:41,580concept. If you're asking yourself, but what is that 5300:03:41,641 --> 00:03:46,222different from them endorse and leadership in general? I would 5400:03:46,262 --> 00:03:52,887surmise that it involves the AMAtaking a more my word holistic 5500:03:53,007 --> 00:03:56,566view of health care. Now, the word holistic has been around 5600:03:56,586 --> 00:04:02,640for a long time, but I think, inessence, what it says is we 5700:04:02,661 --> 00:04:06,442don't just think about health care as the body, we don't just 5800:04:06,481 --> 00:04:11,163think about health care as care of the body. But I think, as 5900:04:11,243 --> 00:04:15,467time has gone on and this, indeed, is representative of my 6000:04:15,527 --> 00:04:19,946growth in health care that I have, and I think the whole 6100:04:19,987 --> 00:04:23,901medical association, have developed an appreciation for 6200:04:24,262 --> 00:04:32,014the importance and the significance of mind and spirit,6300:04:32,014 --> 00:04:38,012if you will, as important as the body in terms of the whole 6400:04:38,112 --> 00:04:42,264being, if you will, the whole being growing and developing and6500:04:42,264 --> 00:04:47,161becoming healthier. So when youhear wellness, think in terms 6600:04:47,302 --> 00:04:53,483of the totality of body, mind and spirit. Not only are these 6700:04:53,584 --> 00:04:59,141three areas side by side, but they are integrated, so think of6800:04:59,141 --> 00:05:03,841it as a continuous movement between these three entities to 6900:05:03,901 --> 00:05:08,944create, ultimately, the whole you. That's really what we're 7000:05:08,964 --> 00:05:11,822concerned about, what we're interested in. We're going to 7100:05:11,862 --> 00:05:14,543talk about it from a leadership perspective. But what does that 7200:05:14,603 --> 00:05:19,271mean? That basically means that this is a leadership masterclass7300:05:19,271 --> 00:05:23,942and we leaders are basically committed to helping others, and7400:05:23,942 --> 00:05:26,403you can do that on multiple levels and you can do that any 7500:05:26,442 --> 00:05:31,367way you like or choose, but our goal is the other person, not 7600:05:31,449 --> 00:05:36,987just us, but it's us, so that wecan then give back or give to 7700:05:37,569 --> 00:05:43,704someone else. So what is leadership? I would one define 7800:05:44,047 --> 00:05:49,730leadership. My simple definitionof leadership is helping others7900:05:49,730 --> 00:05:52,764. Now, that may sound a little strange, because usually we 8000:05:52,826 --> 00:05:55,401think of leaders as the people out front and the people who 8100:05:55,422 --> 00:05:59,125make the speeches and the this and the that. I look at it very,8200:05:59,125 --> 00:06:02,584very basically. I really strongly believe that the 8300:06:02,725 --> 00:06:08,002essence of life is contributing to others. Now, you can do that 8400:06:08,064 --> 00:06:10,685in many different ways, that there is no perfect way or 8500:06:10,764 --> 00:06:14,747specific way to do it. But it should be about what you give 8600:06:15,127 --> 00:06:19,125than about what you get. And parenthetically or ironically, 8700:06:19,526 --> 00:06:23,266if you give something to others,you will automatically receive 8800:06:23,346 --> 00:06:27,264something. That's the beauty of it. So leadership is not someone8900:06:27,264 --> 00:06:31,644who's telling people what to do. It is someone who decides that9000:06:31,644 --> 00:06:36,783he or she is willing to help somebody else, and by helping 9100:06:36,843 --> 00:06:41,401that other person, you then receive yourself. And also 9200:06:41,884 --> 00:06:45,483parenthetically, by helping thatother person, you then become a9300:06:45,483 --> 00:06:50,007leader. Think about that by helping someone else, you then 9400:06:50,226 --> 00:06:55,487become a leader. So leadership another way of looking at it is 9500:06:55,528 --> 00:07:02,444the capacity to translate visioninto reality. The capacity to 9600:07:02,504 --> 00:07:08,125translate vision into reality. Now, whether one is born a 9700:07:08,204 --> 00:07:11,764leader or you become a leader over time, I honestly do not 9800:07:11,865 --> 00:07:16,161know, but I do know the leadership does exist. I do know9900:07:16,161 --> 00:07:20,952the leadership is requisite forus to go to those next levels. 10000:07:21,100 --> 00:07:25,610I do know that leadership is necessary for us to advance and 10100:07:25,711 --> 00:07:30,290grow and I do know that, should you make that decision in your 10200:07:30,370 --> 00:07:36,172life, your world will remarkablyimprove on multiple levels. 10300:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,161What are some of the required skills of leaders, at least as 10400:07:39,242 --> 00:07:43,449we think of them. Leaders tend to be people who empower others,10500:07:43,449 --> 00:07:47,449and that empowerment could be what they say, it could be what 10600:07:47,509 --> 00:07:51,507they do, or I would argue it's probably a combination of both, 10700:07:51,648 --> 00:07:54,884especially what they do, becauseI honestly believe that people 10800:07:54,963 --> 00:08:00,382look at what you do more than listen to what you say. They 10900:08:00,442 --> 00:08:04,665inspire people Think about Martin Luther King, think about 11000:08:06,468 --> 00:08:11,165Gandhi, think about Nelson Mandela. They inspire people. 11100:08:11,987 --> 00:08:16,788They lead change. I believe thatchange is always with us. The 11200:08:16,827 --> 00:08:21,464only constant in life is change,and so it's important not to be11300:08:21,464 --> 00:08:24,593depressed and not to get upset.Whenever something changes, 11400:08:25,321 --> 00:08:30,524it's to anticipate it, to prepare for it, and the ultimate11500:08:30,524 --> 00:08:34,682part of dealing with change is adaptability. If you determine 11600:08:34,743 --> 00:08:40,142or you figure out for you what adaptability is, then you will 11700:08:40,182 --> 00:08:44,421survive, and not only will you survive, you will thrive. So 11800:08:44,500 --> 00:08:49,229change is always with us and leadership are individuals or it11900:08:49,229 --> 00:08:54,303is a process that leads the change, that leads the change 12000:08:54,605 --> 00:08:58,383through its ability to adapt to the change. Another required 12100:08:58,442 --> 00:09:02,441skill of leadership or leaders is a shared vision. You think 12200:09:02,500 --> 00:09:06,830about what needs to be done, youthink about what is best for 12300:09:07,169 --> 00:09:12,004others, including yourself, and then you set out to reach that 12400:09:12,085 --> 00:09:15,711vision or to achieve that goal or to get to the top of that 12500:09:15,792 --> 00:09:19,485mountain. And then part of the thing about leadership is you 12600:09:19,504 --> 00:09:23,123don't wait for someone else to do it. You see what needs to be 12700:09:23,182 --> 00:09:28,740done and if it meets your criteria, you move forward. I 12800:09:28,780 --> 00:09:34,568have learned many lessons over my life over my 75 plus years 12900:09:35,671 --> 00:09:39,461and over my 50 plus years as a physician and one of the, I 13000:09:39,481 --> 00:09:42,285think, most important lessons I learned, as a physician 13100:09:42,767 --> 00:09:50,100particularly, was what the essence of life is all about, 13200:09:50,886 --> 00:09:56,128what's most important in life. Now I have and as many, if not 13300:09:56,227 --> 00:09:59,701most, individuals always want tostrive for the best. That was 13400:10:00,221 --> 00:10:04,967sort of ingrained in me very, very early on from my mother who13500:10:04,967 --> 00:10:08,812, as I mentioned in previous podcasts, was responsible for me13600:10:08,812 --> 00:10:14,265being in medical school, going to medical school, and when I 13700:10:14,426 --> 00:10:20,846arrived at Yale Medical School and finished, I basically felt 13800:10:21,167 --> 00:10:24,523that I was equipped to deal withanything. Obviously, it's an 13900:10:24,604 --> 00:10:29,845excellent school. They taught mewell and I had that level of 14000:10:29,926 --> 00:10:33,631confidence that I could do anything, that there were no 14100:10:33,672 --> 00:10:37,884limits on me. But some of the things that I learned along the 14200:10:37,943 --> 00:10:44,594way and I freely pass this on toyou you can be good by yourself14300:10:44,594 --> 00:10:49,024. I believe you can be good by yourself. If you work hard and 14400:10:49,065 --> 00:10:52,509you're well trained, or a combination of the two, you can 14500:10:52,548 --> 00:10:58,101achieve certain things and do a good job if you will. So you can14600:10:58,101 --> 00:11:03,528do good by yourself, but excellence comes from a team. 14700:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,375Let me say that again you can begood by yourself, but 14800:11:08,697 --> 00:11:14,038excellence comes from a team. I'm a general surgeon. When I 14900:11:14,077 --> 00:11:17,778finished medical school as a general surgeon, I was very, 15000:11:17,798 --> 00:11:20,817very confident that I can go in and do the operation that I 15100:11:20,857 --> 00:11:25,861needed to do in my area or care for a patient in my area and do 15200:11:25,902 --> 00:11:32,807a good job. But what I also learned? That singularity, or 15300:11:32,875 --> 00:11:37,259the individual, whoever he or she may be, has an inherent 15400:11:37,419 --> 00:11:42,980limitation. Why? Because, as an individual, I am uniquely me. 15500:11:43,615 --> 00:11:46,437Now, I'm not saying that's a badthing, but I'm saying that 15600:11:46,457 --> 00:11:49,481there's a limitation with it andwe all have it. We all have it.15700:11:49,481 --> 00:11:54,201So what's the point I'm trying to make? My point is even though15800:11:54,201 --> 00:11:59,104I can be good by myself, excellence comes from a team. 15900:11:59,375 --> 00:12:03,203Let me repeat that, even though I can be good by myself, 16000:12:03,696 --> 00:12:08,022excellence comes from a team. I can be a good surgeon or a good 16100:12:08,101 --> 00:12:13,322physician, arguably by myself, but if I want to be an excellent16200:12:13,322 --> 00:12:18,177surgeon or an excellent physician. I need a team. What 16300:12:18,256 --> 00:12:22,457I've learned, then, is that we were designed, I believe, as 16400:12:22,518 --> 00:12:29,184humans, to work as teams. If youcan accept that concept and 16500:12:29,264 --> 00:12:35,058adopt and embrace and digest that concept, your life will be 16600:12:35,139 --> 00:12:38,162remarkable and better, because it's really not all about you, 16700:12:38,596 --> 00:12:44,678it's about the team. Think aboutit. Think about it. Yes, 16800:12:46,022 --> 00:12:49,457patrick Mahon is an excellent football player quarterback 16900:12:49,919 --> 00:12:54,678excellent but he cannot win a single game without the other 1017000:12:54,678 --> 00:13:01,845men on his football team. Michael Jordan is an excellent 17100:13:02,105 --> 00:13:06,083basketball player, but he cannotwin a single game without a 17200:13:06,144 --> 00:13:10,335team. I think those examples arebefore us throughout life, and 17300:13:10,375 --> 00:13:14,721sometimes we chose to notice them and sometimes we chose to 17400:13:14,802 --> 00:13:17,823ignore them. But what I have learned is that if you want 17500:13:17,995 --> 00:13:22,855excellence, then you need a team. Part of your achievement, a 17600:13:22,936 --> 00:13:28,035part of your journey if you willgetting to that level of 17700:13:28,236 --> 00:13:34,341excellence is understanding how you function within a team or 17800:13:34,381 --> 00:13:37,504with a team. Does not matter what position you have in that 17900:13:37,544 --> 00:13:41,330team, but you need a team. I used to say many times I do not 18000:13:41,450 --> 00:13:46,254want a good doctor to take care of my wife and my kids and my 18100:13:46,315 --> 00:13:50,366family or myself. I want an excellent doctor. I do not want 18200:13:50,407 --> 00:13:53,854a good nurse, I want an excellent nurse. I do not want a18300:13:53,854 --> 00:13:57,662good hospital, I want an excellent hospital. So my point 18400:13:57,902 --> 00:14:02,528is that if you want to get to that level of excellence that 18500:14:02,628 --> 00:14:06,874you need, it is important to understand the value, if you 18600:14:06,933 --> 00:14:11,744will, of a team and, more importantly, it is important for18700:14:11,744 --> 00:14:16,311you to understand how you can work with a team and how that 18800:14:16,410 --> 00:14:20,846helps you achieve your goals, whatever those are. So keep that18900:14:20,846 --> 00:14:25,163in mind. Excellence comes from a team. Now, when we look at 19000:14:25,224 --> 00:14:28,469wellness again and we are still sort of on the defined part of 19100:14:28,528 --> 00:14:32,640wellness we are talking about body, mind and spirit. Body, 19200:14:33,142 --> 00:14:38,051mind and spirit. Our bodies are obvious, we can stand in the 19300:14:38,091 --> 00:14:40,980mirror and we can look at our bodies. The mind is a little 19400:14:41,081 --> 00:14:45,125less obvious because the mind issort of inside of the body and 19500:14:45,187 --> 00:14:50,933we have to be able to appreciatethe specifics of the mind and 19600:14:50,994 --> 00:14:55,325what it works and how it works and in terms of how we think 19700:14:55,384 --> 00:14:58,831about ourselves and about our surroundings. And the spirit is 19800:14:58,892 --> 00:15:04,606even more subtle. The spirit is that part that we conceive in 19900:15:04,706 --> 00:15:10,941our minds and understand how it relates to us. But the part I am20000:15:10,941 --> 00:15:13,686very simply trying to make is that all three are our 20100:15:13,745 --> 00:15:19,620requirement for us to thrive andfor us to be well, and we want 20200:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,470to always be well. We want to bewell ourselves so that we can 20300:15:24,530 --> 00:15:30,109then help others to be well. So let's go a little deeper into 20400:15:30,168 --> 00:15:35,086wellness. Wellness refers to a state of being in good health, 20500:15:35,226 --> 00:15:39,293both physically and mentally. Itis a holistic approach to 20600:15:39,394 --> 00:15:46,668health. And again, that word holistic many people used to be 20700:15:46,708 --> 00:15:49,852disturbed by that word. I am notand I hope you are not either, 20800:15:49,873 --> 00:15:52,635but you can substitute a different word as you choose. 20900:15:53,041 --> 00:15:56,927But basically it means looking at the total being or the total 21000:15:57,749 --> 00:16:02,854essence, the total entity, if you will, and that's really body21100:16:02,854 --> 00:16:07,365, mind and spirit. But it's alsotaken that body, mind and 21200:16:07,384 --> 00:16:10,469spirit approach to health care, because if you take that 21300:16:10,509 --> 00:16:14,092approach to health care then youwill be more successful in 21400:16:14,153 --> 00:16:17,738achieving those levels of excellence that we've talked 21500:16:17,778 --> 00:16:21,283about before. When I was workingwith the John Commission and we21600:16:21,283 --> 00:16:24,729were going to a hospital, to a hospital survey, I as a 21700:16:24,788 --> 00:16:29,495physician would primarily evaluate the physician areas, 21800:16:29,576 --> 00:16:35,364particularly surgery and surgeryrelated areas, and the whole 21900:16:35,443 --> 00:16:41,633point is we look at the body, mind and spirit approach. We may22000:16:41,633 --> 00:16:44,977not call it that, but we look at the results, which includes 22100:16:45,038 --> 00:16:51,668that total approach. Wellness includes nutrition, exercise, 22200:16:51,749 --> 00:16:55,014stress management and mental health. To look at it on another22300:16:55,014 --> 00:17:00,751level Nutrition, exercise, stress management and mental 22400:17:00,831 --> 00:17:06,346health Wellness. So when I say wellness, I'm talking about 22500:17:06,406 --> 00:17:12,836those particular four areas nutrition, exercise, stress 22600:17:12,938 --> 00:17:17,375management and mental health. Wellness leadership it's a 22700:17:17,415 --> 00:17:21,766concept that emphasizes the importance of promoting wellness22800:17:21,766 --> 00:17:26,060in the workplace. Let me say that again wellness leadership 22900:17:26,141 --> 00:17:30,028this is our topic. It's a concept that talks about 23000:17:30,174 --> 00:17:32,642emphasizing the importance of promoting wellness in the 23100:17:32,682 --> 00:17:37,681workplace. We talked earlier about body, mind and spirit and 23200:17:37,721 --> 00:17:41,013how that's important in terms ofas we look at ourselves. We 23300:17:41,034 --> 00:17:44,564then transitioned to the importance of the individual 23400:17:45,065 --> 00:17:50,617working with a collective group of individuals, ie what I call a23500:17:50,617 --> 00:17:56,768team. We specifically said thatif we want excellence in 23600:17:56,807 --> 00:18:00,604whatever our pursuit is, it's important that we work with that23700:18:00,604 --> 00:18:05,397team effectively. Now what we're saying is, when we think 23800:18:05,498 --> 00:18:09,907of wellness leadership, we want you to think of it in the 23900:18:09,988 --> 00:18:16,641context of promoting wellness inthe workplace and also 24000:18:16,861 --> 00:18:22,836promoting wellness at home. Wellness, wellness wellness body24100:18:22,836 --> 00:18:27,251, mind and spirit. As you think about your body, mind and spirit24200:18:27,251 --> 00:18:31,003and what your needs are and what motivates you and what gets24300:18:31,003 --> 00:18:34,114you in a good place. Think about that in terms of your 24400:18:34,134 --> 00:18:38,166spouse. Think about that in terms of your children and 24500:18:38,247 --> 00:18:41,477understand that at the differentages of your children, their 24600:18:41,538 --> 00:18:45,830needs and their understandings will vary as you're interacting 24700:18:45,871 --> 00:18:51,464with them as a parent or as a friend or as a partner, however 24800:18:51,526 --> 00:18:55,414you do it, whatever the circumstances are, think about 24900:18:55,434 --> 00:18:59,808it in terms of body, mind and spirit. Body, mind and spirit 25000:19:00,069 --> 00:19:03,439that when your son or daughter is playing soccer or basketball 25100:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,885or whatever sport they're playing, and you're on the 25200:19:06,925 --> 00:19:11,265sideline and you're supporting them, think about body, mind and25300:19:11,265 --> 00:19:14,615spirit, and then you'll be muchmore effective in terms of what25400:19:14,615 --> 00:19:18,087you're doing. So let's take a look at well-being and 25500:19:18,268 --> 00:19:21,938well-being leadership and apply it to a specific area. Let's 25600:19:22,019 --> 00:19:26,307apply well-being leadership to strategies for responding to 25700:19:26,367 --> 00:19:31,444COVID. So what would that look like or why would it be 25800:19:31,525 --> 00:19:37,761different? Now, clearly, all of us have developed strategies to 25900:19:38,182 --> 00:19:41,070respond to COVID because we've all had to deal with this, a 26000:19:41,111 --> 00:19:45,019worldwide pandemic. We live in the world. Therefore, we've had 26100:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,967to deal with it some way. Some of us have probably done this 26200:19:51,174 --> 00:19:55,443easily, some more difficult, Some have had more challenges 26300:19:55,523 --> 00:19:59,499with it. It is a serious problem. It is a problem that has not 26400:19:59,558 --> 00:20:02,686gone away and probably will not go away. 26500:20:03,755 --> 00:20:05,680Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this episode of the26600:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,994Healthy, wealthy and Wise podcast with Dr William T 26700:20:09,056 --> 00:20:13,765Choctaw, mdjd. Be sure to check out other great episodes 26800:20:13,805 --> 00:20:20,606covering areas of health, wealthand wisdom at THWPcom and, 26900:20:20,666 --> 00:20:23,773while you're there, be sure to check out the books, blogs and 27000:20:23,894 --> 00:20:26,921other literature in your preferred format. And don't 27100:20:26,961 --> 00:20:31,037forget to leave a review, subscribe, share and support the27200:20:31,037 --> 00:20:37,113podcast that's at THWPcom. You've been listening to the 27300:20:37,193 --> 00:20:40,280Healthy, wealthy and Wise podcast with Dr William T 27400:20:40,342 --> 00:20:42,487Choctaw, mdjd.